The most important metric when judging a player's career ?

[Freomaniac]

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[Cdog71]

Bartel was an excellent player and stood up heaps when we needed it but he’s realistically behind Ablett Jr, Selwood, Enright, Scarlett and probably Johnson and Hawkins across the successful period

If you say so
Though I think the difference between Bartlel and any of those players, and correct me if I’m wrong, Bartel won AA selection in different positions.
He certainly played significant roles in the three main areas of the ground over his career not just rolling in and out.
Only one other player, Simon Black has
300 games
Norm Smith
Brownlow

Probably joined by Martin if he stays healthy for this season and next.
Pretty exceptional career by Bartel.

 

[PhatBoy]

If you say so
Though I think the difference between Bartlel and any of those players, and correct me if I’m wrong, Bartel won AA selection in different positions.
He certainly played significant roles in the three main areas of the ground over his career not just rolling in and out.
Only one other player, Simon Black has
300 games
Norm Smith
Brownlow

Probably joined by Martin if he stays healthy for this season and next.
Pretty exceptional career by Bartel.

He did have an exceptional career but he didn’t get picked in the AA team from multiple positions. He was picked in 07-08 as a traditional on-baller and that was it

 

[Hoops]

Bartel was an excellent player and stood up heaps when we needed it but he’s realistically behind Ablett Jr, Selwood, Enright, Scarlett and probably Johnson and Hawkins across the successful period

I would place him in front of Enright and the equal of Johnson

 

[GastevsBeard]

Bartel > Selwood

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Bartel > Selwood

Interesting post.. but i tend to agree. Selwood was a good solid player, probably ends up ahead of Cotchin but behind Pendlebury in terms of career rankings. Bartel was an exceptional midfielder and even though a Bromlow medallist & Norm Smith Medalist I feel is still underrated, only has 2 All Australians but was in an era that had GAJ, Judd, Cousins, Mitchell, Swan, Pendlebury, Hodge so opportunities are few and far between.

 

[GastevsBeard]

Interesting post.. but i tend to agree. Selwood was a good solid player, probably ends up ahead of Cotchin but behind Pendlebury in terms of career rankings. Bartel was an exceptional midfielder and even though a Bromlow medallist & Norm Smith Medalist I feel is still underrated, only has 2 All Australians but was in an era that had GAJ, Judd, Cousins, Mitchell, Swan, Pendlebury, Hodge so opportunities are few and far between.

He was a very versatile footballer, ice man in the clinch & would occasionally explode with all-time performances

That he is only a 2 x AA speaks volumes to how much of a useless metric it is

 

[Pistol Night]

Bartel > Selwood

On wet days Jimmy was on a different level. Ultimate wet tracker

 

[PhatBoy]

I would place him in front of Enright and the equal of Johnson

I actually think Johnson is the player that gets most overlooked from that era. Incredible numbers and I think he suffers from the fact that he had such a mercurial reputation

 

[Pistol Night]

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I actually think Johnson is the player that gets most overlooked from that era. Incredible numbers and I think he suffers from the fact that he had such a mercurial reputation

Yeah we really dodged a bullet with that failed medical.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Selwood has been a great player for Geelong and a very good servant of the club, but he seems to of become twice as good since he retired?

 

[Fadge]

Selwood has been a great player for Geelong and a very good servant of the club, but he seems to of become twice as good since he retired?

To the contrary, people have short memories with the tail end of Selwood's career fresh in their minds.

He was consistently in the top 5 to 10 players in the competition for the better part of a decade, suggest bookended by his first and last All-Australians in 2009 and 2017 respectively.

Add to that his leadership and he's actually in that mix of players that sit above the 'standard' AFL Hall of Famer's but just a notch below Legend status.

 

[Sttew]

Selwood has been a great player for Geelong and a very good servant of the club, but he seems to of become twice as good since he retired?

Does the following suggest a player who has become twice as good since he retired?

• 4× AFL premiership player: (2007, 2009, 2011, 2022)
• AFL premiership captain: (2022)
• 6× All-Australian team: (2009, 2010, 2013(c), 2014(c), 2016(c), 2017)
• 4× AFLPA Robert Rose Most Courageous Player Award: (2009, 2012, 2013, 2014)
• 3× Carji Greeves Medal: (2010, 2013, 2014)
• Geelong captain: (2012–2022)
• AFLPA best captain award: (2013)
• Herald Sun Player of the Year: (2014)
• Ron Evans Medal: (2007)
• AFLPA best first year player award: (2007)
• AFLCA best young player award: (2008)
• Pre-season premiership player: (2009)
• Michael Tuck Medal: (2009)
• Australian IRS captain: (2014)
• Geelong club record for games played (355 games)
• Most games played as an AFL captain (245 games)
• Most wins as an AFL captain (160 wins)
• Jim Stynes Community Leadership Award (2022)
• Most finals ever played (40)