Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Power Raid]

just broke my big toe.........I think I'm going to cry

 

[CrimsonRaven]

Boardwalk Empire. Any good?

 

[Power Raid]

Boardwalk Empire. Any good?

I tried to like it but just couldn't get into it

 

[_Christoh_]

just broke my big toe.........I think I'm going to cry

That's good luck, I broke my big toe the day before the 2004 prelim. Enjoy!

 

[Power Raid]

That's good luck, I broke my big toe the day before the 2004 prelim. Enjoy!

I feel lucky!

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Heres a sentence I never thought id say ever again:

The new Korn album is exceptionally good.

I think you are doing what I do when I see a shit movie.

I tell everyone it was great so they go and see it and suffer like I did.

Are you trying to Norbert me Macca?

 

[Macca19]

Im as surprised as anyone....its actually really good. Bouncy as hell. Id say its the best thing they've done since Life is Peachy. But I grew up with Korn as 1 of 2 bands I had as my bands so ill always hold a soft spot for them.

 

[chiwigi]

You mean those pre-Christian pagan festivals that were appropriated by the church in the middle ages? Since they are older then Christianity and are still around today, were the pagans therefore making accurate truth-claims as well?

If God is eternal, then they were relevant, the Christian manifestation of God in an evolution of the IDEA of an omnipotent being, not the start idea. Theologists quite logically argue that the earlier venerations and festivals are are for the same God but through a different lens.

The only consistent 'truth' claim is for the existence of a God, the manifestation changes according to cultural norms.

 

[chiwigi]

Boardwalk Empire. Any good?

Awesome, some series tail a bit but overall GREAT T.V.

It actually used one of my favourite sayings that is pertinent to the other debate as well.


Just because you (or I) believe it, it doesn't mean it's true.

 

[Concussion]

just broke my big toe.........I think I'm going to cry

Did you drop the watermelon?

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Heres a sentence I never thought id say ever again:

The new Korn album is exceptionally good.

Wow... I didnt even want to go there. Intriguing.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Im as surprised as anyone....its actually really good. Bouncy as hell. Id say its the best thing they've done since Life is Peachy. But I grew up with Korn as 1 of 2 bands I had as my bands so ill always hold a soft spot for them.

Blind was one of the best first release singles ever !

 

[Concussion]

I tried to like it but just couldn't get into it

It is good, a bit repetitive but lots of swearing and some good gore. Some better series(sorry if u have seen them already), IMO, are:
The Wire
Breaking Bad
Hell on Wheels
Deadwood
The Walking Dead
Bates Hotel (second season coming)
Carnivale (be prepared for disappointment after season 2 though)

I couldn't get into True Blood, GoT (after season 1) or Sons of Anarchy (after season 2) but they might appeal.

Like I said earlier, sorry if you have already watched any of the above.

 

[bomberclifford]

If God is eternal, then they were relevant, the Christian manifestation of God in an evolution of the IDEA of an omnipotent being, not the start idea. Theologists quite logically argue that the earlier venerations and festivals are are for the same God but through a different lens.

The only consistent 'truth' claim is for the existence of a God, the manifestation changes according to cultural norms.

The problem with this is that by elevating the notion of God to be an eternal, omnipotent being, outside of the laws of the physical universe, unknowable and unfathomable, detached from any organised religion, makes the whole point rather irrelevant to ANY discussion other than some interesting metaphysical chitchat.

I'd also add that, when claims of 'creationism' having an equal amount of evidence as current scientific theories on the beginnings of the universe are bandied about, they're not talking about a neutral, flavourless god, they're talking about a specific god as defined by their doctrine of choice, as well as all the baggage that comes with it.

 

[chiwigi]

The problem with this is that by elevating the notion of God to be an eternal, omnipotent being, outside of the laws of the physical universe, unknowable and unfathomable, detached from any organised religion, makes the whole point rather irrelevant to ANY discussion other than some interesting metaphysical chitchat.

I'd also add that, when claims of 'creationism' having an equal amount of evidence as current scientific theories on the beginnings of the universe are bandied about, they're not talking about a neutral, flavourless god, they're talking about a specific god as defined by their doctrine of choice, as well as all the baggage that comes with it.

Para 1 - Chit chat? You mean philosophising, the whole basis of science and religion. Theoretics are as much a part of science as theology and philosophy and hugely important.

Para 2 - only in crazy fundamentalist areas. You'll never get rid of fundamentalists as they are the ones NOT doing part 1, they want it simple and on a plate.

 

[BrockBlitz]

Thanks for the follow up BrockBlitz . What are job prospects like in Oz, ie the opportunities to use all your study? How close or much crossover do you have with the bio engineering field? Eg the guys building those contraptions that are making spinal injury victims walk again with the use of machinery strapped onto to their backs.

Am I right in saying in your field of work, you are more likely to design and build equipment and develop software than do the analytical stuff from the data collected?

Anyway good to know, I can pick the brains of you and Power Freak2008 re the training and sports science stuff the club is doing.

Your correct on most of those!
Poor job opportunities in Australia, especially Adelaide.
Huge cross over to bio engineering, I forgot to add that in but rehab is part of what we do.
I would have thought I'd have less to do with the analytical stuff but we actually have a major part in data analysis as well. In terms of GPS type stuff, we'd stay away from that. Technique for weight lifting, kicking, punching, batting etc is the sort of thing we get involved in a lot.

Say we have a rower who is technically sound to the eye, we test him and find an anomaly in his stroke profile. I.e we can test and develop a graph of force over time for each stroke. If there is a dip or spike or the graph is not smooth we can sync slow motion cameras with the graph and find out exactly what the bloke is doing wrong and why he isn't getting the most out of himself. Basically we're analytic coaches, putting data behind what coaches have been preaching for years. It just adds another dimension to athlete feedback and testing. Rarely has my field come up with a technique for a sport and told the coaches there is a better way.

 

[bomberclifford]

Para 1 - Chit chat? You mean philosophising, the whole basis of science and religion. Theoretics are as much a part of science as theology and philosophy and hugely important.

I didn't say anything that contradicts what you've just stated. The topic being discussed is the notion of God as you posited. That notion or idea would have no bearing on any scientific discussion as it would have no impact on any theory whether it is true or not. In other words, it's a moot point.

Para 2 - only in crazy fundamentalist areas. You'll never get rid of fundamentalists as they are the ones NOT doing part 1, they want it simple and on a plate.

I seriously challenge this. You must live in a very different world to me because the ones doing Part 2 far, far outweigh those doing Part 1.

(I'm all for Part 1, by the way. I just don't think it has any bearing on the scientific process.)

 

[Concussion]

Bring back the footy already

 

[bomberclifford]

We're a diverse and interesting bunch of mofos on this board, that's for sure.

 

[Andre]

Bring back the footy already

Pray for footy?

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Bring back the footy already

Too much emotion in footy.

None in what these blokes are talking about.

 

[chiwigi]

I didn't say anything that contradicts what you've just stated. The topic being discussed is the notion of God as you posited. That notion or idea would have no bearing on any scientific discussion as it would have no impact on any theory whether it is true or not. In other words, it's a moot point.





I seriously challenge this. You must live in a very different world to me because the ones doing Part 2 far, far outweigh those doing Part 1.

(I'm all for Part 1, by the way. I just don't think it has any bearing on the scientific process.)

I must do, but I have also worked in faith schools for the past 8 years, working with priests, vicars etc. I am also doing much theology in my current masters and working again with many religious people (I am not not religious though I think a God head is a logical though unsatisfactory endpoint).

None that I work with are creationists or unquestioning bibliophiles. In fact their understanding of the nature of ancient writings and the fact they have actually read the bible, quran etc in the first place means they know things are not literal. These are also the teachings of the Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican churches both of whom fully accept evolution etc. as the best current theory but also claim that this does not discount the idea of God nor the philosophical teachings of the bible or the possibility of Jesus being God incarnate..


Where are you finding your fundamentalists? I am sure it is not at seminary or established churches, which make up the vast majority of Christians.


As for a moot point being discussion of the existence of God. I have to disagree with you there as it is fundamental to being, whichever way you decide and I tend to err on the safe side of Pascals wager.

Thje bearing on scientific process is tplain to see in the history of science, it is not the incremental steps that have led us to the modern era but the big what ifs.

 

[manureid]

I read about 2 posts per page in this thread atm....

 

[Natman]

I read about 2 posts per page in this thread atm....

Surely you do not want more music videos to make it readable?

 

[Concussion]

Boardwalk Empire. Any good?

I forgot to mention one of the better new series that started this year: Ray Donovan, it is worth watching just for his father, he is hilariously unconventional after being released from prison after 20 years.