Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[charcolechaddy]

Indeed. Speed, acid and Thai stick were enough

And mushrooms when in season, just the thought of thm hurts my brain.

 

[charcolechaddy]

Different house m8

I hear m8 different to mate in my head when I read them.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

I hear m8 different to mate in my head when I read them.

Sorry meight

 

[Kickpuncher]

Ive got a few mates who were pretty close with the lad that passed today. It's gutting how one silly mistake can hurt so many people.

Although I'm with Dylan8 on this one. Im not saying change the law but I think there should be more education for those that would still rather take the risk. If you can't stop everyone isn't it better to make sure these people know how to look after themselves properly when experimenting with party drugs. Especially those who may only just be turning 18 and not have much insight.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Ive got a few mates who were pretty close with the lad that passed today. It's gutting how one silly mistake can hurt so many people.

Although I'm with Dylan8 on this one. Im not saying change the law but I think there should be more education for those that would still rather take the risk. If you can't stop everyone isn't it better to make sure these people know how to look after themselves properly when experimenting with party drugs. Especially those who may only just be turning 18 and not have much insight.

I highly doubt anyone doesn't understand or has never heard "drugs are bad". Any further education is just going to fall on deaf ears, they know full well it's bad shit - but because PINGAZ M8, STEREOS BRAHHH, some of these people come from really good families and saying they don't understand the possible consequences is bordering on ridiculous. Wide spread news of a chick dying at Stereos in another town just days before. BETTER HOP ON THE DRUGS THE NEXT ****ING DAY.

No. Their selfishness is unparalleled, and the grief they cause unthinkable. Spending more money on 'education' is objectively pointless.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Pellegrini gonna lose his job this weekend.

Welcome Pep.

 

[diegodcg]

Shaqiri + Arnautovic ftw

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Sad for the guy's family and friends.

But sorry if this sounds heartless. Numerous amounts of warnings, especially after Sydney's stereo. The fact that it was 40 degrees today adds more to that it was a terrible idea. It's just a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Lagooner]

Bullshit.

Ostrayans all let us root Joyce for she is young and free....

....our bone has girth for C.

 

[edgie]

Well this is pretty broad and general. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That's a quality rebuttal.

If you think Aussies already have a problem abusing alcohol, how on Earth do you figure easier access to drugs will go down with responsibility and moderation?

 

[Dylan8]

That's a quality rebuttal.

If you think Aussies already have a problem abusing alcohol, how on Earth do you figure easier access to drugs will go down with responsibility and moderation?

Are you still hung up on the alcohol thing? I never said we had an alcohol problem. Please re-read what I said before saying stuff like that. Honestly the offense you're taking to me comparing illicit drugs to alcohol is pretty ****ing strange.

 

[edgie]

The offense, well, not offense, but a baffled misunderstanding, isn't the comparison to alcohol, it's the assumption that legalisation will help the drug abuse problem, and using statistics from places that are completely different to Australia as basis for that.

I use alcohol as a basis because that is already legal, has had the stigma removed, and it's fair to say Australia has an alcohol problem. The same thing will happen with drugs.

 

[tribey]

The offense, well, not offense, but a baffled misunderstanding, isn't the comparison to alcohol, it's the assumption that legalisation will help the drug abuse problem, and using statistics from places that are completely different to Australia as basis for that.

Legalising drugs would allow them to be regulated and subject to some modicum of quality control.

In which case you'd know exactly what you're taking as opposed to swallowing/sniffing/injecting anything from Ajax to crushed laxatives, panadol or talc.

 

[edgie]

Legalising drugs would allow them to be regulated and subject to some modicum of quality control.

In which case you'd know exactly what you're taking as opposed to swallowing/sniffing/injecting anything from Ajax to crushed laxatives, panadol or talc.

I agree with all of that.

I reckon however, increased availability means any harm done by bad quality drugs, will be counteracted by more users, therefore more abuse.

 

[Dylan8]

I just don't understand your argument at all. You're saying generally that Australians... can't handle their beer? Have a problem with alcohol? I don't know, I asked you to clarify but you just said the same thing so. Bloody broad statement with no facts to back it up though.

Fact is legalisation doesn't mean EVERYONE GONNA BE A DRUG FIEND for christ's sake every available stat on places that have decriminalised drugs has shown no increase in drug use. Why would Australia be different?

At worse, drug use stays the same. Drugs become more safe because there are regulations, checks and standards. Drug dealers are off the streets. Police no longer give a **** about busting little Johnny for selling a few grams so they are free to do better police work. The government collects tax from drugs.

 

[Dylan8]

It doesn't necessarily mean more availabilty by the way. It just changes vendor.

 

[Doctor Feel]

If party drugs become legal, I for one will be a happy mother ****er as I have a stake in Mayne Pharma.

 

[philthy05]

Cannot compare drugs to alcohol.

Yes alcohol causes deaths in our society.

Yes alcohol causes issues in our society.

If hard drugs were as common as alcohol it would cause a million more deaths and issues then alcohol.

I don't really care about weed. It's probably on a par with alcohol to be honest. The vast majority who use it cause no issues and don't hurt anyone and probably aren't any worse off then a smoker or junk food eater. Just a few that don't do well on it and it's not a good idea for.

 

[Dylan8]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LEGALITY DOESNT EQUAL MORE COMMON

 

[edgie]

I just don't understand your argument at all. You're saying generally that Australians... can't handle their beer? Have a problem with alcohol? I don't know, I asked you to clarify but you just said the same thing so. Bloody broad statement with no facts to back it up though.

Fact is legalisation doesn't mean EVERYONE GONNA BE A DRUG FIEND for christ's sake every available stat on places that have decriminalised drugs has shown no increase in drug use. Why would Australia be different?

At worse, drug use stays the same. Drugs become more safe because there are regulations, checks and standards. Drug dealers are off the streets. Police no longer give a **** about busting little Johnny for selling a few grams so they are free to do better police work. The government collects tax from drugs.

As far as pissheads go, we're up their with the best of em.

It's all good though, once we learn moderation and responsibility and drink a little less, we can get it under control.

https://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/blog/alcohol-fuelled-violence-rise-despite-falling-consumption

Ah.

Australia would be different to all those places in South America with legal drugs, because Australians are different to South Americans! Who woulda thunk it?

 

[El_Scorcho]

That's a quality rebuttal.

If you think Aussies already have a problem abusing alcohol, how on Earth do you figure easier access to drugs will go down with responsibility and moderation?

Do you really think people who want drugs like pot or mdma are having any trouble finding it?

The "easier access" thing is a red herring.

What they would get is a safer, controlled product.

Pot and mdma also aren't responsible for the behavioural problems that alcohol is either. People smoking pot or taking ecstasy don't assault other people or damage property.

Instead of pushing people who are going to use these relatively harmless substances to the fringes of society, we need to support them and look after them and most importantly, be more easily able to account for what they've consumed.

Drugs like ice and heroin are a totally different kettle of fish and cause massive issues, much like alcohol.

 

[Dylan8]

As far as pissheads go, we're up their with the best of em.

It's all good though, once we learn moderation and responsibility and drink a little less, we can get it under control.

https://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/blog/alcohol-fuelled-violence-rise-despite-falling-consumption

Ah.

OK we legalise drugs and then everyone will become a drug addict like everyone is an alcoholic because we drink margianally more alcohol per capita than the USA and Canada and less than Britain. Litres per capita per what? Day? Week? Idk.

You're drawing an incredibly long bow.

 

[Dylan8]

It's not even about attacking alcohol anyway which is what I think you think I'm doing.

All I'm saying is it's perfectly fine to have something like alcohol in our society as long as it regulated and there is legislation limiting the actions people can do when under the influence. It makes it safer for everyone.

Similarly party pills like MDMA and drugs like pot being legalised is better for everyone. Because prohibition isn't stopping people doing the drugs, but it is affecting the quality control which is what is hurting people.

 

[Grave Danger]

"Hey nerd - shut the **** up"

 

[edgie]

OK we legalise drugs and then everyone will become a drug addict like everyone is an alcoholic because we drink margianally more alcohol per capita than the USA and Canada and less than Britain. Litres per capita per what? Day? Week? Idk.

You're drawing an incredibly long bow.

Semantics. We drink more and that's factual. Whilst worldwide statistics of alcohol influenced crime and violence are hard to come by, I put my left nut on us having a higher % than many places above us on the list, except maybe UK. Hmmm. Maybe there's something in that? I would put my right nut on more people using more drugs if they were easier to acquire and there were no legal or personal repercussions.

Not everyone will become a drug addict, now you're being hyperbolic. I'm saying what I've said from the start, that legalisation will not result in less harm done by drugs. It may not mean more, but it definitely won't mean less. It's much ado over nothing. Legalisation is not the holy grail of ending drug abuse, all it does it clear up some police work to police the other drugs that remain illegal, since no one can agree on which drugs to let go and which that we need stamped out of use (ice).

The longbow was an effective weapon in warfare so I'm happy to draw it.