Resource The NMFC History thread

[Hunters Host #3]

The club has just put up excellent footage from our first VFL/AFL Grand Final appearance in 1950.

Perfectly suited to this thread.



Outside of the asterisk, it's great viewing.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Absolute bloody gold!

 

[Rick18]

Ignore that one, the sound is a bit dodgy - there's a (much) longer version uploading at the moment which should be online pretty shortly.

 

[Rick18]

Another addition to the thread - footage of a game in Vancouver played the week after the Battle of Britain.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Memories...........

Nice work Rick

 

[BoomerBrownlow_29]

Revised version of first Grand Final appearance.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Much better, thanks mate.

 

[CURVE]

Wonderful footage, shame about the result, but that Essendon team was quite amazing. We were the only team to beat them that year, shame it was early in the season and not at the end.

 

[Liam Boy]

That game features my grandfather. Played pretty well too.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

This is pretty cool:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Melbourne_Football_Club_players

Supposedly 49% complete.

 

[RoOGrrrl]

Old Shinboner, I'm not sure if it has been posted before, but came across this:
http://www.australianrulesfootball.com.au/pages/GoneButNotForgotten
Interesting article on all the old football grounds, with pictures and a few video links.

 

[Rick18]

Couple of additions over the last few days for those who haven't seen them on the website (hooray for the off-season so I can research all these).

North's admission into the VFL in 1925 with an interesting story about the Geelong delegate - http://bitly.com/19qEZGH
North's attempted merger with Essendon to get into the league in 1921 - http://bitly.com/1aoh7Ss

 

[RoOGrrrl]

Fascinating insight, thanks Rick18.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Couple of additions over the last few days for those who haven't seen them on the website (hooray for the off-season so I can research all these).

North's admission into the VFL in 1925 with an interesting story about the Geelong delegate - http://bitly.com/19qEZGH
North's attempted merger with Essendon to get into the league in 1921 - http://bitly.com/1aoh7Ss

Hey Rick, I read on the * page that we were trying to pull a shifty over * with the proposed merger as there was an agreement in place (with whom I do not know) that any team to play out of Arden Street would be called North Melbourne and be required to play in Royal Blue and White. If the merger went ahead then the name * and their colours would have been forfeited. Do you know of any such agreement or is this just another case of donial?

 

[Rick18]

Hey Rick, I read on the * page that we were trying to pull a shifty over * with the proposed merger as there was an agreement in place (with whom I do not know) that any team to play out of Arden Street would be called North Melbourne and be required to play in Royal Blue and White. If the merger went ahead then the name * and their colours would have been forfeited. Do you know of any such agreement or is this just another case of donial?

I'm not 100% sure either way to be honest. All I managed to find on it was that papers of the time suggested eventually it wouldn't make sense for a team playing out of North Melbourne to be named Essendon. But there was nothing in there (that I could see anyway) which said there was an actual agreement based around colours.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Thanks Rick

 

[Grogg]

Tef, come back mate we need your input on this one.

 

[MaddAdam]

Tef, come back mate we need your input on this one.

Teffy hears your supplications but must remain in the Tibetan monastery until he has gained true enlightenment.

 

[Doss]

Hey Rick, I read on the * page that we were trying to pull a shifty over * with the proposed merger as there was an agreement in place (with whom I do not know) that any team to play out of Arden Street would be called North Melbourne and be required to play in Royal Blue and White. If the merger went ahead then the name * and their colours would have been forfeited. Do you know of any such agreement or is this just another case of donial?

Despite some misgivings here about that thread (and I do understand why there were misgivings), I genuinely wanted to have a thread where we perused evidence from the time about the issue.

As for the source that was quoted on our thread...my honest reading of it was that it was that it was neither North or Essendon who were trying to pull a shifty over the other, but that it was the VFA that screwed you guys over royally as much as anyone.

Note carefully here- I'm not claiming this is the case, just saying that was my reading from the source quoted on our thread.

I did note on our thread that material from other sources would be good for a bigger picture, but none was forthcoming.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Hey Doss,

Yeah, what Rick18 posted supports the screwing of North by the VFA, and thank **** for that. Otherwise the great NMFC would have been infected by the black and red scum forever.

 

[Doss]

Couple of additions over the last few days for those who haven't seen them on the website (hooray for the off-season so I can research all these).

North's admission into the VFL in 1925 with an interesting story about the Geelong delegate - http://bitly.com/19qEZGH
North's attempted merger with Essendon to get into the league in 1921 - http://bitly.com/1aoh7Ss

Aside from the Essendon facet of that article, the thing that got my attention there was the "Hawthorn and Footscray were consensus inclusions to the VFL..."

My understanding was always that Hawthorn were the borderline inclusion in 1925 (over Prahran), not North?

 

[Doss]

Hey Doss,

Yeah, what Rick18 posted supports the screwing of North by the VFA, and thank **** for that. Otherwise the great NMFC would have been infected by the black and red scum forever.

If nothing else, mate, I'm glad our clubs exist as separate entities.

The VFL's history would be considerably less rich for the lack of North's existence- no matter what anyone might claim to the contrary.

 

[NorthernLights]

If nothing else, mate, I'm glad our clubs exist as separate entities.

The VFL's history would be considerably less rich for the lack of North's existence- no matter what anyone might claim to the contrary.

See, if every *scum fan was like this we probably wouldn't hate them nearly as much.

 

[Rick18]

Aside from the Essendon facet of that article, the thing that got my attention there was the "Hawthorn and Footscray were consensus inclusions to the VFL..."

My understanding was always that Hawthorn were the borderline inclusion in 1925 (over Prahran), not North?

I initially thought that too, but in The North Story (a club history book), it says that on the minutes for the final meeting the three clubs that were initially nominated were Footscray, Hawthorn and then Prahran.

So basically it was some good last minute negotiating that got North in at Prahran's expense.

 

[Old Shinboner]

Old Shinboner, I'm not sure if it has been posted before, but came across this:
http://www.australianrulesfootball.com.au/pages/GoneButNotForgotten
Interesting article on all the old football grounds, with pictures and a few video links.

Thanks RoOGrrl, I have seen that site.

There are quite a few photos of the old grounds on the Internet which I have found, but precious few of Arden Street unfortunately (and the Lake Oval, Junction Oval and Windy Hill as well). I have contacted the club but they again have very little. As time goes by, the memories of the ground start to fade unfortunately. From memory there was very little fanfare when we left Arden Street back in 1985....60 of years of VFL history (and much more before that) gone and no real farewell (unlike more recent times at Say Victoria Park and Princes Park). The last game ever at Arden Street against Richmond only attracted 7,000 people, a far cry from a few years before where I remember being packed into the ground to see us beat Carlton by over 100 points. A bit sad really. I kick myself that I never took a camera to any games to take photos.