Play Nice The NM Devil's Chessboard Thread - Part II

[Del191229]

The point about the hostages is telling.

 

[Del191229]

 

[Liam Boy]

 

[Chadwiko]

Both of these things can be simultaneously true;

1) Israel is committing a genocide against Palestine
2) Yahya Sinwar, the butcher of Khan Younis, was an evil terrorist and it's good that he's dead

People in this thread seemingly lionising him is astounding.

 

[Liam Boy]

Both of these things can be simultaneously true;

1) Israel is committing a genocide against Palestine
2) Yahya Sinwar, the butcher of Khan Younis, was an evil terrorist and it's good that he's dead

People in this thread seemingly lionising him is astounding.

You should quote something and respond to it directly instead of making outlandish statements about what "people in this thread" think

 

[Del191229]

Military leaking this completely undermines Bibi, and makes the point that the war in unwinnable.

 

[Del191229]

Both of these things can be simultaneously true;

Many more things can be true at the samer time.

1) Israel is committing a genocide against Palestine

Yes.

2) Yahya Sinwar, the butcher of Khan Younis, was an evil terrorist and it's good that he's dead

Hmmm, I'm not sure resisting occupation is by definition evil is it?

Was he a terrorist? One man's freedom fighter is a another man's terrorist etc.

Certainly to Israelis and those who buy unconditionally into a US-centric worldview he was a "terrorist".

My main issue with him is not his fighting against Israel, or even Oct 7, but his being a Sunni militant.

Hamas allied with the Syrian jihadist scum last decade, and they certainly aren't my cup of tea in any way.

But he was also a brilliant guerrilla commander who led one of the all time attacks by an occupied people against their brutal oppressor.

And he died like a soldier too, he didn't scurry off to Qatar etc.

People in this thread seemingly lionising him is astounding.

"Seemingly" is code for you have decided people are?

People are going to have different opinions to you on this, that's OK, you don't need to shout them down or into submission.

 

[Del191229]

You should quote something and respond to it directly instead of making outlandish statements about what "people in this thread" think

Welcome to the average Friday on this thread.

This week - as usual - Chad decides everyone else is wrong about something and chaos ensues!

 

[giantroo]

 

[Val Keating]

Both of these things can be simultaneously true;

1) Israel is committing a genocide against Palestine
2) Yahya Sinwar, the butcher of Khan Younis, was an evil terrorist and it's good that he's dead

People in this thread seemingly lionising him is astounding.

Agree, but with what Israel has done will only increase the number of boys wanting to grow up and do what he did.

 

[Del191229]

Agree, but with what Israel has done will only increase the number of boys wanting to grow up and do what he did.

So to those kids he wasn't a terrorist but a freedom fighter.

He's only a terrorist is you situate you worldview as opposed to the Palestinian struggle against occupation and genocide imo.

 

[Del191229]

It's funny how everyone who opposes Israel is a "terrorist".

It's utterly ludicrous to assert that Israel is committing genocide but then label any armed opposition to the genocide as "terrorism".

 

[Del191229]

 

[Chadwiko]

It's funny how everyone who opposes Israel is a "terrorist".

No. Terrorists are terrorists.

Sinwar didn't get the 'butcher of khan younis' moniker for killing Jews. He got it for killing Palestinians.

Your overly childish world views and the first-year uni student anarchist "every terrorist is just another man's freedom fighter" philosophy is tiresome, dude.

You don't come across as a worldly intellectual when you try and make excuses for someone like Yahya ****in Sinwar.

 

[Del191229]

 

[Chadwiko]

Is that direct enough Liam Boy?

 

[Del191229]

No. Terrorists are terrorists.

Sinwar didn't get the 'butcher of khan younis' moniker for killing Jews. He got it for killing Palestinians.

Your overly childish world views and the first-year uni student anarchist "every terrorist is just another man's freedom fighter" philosophy is tiresome, dude.

You don't come across as a worldly intellectual when you try and make excuses for someone like Yahya ****in Sinwar.

Straight to the personal attacks.

Saying "terrorists are terrorists" then accusing others of "childish world-views" is five star content btw.

At risk of being told how your other friends who are really cool - they go to another school though, we won't know them - read this thread and think im a big stupid head etc etc, I'll continue.

What is, in your opinion LEGITIMATE resistance to the ongoing Israeli genocide if Hezbollah and Hamas are just "terrorists"?

 

[Del191229]

Is that direct enough Liam Boy?

No need to pick fights here with others, you have absorbed way too much US culture.

That reflexive aggression might play in the brutal violent society you admire so much, but it's not cool here.

As I said before, people will have different views to you, no need at shout them.

Liam's a good posted who has made valuable contributions, you don't have to go spray your piss in his leg.

 

[Chadwiko]

No need to pick fights here with others, you have absorbed way too much US culture.

You should practice what you preach.

Welcome to the average Friday on this thread.

This week - as usual - Chad decides everyone else is wrong about something and chaos ensues!

 

[Chadwiko]

Straight to the personal attacks.

The absolute irony.

I'm not interested in playing your games.

 

[Liam Boy]

No. Terrorists are terrorists.

Sinwar didn't get the 'butcher of khan younis' moniker for killing Jews. He got it for killing Palestinians.

Your overly childish world views and the first-year uni student anarchist "every terrorist is just another man's freedom fighter" philosophy is tiresome, dude.

You don't come across as a worldly intellectual when you try and make excuses for someone like Yahya ****in Sinwar.

That wasn't his nickname in Gaza, it's purely an Israeli/western media invention. If all he'd done was kill 12 Palestinians Israel probably would've given him a medal and named an illegal settlement after him.

 

[ferball]

No. Terrorists are terrorists.

Sinwar didn't get the 'butcher of khan younis' moniker for killing Jews. He got it for killing Palestinians.

Your overly childish world views and the first-year uni student anarchist "every terrorist is just another man's freedom fighter" philosophy is tiresome, dude.

You don't come across as a worldly intellectual when you try and make excuses for someone like Yahya ****in Sinwar.

You've actually misquoted the lyrics to a really good song there.

Sinwar was just like every other terrorist/freedom fighter, union, gang leader etc during hard times. They maintain discipline thru violence. Its why people kill informants and so many Nazi collaborators in Europe were tortured and killed as soon as the opportunity arose.

 

[Del191229]

That wasn't his nickname in Gaza, it's purely an Israeli/western media invention. If all he'd done was kill 12 Palestinians Israel probably would've given him a medal and named an illegal settlement after him.

It is also worth recalling how much Israel sponsored Hamas' rise as part of a divide and rule strategy.

 

[Del191229]

You should practice what you preach.

You'd already waddled into the thread in your fancy new Washington Racists hat then, shouting about terrorists, your Toby Keith entrance music blaring.

Again, what IS legitimate resistance to Israeli genocide if Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists?

 

[Del191229]

You've actually misquoted the lyrics to a really good song there.

Sinwar was just like every other terrorist/freedom fighter, union, gang leader etc during hard times. They maintain discipline thru violence. Its why people kill informants and so many Nazi collaborators in Europe were tortured and killed as soon as the opportunity arose.

It isn't the people running the illegal prison's fault the inmates they torture are violent as shit, it's the inmates fault.