Food, Drink & Dining Out The Perth Thread - Part 3

[Chief]

Part 4 is here:

The Perth Thread - Part 4

Did you see that article in the local paper (not The West Aus) about a forum on the 15th to discuss ways to make crossing Charles st safer/better? I personally don't and have never (even as a child) had an issue with crossing it. Don’t even get me started. Yes it’s difficult to cross and I’m...

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[Scotland]

BRB just moving the Camira so I can get the Commodore out to get to the Cortina...

 

[JackOutback]

Perth isn't an apartment living city.

If you want people to live in apartments you need to make them attractive. Most Perth apartments are either shitty, expensive or both. Each to their own but nothing at all appeals to me about Cockburn Central. Not close to the city, river or coast and has no public open space, and it's not that cheap relative to surrounding areas. You can get a whole house in Atwell for $400k and there are parks etc.

Hence why they need to plan around it before putting up the apartments. Perth and Fremantle are set, but the rest need something to attract people, like parks, rec centre etc. Too many councils think a big shopping centre is enough to be the 'town centre' but they are often just soulless holes themselves.

 

[Power Raid]

something exciting happening in the western suburbs

loads of police sirens up stirling highway heading towards UWA

 

[Power Raid]

Hence why they need to plan around it before putting up the apartments. Perth and Fremantle are set, but the rest need something to attract people, like parks, rec centre etc. Too many councils think a big shopping centre is enough to be the 'town centre' but they are often just soulless holes themselves.

true but there are a lot of people that see a westfield as a destination of choice

 

[Power Raid]

I feel bad for the few people in these areas that actually give a shit about their gardens and street appeal. They stick out like dog's balls amongst the dead lawned, full of weeds, 6 cars parked out the front 2 of which are wrecks with piles of junk on the verge despite the pick up not being for another 8 months shitholes.

the council should just do the gardens for those that don't, submit an invoice and repossess those that don't pay.

 

[JackOutback]

true but there are a lot of people that see a westfield as a destination of choice

At least they seem to be recognising it and doing something about it. Take the Cannington example, the Carousel redevelopment includes a rooftop area with about 20 restaurants, bars, cafes, the cinema; it's always gonna feel more soulless and less organic than an area that grew naturally, but at least it's something. If the council can build the piazza they want, roads that are more like malls, they might be able to make a city centre that people will want to buy in to.

I mean, I wouldn't hold my breath, councils are quick to give up on expensive projects and just pull in the cash from apartment projects.

 

[Power Raid]

At least they seem to be recognising it and doing something about it. Take the Cannington example, the Carousel redevelopment includes a rooftop area with about 20 restaurants, bars, cafes, the cinema; it's always gonna feel more soulless and less organic than an area that grew naturally, but at least it's something. If the council can build the piazza they want, roads that are more like malls, they might be able to make a city centre that people will want to buy in to.

I mean, I wouldn't hold my breath, councils are quick to give up on expensive projects and just pull in the cash from apartment projects.

I’m not sure if I feel sorry for Westfield lovers or myself.

I wish I could be so easily content in life that a Westfield satisfied my needs.

I’m with you, nothing better than “organic” townships and businesses offering something unique rather than franchises and big business.

 

[Scotland]

true but there are a lot of people that see a westfield as a destination of choice

They do, but I don't think the correlation between those that do and those that are attracted to apartment living would be strong.

Most of Perth has a car based culture. Drive to Carousel, drive to Bunnings, drive to Garden City. Etc.

 

[Power Raid]

They do, but I don't think the correlation between those that do and those that are attracted to apartment living would be strong.

Most of Perth has a car based culture. Drive to Carousel, drive to Bunnings, drive to Garden City. Etc.

I think you’re right.

It’s probably those happy living in the burbs and driving everywhere as you suggest where apartment living is about convenience

 

[Breva_]

Could go either way, depending on what they build around it. They built the first two high rises in Cannington, now they could definitely go to shit, but they are building a town square/piazza kind of thing right next to it, which makes it more attractive. If they have a plan, these things could turn out ok, if they just build it and see what happens, well, wouldn't make for a good investment.

Those 2 high rises are guaranteed to go to shit. They were cheaply built & in a shit location. Whilst the warehouse next door is for sale / redevelopment, across the road you have a bit of wetland & a massive electrical substation that will never be be developed which doesn’t make for an attractive vista.

 

[Scotland]

I think you’re right.

It’s probably those happy living in the burbs and driving everywhere as you suggest where apartment living is about convenience

Which is where Perth fails. If you live in East Perth your best bet to do your shopping is to drive over to Vic Park - in which case why not just live in Vic Park where a townhouse or more is comparably priced to an apartment in East Perth? Nice around Claisebrook but I'll pass on an Adelaide Tce high rise.

I am baffled by people from Perth who move to Melbourne (Perth's too small, they're 'really more of a Melbourne person' etc.) then live out of the city and just drive to Chadstone or Highpoint or wherever.

 

[Power Raid]

Which is where Perth fails. If you live in East Perth your best bet to do your shopping is to drive over to Vic Park - in which case why not just live in Vic Park where a townhouse or more is comparably priced to an apartment in East Perth? Nice around Claisebrook but I'll pass on an Adelaide Tce high rise.

I am baffled by people from Perth who move to Melbourne (Perth's too small, they're 'really more of a Melbourne person' etc.) then live out of the city and just drive to Chadstone or Highpoint or wherever.

I lived around claisebrook from 2000 to 2013 and loved it. 20 minute walk to mt lawley and slightly less to Northbridge.

No need for food shopping with so much choice, especially the great cheap choices in Vic Park.

Adelaide terrace though should be pulled down and rebuilt with decent quality. Who wants to hear your neighbours taking a dump and then the flushing? Especially if one has guests.

 

[Perth gal]

I honestly couldn’t think of anything worse than living in a high rise apartment. Listening to other people flushing their toilet, listening to all the noise, not being able to have a pet. No yard . Nup , not for me.

 

[quotemokc]

I honestly couldn’t think of anything worse than living in a high rise apartment. Listening to other people flushing their toilet, listening to all the noise, not being able to have a pet. No yard . Nup , not for me.

For me it would be the constant need to always have to go up and down an elevator (and waiting for it to arrive).

I don't want leaving my home to be such a multiple step process.

 

[The Speaker]

Going up a lift to get 'home' would feel like living in a hotel.

 

[ioppolo]

Give me Bullsbrook or Chittering over an apartment any day.

Speaking of potential slums, apartments have been build right next to Beckenham train station. Across the road from a BP too. Next street has even more apartments. Take a left at the first roundabout and bam, even more apartments. We also can't forget Railway Parade, need apartments there too.

 

[Beerfish]

Was talking to wifey about this last night and she said someone she works with bought one of those cockburn apartments off the plan. They lasted about 12 months before they had to leave. Noisy neighbours. People actually throwing shit onto their balcony from the above balconies. Cops. Fights. Sounds delightful.

 

[twotooto]

Aside from all of the things mentioned about apartment living above, the thing would suck the most is having to pay quarterly strata fees and despotic caretakers and 'boards' on powertrips - those fukrs are worse than local councils.

 

[JackOutback]

I lived in an apartment in London and it was fantastic. Well built, well insulated, never heard the neighbours. Doubt the ones that spring up around here are anything like it in quality.

 

[perthblue]

I live in an old-ish apartment building and maybe I'm just lucky but I haven't had issues with noisy neighbours. The things I hate about it are no backyard, and being limited with renovations you can do. That said, as a single person I wouldn't want to live in a house unless I was sharing, and I hate sharing.

 

[kane249]

It's no longer a myth, you can be fined for driving too slow on the Freeway

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/pe...itchell-freeway-near-greenwood-ng-b881074074z

 

[Beerfish]

Hallelujah! Can't do the limit stay off every ****ing road not just the freeway.

 

[Taylor]

That Craigie open space could get turned into a massive park, a six story car park and then thirty more floors on top of apartments.

Just not too far north or it will smell.

 

[perthblue]

Good. Too many people, particularly old people, drive with the mentality of "if I go slow, nothing bad can happen" completely unaware of how much a hazard they are when they are driving so out of sync to everyone around them.

 

[ioppolo]

I live in an old-ish apartment building and maybe I'm just lucky but I haven't had issues with noisy neighbours. The things I hate about it are no backyard, and being limited with renovations you can do. That said, as a single person I wouldn't want to live in a house unless I was sharing, and I hate sharing.

I'd love to have a house to myself. Not a big ass 4x2 but a small 3x1 with adequate yard size for a dog. Preferably in an bush area with no chance of development