The Non-Essendon Thread

[Burzum]

Never let facts get in the way of a good story.

Think one or two posters have been owned.

Since when are assists conclusive proof that someone is not selfish?

Do you even understand why we say he's selfish?

 

[Melky Bar Kid]

Theres nothing Wrong with being a selfish player. Just look at Lance Buddy Franklin. But Brent Harvey is definately selfish Player. Hes diving cherry picking and tantrums Say it all doesnt It?

 

[yaco55]

Theres nothing Wrong with being a selfish player. Just look at Lance Buddy Franklin. But Brent Harvey is definately selfish Player. Hes diving cherry picking and tantrums Say it all doesnt It?

Is diving selfish or cheating !

And Buddy Franklin is hardly a selfish player - Wish all forwards had his work-rate.

 

[Slattery_20]

I deleted that post as I felt 'your board' etc. But given you responded ...

People seem to act as if Carey was some gift given to North and all our success in the 90s should be discounted. They forget we recruited him, we developed him from a 17 year old, we built excellent game plans, we held onto him in the face of massive offers from other clubs etc.

By your logic, should Michael Long's (another great of the game like Boomer) 2000 medal not count because his captain was James Hird, one of the best players ever?

Greg Miller gave Sydney $10k for him as a steak knives when he was getting Longmire. Pretty much a gift.
This is the thing about North - would not have a flag without buying players (Wade, Rantall, Davis in the 70s, Carey in the 90s).
Hardly discounting the success, because as you say you bought him early, built the side around him & brought him through - but that would not, ever, be allowed to happen today where a bigger, richer club simply buys a player.

Can you imagine the uproar if Mick Malthouse went up & offered GC $50k to take Zac Smith or Swallow off their hands???

 

[MaddAdam]

Greg Miller gave Sydney $10k for him as a steak knives when he was getting Longmire. Pretty much a gift.
This is the thing about North - would not have a flag without buying players (Wade, Rantall, Davis in the 70s, Carey in the 90s).
Hardly discounting the success, because as you say you bought him early, built the side around him & brought him through - but that would not, ever, be allowed to happen today where a bigger, richer club simply buys a player.

Can you imagine the uproar if Mick Malthouse went up & offered GC $50k to take Zac Smith or Swallow off their hands???

It was excellent recruiting. We saw a young talent and snapped him up. Same as you did with Hird who was drafted at pick 175,000 or whatever.

As for the 70s, how many ten year rule players were in the 77 flag? The real heart of that team - Dench, Schimma, Keith Greig, were all local recuits. And why didn't Essendon take advantage of it? Will you be forgoing limited free agency when it comes in now?

 

[Slattery_20]

It was excellent recruiting. We saw a young talent and snapped him up. Same as you did with Hird who was drafted at pick 175,000 or whatever.

Not really, all clubs had opportunities to take Hird, North alone bought Sydney out.

As for the 70s, how many ten year rule players were in the 77 flag? The real heart of that team - Dench, Schimma, Keith Greig, were all local recuits. And why didn't Essendon take advantage of it? Will you be forgoing limited free agency when it comes in now?

No idea TBH on the 77 flag, surprise me!
Essendon was messed in the 70s though, wouldn't be surprised if they muffed it or ignored it - I'm pretty sure we voted against it (as did most of the other clubs)

 

[MaddAdam]

Not really, all clubs had opportunities to take Hird, North alone bought Sydney out.

Really? What stopped any other club approaching Sydney? Fact is both Longmire and carey were from our old zone but had fallen into Sydney's clutches and we made a great recruiting coup. Any other club could have approached them.

Same with Hird. You had the inside running on him due to family stuff and got him. The situations are perfectly comprable.

No idea TBH on the 77 flag, surprise me!

Not one player we acquired through the ten year rule played in that side.

Essendon was messed in the 70s though, wouldn't be surprised if they muffed it or ignored it - I'm pretty sure we voted against it (as did most of the other clubs)

Well, most of the other clubs couldn't have voted against it, or it never would have passed.

North did vote against it. Then when it passed, we took advantage of it. Huge sour grapes from all other clubs.

 

[Kong]

Is diving selfish or cheating !

Question or statement?

It is selfish, for mine.

It's why Monfries is selfish, as well as Reimers.

You can either keep your feet and try to win the contest to help the team, or you can automatically go to ground and hope you get a free for it, and if you don't, you've literally laid down to allow your opponent off their leash.

 

[MaddAdam]

You can either keep your feet and try to win the contest to help the team, or you can automatically go to ground and hope you get a free for it, and if you don't, you've literally laid down to allow your opponent off their leash.

Harvey doesn't "automatically" go to ground. In fact, he keeps his feet exceptionally well.

 

[Kong]

I actually wasn't referring to Harvey in that incident, just responding to yaco about diving in general.

I've seen him actually stage quite a few times, though. Again, our club's not immune to it.

 

[Slattery_20]

Question or statement?

It is selfish, for mine.

It's why Monfries is selfish, as well as Reimers.

You can either keep your feet and try to win the contest to help the team, or you can automatically go to ground and hope you get a free for it, and if you don't, you've literally laid down to allow your opponent off their leash.

Well put.
Lloyd cleared it up when they moved him further out & made him captain, should've done it 3 years prior but better late than never.

 

[yaco55]

To be fair Harvey had a reputation early in his career for diving - A fair call - Cleared this from his game 10 years ago.

I call this cheating - But we all have different opinions.

 

[Kong]

No Robert Walls from 2011

doin ma happy dance

 

[Godzke]

I approve of this

 

[yaco55]

No Robert Walls from 2011

doin ma happy dance

He will re-appear - nothing surer.

 

[Super Gusto]

Putting the disaster of last night behind me.

Actually really looking forward to the Melb V Rich game today.

Both team's pretty even on paper with some exciting young prospects.

Should be a ripper.

 

[Phone]

stunning

 

[Super Gusto]

stunning

Yep. Well and truly living up to it's hype

 

[Kong]

At least they're kicking the right way.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/117073/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer

LOL.

 

[Phone]

stunning

xzxzxzxzx

 

[yaco55]

Another dominating game by Cloke.

And to think a few posters weren't interested in gaining his services.

 

[Kong]

Nobody could've seen how dominant he'd be this year, but yep, I feel vindicated for wanting us to get him.

 

[yaco55]

Think we would have won another 2 games this year with Cloke in the team.

The other benefit is that the coaching panel wouldn't have considered PLAYING 3 rucks.

 

[Burzum]

I'm scared for next week.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Time to make a stand againts the Cats sick and tired of them bullying us all the time SHOW SOME ****N TICKER!!!!