Mega Thread The Port Store Mega Thread Part 2

[chiwigi]

Still plenty of PI guernseys at the Port Store if people are interested.

I managed to get my preferred #14, pretty happy given I was at work during the sale.

There are still plenty of home guernseys in less popular players, and a stack of Shanghai and training guernseys. There are even a few teal preseason guernseys left.

I fancy a China one, might pop down after work.

 

[PAFC66]

Rediculous that there isn't a online sale. There's 5-6k port members here in Victoria.

 

[jakey]

Exactly. There will come a point where the old school Magpie supporters will die off. The SANFL is no where near the competition it once was. Kids are now being brought up in the "Power" era not the "Magpie" era with black, white AND teal being the colours of their club.

I hate to say it but when the old school Magpies supporters die off and the next generation grow up, I'm not sure if they'll really care all that much about the Magpies. Sure, they'll recognise it as our history but they aren't going to view it's not what they've grown up with.

Don't think I worded that all that well but I think you get the point.

Nah, don't buy it. I can tell you about 1870, Championships of Australia, Quinn, Reval, the 50's, Fos, R Ebert etc etc and have pride in them and it was all before my time.

Heritage only becomes irrelevant if you let it.

 

[chiwigi]

Exactly. There will come a point where the old school Magpie supporters will die off. The SANFL is no where near the competition it once was. Kids are now being brought up in the "Power" era not the "Magpie" era with black, white AND teal being the colours of their club.

I hate to say it but when the old school Magpies supporters die off and the next generation grow up, I'm not sure if they'll really care all that much about the Magpies. Sure, they'll recognise it as our history but they aren't going to view it's not what they've grown up with.

Don't think I worded that all that well but I think you get the point.

Surely that makes it even more urgent, not less.

 

[Needs Gravy]

Nah, don't buy it. I can tell you about 1870, Championships of Australia, Quinn, Reval, the 50's, Fos, R Ebert etc etc and have pride in them and it was all before my time.

Heritage only becomes irrelevant if you let it.

In total agreement, well said. The clubs history is what binds the club together. The more that can be done to ensure the past deeds of our club are passed onto the next generation of our supporters to understand and embrace the better. Without it we are just any other soulless franchise.
The club does well in this space largely thanks to Timmy G, the Bobby Quinn package that ran before i think the Norf game had our family at least discussing him as a player and marveling at his story. A story that began 70 odd years before my kids were born.
1870 should not be a marketing term rather referenced as a starting point to where and why we are today.
If nothing else wearing the prison bars connects the generations.

 

[SgtSchulz]

Yeah let's just ignore 1914, Bob Quinn, Fos Williams, Cahill, founding the SAFA, running the WWI patriotic league, pioneering interstate travel to WA, Victoria & NSW, the oldest still in use training ground in the game, the most successful guernsey still in top level football...

 

[El_Scorcho]

Exactly. There will come a point where the old school Magpie supporters will die off. The SANFL is no where near the competition it once was. Kids are now being brought up in the "Power" era not the "Magpie" era with black, white AND teal being the colours of their club.

I hate to say it but when the old school Magpies supporters die off and the next generation grow up, I'm not sure if they'll really care all that much about the Magpies. Sure, they'll recognise it as our history but they aren't going to view it's not what they've grown up with.

Don't think I worded that all that well but I think you get the point.

Disagree totally.

It's not just people over 35 who have bought every PB guernsey we've released for sale since 1997 in droves.

People feel connected to the history of a club even if they aren't there to witness it.

 

[Smartys Power]

Nah, don't buy it. I can tell you about 1870, Championships of Australia, Quinn, Reval, the 50's, Fos, R Ebert etc etc and have pride in them and it was all before my time.

Heritage only becomes irrelevant if you let it.

Surely that makes it even more urgent, not less.

Yeah let's just ignore 1914, Bob Quinn, Fos Williams, Cahill, founding the SAFA, running the WWI patriotic league, pioneering interstate travel to WA, Victoria & NSW, the oldest still in use training ground in the game, the most successful guernsey still in top level football...

I'm not saying that's all going to be thrown out the window, but I take it you were all brought up with the black and white prison bars? The next generation is being brought up in a world where the colours are black, white AND teal.

If we're changing back to the prison bars then it needs to be sooner rather than later because for the next generation, this isn't the guernsey they will be brought up to love.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Pretty confident the Magpies will become Power/Power Reserves/PAFC with no magpie moniker at some stage in the future. Be that 10, 20 or even 50 years time. It'll happen. Someone all about brand and a consistent message will make it happen. That and an AFL reserves comp.

NB: I have no overly strong feelings either way, but i'm accepting of change while retaining homages to the past.

 

[Smartys Power]

Disagree totally.

It's not just people over 35 who have bought every PB guernsey we've released for sale since 1997 in droves.

People feel connected to the history of a club even if they aren't there to witness it.

Yes, you're right. However, it is still all recent. The younger generation still have their parents, grandparents etc. that had that stronger connection to the Magpies and the PB making it easier to pass down. The PB guernsey wasn't all that long ago so is still stuck in the minds. You don't think that in say 30 years time when the kids of today grow up and have kids and grandkids of their own, won't feel as if they have more of a connection to the guernsey we have now?

Obviously it's all speculation and only time will tell but I feel as if what you have grown up with is what you learn to love.

 

[melanChronic]

Exactly. There will come a point where the old school Magpie supporters will die off. The SANFL is no where near the competition it once was. Kids are now being brought up in the "Power" era not the "Magpie" era with black, white AND teal being the colours of their club.

I hate to say it but when the old school Magpies supporters die off and the next generation grow up, I'm not sure if they'll really care all that much about the Magpies. Sure, they'll recognise it as our history but they aren't going to view it's not what they've grown up with.

Don't think I worded that all that well but I think you get the point.

Rubbish. I was 5 years old when Port entered the AFL, the perfect time for an impressionable kid to find his team. Growing up interstate I had never heard of Port Adelaide before, and was mainly caught up in the excitement of my next door neighbours (who were long time Port fans) as well as having a predilection for teal (lol) based on my favourite Street Shark. My mum bought me some Port Power lightning man t-shirt which I wore every day, and I was off.

I am now a diehard Port man who knows the whole history of the club and feel the bitter wound of what could have been in 1990 as much as any (moving to SA probably helped that). I have left two Magpies GFs feeling absolutely gutted, and my peak live football experience to this day is the 2014 EF watching us go old school on Richmond. Every members survey I convey the need to bring back the PBs at least 3 times, and most games I wear exclusively black and white colours trying to pretend teal never happened.

I am absolutely giddy with excitement reading this thread, fully aware it is probably just offseason like-mongering. The fire is still burning and will for a long time yet.

 

[jakey]

We're only different from the crows in a world where the maggies are relevant.

Timmy Ginever telling you to put your head over the ball in a guernsey presentation only makes sense in a world where the maggies are relevant.

The fact that our players stay while the crow's leave is about the stories we tell them about who we are and what belonging to the Port family means. The PBs are a huge symbol of that heritage. If we have a chance to renew and perpetuate their relevance, it only makes the connection, and us, stronger.

 

[Smartys Power]

Rubbish. I was 5 years old when Port entered the AFL, the perfect time for an impressionable kid to find his team. Growing up interstate I had never heard of Port Adelaide before, and was mainly caught up in the excitement of my next door neighbours (who were long time Port fans) as well as having a predilection for teal (lol) based on my favourite Street Shark. My mum bought me some Port Power lightning man t-shirt which I wore every day, and I was off.

I am now a diehard Port man who knows the whole history of the club and feel the bitter wound of what could have been in 1990 as much as any (moving to SA probably helped that). I have left two Magpies GFs feeling absolutely gutted, and my peak live football experience to this day is the 2014 EF watching us go old school on Richmond. Every members survey I convey the need to bring back the PBs at least 3 times, and most games I wear exclusively black and white colours trying to pretend teal never happened.

I am absolutely giddy with excitement reading this thread, fully aware it is probably just offseason like-mongering. The fire is still burning and will for a long time yet.

Look, I 100% get that but as I previously stated all the Magpies history is still relatively fresh. But what about in about 30 years time when black, white and teal has been the main moniker for the past 50 years? You don't think it could be different in the future?

 

[melanChronic]

Look, I 100% get that but as I previously stated all the Magpies history is still relatively fresh. But what about in about 30 years time when black, white and teal has been the main moniker for the past 50 years? You don't think it could be different in the future?

If it survived through the "Port Power are not the Ethelton Magpies" era then I think it will only be stronger in a climate of One Club and NTUA. I agree with you that reinstating the PBs sooner rather later is imperative. But I think there will always be a bubbling movement to embrace the heritage, if there isn't then the club is in trouble.

 

[chiwigi]

Just got a China and ANZAC PI.

Those interstate should call the shop and get stuff delivered.

 

[Smartys Power]

If it survived through the "Port Power are not the Ethelton Magpies" era then I think it will only be stronger in a climate of One Club and NTUA. I agree with you that reinstating the PBs sooner rather later is imperative. But I think there will always be a bubbling movement to embrace the heritage, if there isn't then the club is in trouble.

Yeah, I guess it's something to monitor in the future. The way I see it though is if you ask a newborn this year in 40 years time what they'd prefer, I think you'll find more often than not that they'll prefer to stick to what they've been brought up loving.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Rubbish. I was 5 years old when Port entered the AFL, the perfect time for an impressionable kid to find his team. Growing up interstate I had never heard of Port Adelaide before, and was mainly caught up in the excitement of my next door neighbours (who were long time Port fans) as well as having a predilection for teal (lol) based on my favourite Street Shark. My mum bought me some Port Power lightning man t-shirt which I wore every day, and I was off.

I am now a diehard Port man who knows the whole history of the club and feel the bitter wound of what could have been in 1990 as much as any (moving to SA probably helped that). I have left two Magpies GFs feeling absolutely gutted, and my peak live football experience to this day is the 2014 EF watching us go old school on Richmond. Every members survey I convey the need to bring back the PBs at least 3 times, and most games I wear exclusively black and white colours trying to pretend teal never happened.

I am absolutely giddy with excitement reading this thread, fully aware it is probably just offseason like-mongering. The fire is still burning and will for a long time yet.

I first read that as 'leaving 2 Magpies GirlFriends absolutely gutted' lol

 

[finbarr]

This has absolutely nothing to do with the Magpies remaining represented in the SANFL, or whether they're called the Power Reserves. That's not what this is about. It's about THAT jumper being and remaining forever linked to this club, the PORT ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB. It's not an SANFL guernsey, it's a Port guernsey, and a pretty bloody significant one. And being a Port Adelaide guernsey we must continually enforce our right to bring it out and play in it when we deem fit.
People miss the point so remarkably easily. Of course the kids of today don't necessarily identify with the SANFL team, but they need to be made acutely aware of that jumper and it's significance to this club.

 

[Portmagpies36]

Which one?

The prick with the smug face !

 

[Lagooner]

People miss the point so remarkably easily. Of course the kids of today don't necessarily identify with the SANFL team, but they need to be made acutely aware of that jumper and it's significance to this club.

Also as I said earlier ITT the emotional connections will be made just by watching great wins in the guernsey. It doesn't matter that all of the Oliver Jaspers out there were born 20 years after the last Magpies premiership. If they grow up watching us kick arse wearing the Prison Bars in the AFL they will f@#kin love it regardless of its history. And when they do learn about that side of things they will appreciate it even more.

 

[Dylan8]

Please read my new thinkpiece: Are Millennials Killing The Prison Bars?

 

[edgie]

Port Adelaide's history will never die, but it will change. People under 30 may still remember this club annihilating everything in it's path. People under 50 were there and involved in it. The heritage will only linger for so long; Because it was maintained for so long that this:

Doesn't feel as old as this

But it will one day, regardless of what we're wearing.

 

[SgtSchulz]

I'm not saying that's all going to be thrown out the window, but I take it you were all brought up with the black and white prison bars? The next generation is being brought up in a world where the colours are black, white AND teal.

If we're changing back to the prison bars then it needs to be sooner rather than later because for the next generation, this isn't the guernsey they will be brought up to love.

You gotta own it mate! OWN IT!

 

[ozph1870]

I don't think SBS to BiB was that drastic a change.

Well there's an important point - it would require a little bit of teal to be present, otherwise we're angling for a total rebrand. I just can't see that happening.

What a lot of rubbish. It's just one of our 4 colours. Still plenty of opportunities to have teal in our merch.

 

[Manhattan Bronx]

Still plenty of PI guernseys at the Port Store if people are interested.

I managed to get my preferred #14, pretty happy given I was at work during the sale.

There are still plenty of home guernseys in less popular players, and a stack of Shanghai and training guernseys. There are even a few teal preseason guernseys left.

How much are they? $80, if I remember correctly?