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Migrants taking our jobs was only the first part of the original point. The second bit is that failing that they will take welfare which is a direct drain on the economy for no return. It's going to be either one or the other, that's a fact.
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Maybe we could start saving the world after we look after our pensioners that built this country, ensure that our indigenous people didn't have a third world standard of living, etc.
We could do all of those and more if we wanted to.

- We have huge amounts of land to settle people in
- Australia produces enough everything to feed every one of those people if we prioritised it.
- We have the best conditions for solar power in the world, water falls from the sky.

A place to call home, enough food to live on, and a bit of opportunity. If thats all we promised those refugees, they'd take it, I'm sure.
 
We're doing more damage to our land though mining and were losing more tax money through breaks to mining companies and assorted big business than we would if we let more refugees in


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We're doing more damage to our land though mining and were losing more tax money through breaks to mining companies and assorted big business than we would if we let more refugees in


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Well, we're definitely doing more damage to our land with mining...last I checked, refugees don't nest in strip mines. ;)
 
Well, we're definitely doing more damage to our land with mining...last I checked, refugees don't nest in strip mines. ;)
My point being we are subsidizing the destruction of our environment and people are worried about the cost of saving others from war torn countries.
 
lol at the refugee talk , can't believe pollys have let so many people think that its there fault , not the 1% who get away with everything and take jobs overseas and get massive tax breaks considering there wealth , its sad that rubert Murdoch has got his way so much and people have not realized the facts not there hidden agendas
 
We're doing more damage to our land though mining and were losing more tax money through breaks to mining companies and assorted big business than we would if we let more refugees in


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But mining and car manufacturing hires people.

Or something.
 
But mining and car manufacturing hires people.

Or something.
I'm sure there are environmentally-friendly alternatives that create jobs but unfortunately BIG GINA doesn't get loadsamoney from that
 

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Whilst its all well and good to go out and hug a few trees, mining is a massive part of the economy and without it we'd, particularly in SA, be up the creek without a paddle and would have far less capability to accept refugees etc.
 
Maybe we could start saving the world after we look after our pensioners that built this country, ensure that huge numbers of our indigenous people don't have a third world standard of living, etc.

You do know that many of them were migrants, don't you?
 
Whilst its all well and good to go out and hug a few trees, mining is a massive part of the economy and without it we'd, particularly in SA, be up the creek without a paddle and would have far less capability to accept refugees etc.

I mean look at all the bronze medals coming from olympic dam

Sorry.
 
Whilst its all well and good to go out and hug a few trees, mining is a massive part of the economy and without it we'd, particularly in SA, be up the creek without a paddle and would have far less capability to accept refugees etc.
Only if dumping mining was the only change you made
 
I know this is a little bit crazy, but if we heavily invest in renewable energy, maybe our economy would be less reliant on the mining industry?

Actually, if we heavily invest in renewable energy, we also won't need to burn fossil fuels to power our country.

Even better, if we heavily invest in renewable energy, we might not destroy the earth at quite the same rate as we currently are.

Aw, it's not for Australia. It's more of a Shelbyville New Zealand idea.
 

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I know this is a little bit crazy, but if we heavily invest in renewable energy, maybe our economy would be less reliant on the mining industry?

Actually, if we heavily invest in renewable energy, we also won't need to burn fossil fuels to power our country.

Even better, if we heavily invest in renewable energy, we might not destroy the earth at quite the same rate as we currently are.

Aw, it's not for Australia. It's more of a Shelbyville New Zealand idea.
Incorrect. Renewables are far too intermittent as a power supply.
France and Germany have dumped Nuclear in favour of renewables and as a result their usage of coal plants has gone through the roof to cover for times of low generation from renewables.
Renewables are only feasible with energy storage, and at the moment the lead acid batteries are by far the most advanced energy storage method and they have environmental problems of their own and aren't economically feasible for large scale storage.
 
Incorrect. Renewables are far too intermittent as a power supply.
France and Germany have dumped Nuclear in favour of renewables and as a result their usage of coal plants has gone through the roof to cover for times of low generation from renewables.
Renewables are only feasible with energy storage, and at the moment the lead acid batteries are by far the most advanced energy storage method and they have environmental problems of their own and aren't economically feasible for large scale storage.
Denmark can operate on100% wind power*. We have wind.

http://www.theguardian.com/environm...wind-windfarm-power-exceed-electricity-demand

Australia gets more sun than France or Germany obviously
 
I know this is a little bit crazy, but if we heavily invest in renewable energy, maybe our economy would be less reliant on the mining industry?

Actually, if we heavily invest in renewable energy, we also won't need to burn fossil fuels to power our country.

Even better, if we heavily invest in renewable energy, we might not destroy the earth at quite the same rate as we currently are.

Aw, it's not for Australia. It's more of a Shelbyville New Zealand idea.

Battery packs for houses are around the corner, some electricity suppliers have already soiled themselves by not supporting the next obvious era in electricity.

The Tesla factory in the US will be pumping out a crazy amount of battery storage potential when it ramps up to full production.

Within 10 years, battery storage potential and efficiency will make what we have today look primitive. Very exciting times. Going off grid won't mean candles much longer.
 
It's only a matter of time until we figure out how to store and possibly even wirelessly transmit electricity with an acceptable loss.

The problem is if figuring that out is 20'years away you just know that in-fighting and stalling and generally wish washy people , politicians and big business trying to hold on to what they have will see it take a further 20 years to be built.
 
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