Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Dylan8]

It only stops the smart one's or at least those who aren't influenced by peer group pressure, it's the dumb asses that take that crap who need to be educated not to take the crap in the first place.
And yep, those 'pingers' can seriously screw people up.

What does your first line have to do with prohibition working?

Maybe if it's some 'khead who takes the drugs week in week out will get ****ed up like anyone overusing any substance like alcohol but if taken in moderation it doesn't negatively impact you more than anything else. Nearly all instances of people getting ****ed up from one pill or whatever are due to the faults of probihition, where the pills are filled with unknown shit to cut costs. Regulate the industry and this disappears.

Smoking ice is ok?

Yeah look, touchy issue. I wouldn't do that shit. But is prohibition working?

Let me get this straight, I'm not advocating taking drugs and I'm not saying all drugs are fine and good and have no negative impacts. But the way we approach them and stigmatise them is not helping whatsoever.

How is it relevant to the situation at stereos though? Why bring it up? The more pressing issue is that people are dying as a result of drug use, how can we prevent this? How can we educate people to not do this? By pointing the finger at alcohol instead?

It's not relevant in this case. You want to grand stand about society as a whole, go for it, but that doesn't apply to the original post on the topic, does it?

It is relevant to bring up alcohol because it's a similar thing - a substance people take to alter their mind and behaviour temporarily. Alcohol has barely got a stigma attached to it in moderation, why do drugs like MDMA and pot?

 

[Eddie Dingle]

when festivals keep $10^ for a drink there'll always be a core who'll go for a cheaper option for 'enhancement'. Add a hot environment, inexperience and unquantified quality and these sad events will continue to happen.
A family's life has changed irrevocably today. There's got to be a better option than what's currently at hand.

It's like smoking or drink driving or driving without your seatbelt.

Don't do it.

And if you do don't look for sympathy when bad shit happens.

So when I od please don't say he was a good guy down on his luck tell the truth he gambled and lost.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

If I had a time machine right now I'd be at the Hollywood Bowl on copious amounts of LSD watching Hendrix.

 

[Portia]

If drugs were legal I almost definitely would have drug****ed my life by now

 

[Eddie Dingle]

If drugs were legal I almost definitely would have drug****ed my life by now

Me too

 

[Doctor Feel]

It's like smoking or drink driving or driving without your seatbelt.

Don't do it.

And if you do don't look for sympathy when bad shit happens.

So when I od please don't say he was a good guy down on his luck tell the truth he gambled and lost.

lol, that is actually the most annoying thing. The massive fawning by the media with the usual "HE WAS AN ANGEL, HE DIN DO NUFFIN"

 

[Jumbo]

Dylan8 , why do you keep banging on about prohibition, educate the idiots who take the drugs and belt the hell out of the dealers to try to make our society a better place. I prefer not to give up quite so easy.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Dylan8 , why do you keep banging on about prohibition, educate the idiots who take the drugs and belt the hell out of the dealers to try to make our society a better place. I prefer not to give up quite so easy.

I think what he is arguing is that removing prohibition removes black market dealers from the equation given they can be acquired legally through trusted and tested sources. Though he is likely correct, it doesn't particularly deal with any of the issues inherent to drugs, and it likely won't remove black market dealers entirely (i.e selling them cheaper than legal outlets). Stop gap solution at best and possibly the lesser of two evils, but as you say - it's a cop out.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Dylan8 , why do you keep banging on about prohibition, educate the idiots who take the drugs and belt the hell out of the dealers to try to make our society a better place. I prefer not to give up quite so easy.

ets derlan

 

[Dylan8]

Dylan8 , why do you keep banging on about prohibition, educate the idiots who take the drugs and belt the hell out of the dealers to try to make our society a better place. I prefer not to give up quite so easy.

Decriminalisation goes a long way to removing the stigma around illicit drugs, which opens the door to education and to drug users to speak up about their habits.

Prohibition and education don't go as well together as you'd like.

You say you're not "giving up", but we both would like the same thing. Decriminalisation is an alternative way of reducing crimes and harm associated with illicit drugs, one backed up by loads of evidence. I'd suggest that if we keep going about it the same way we'll have "given up".

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

A wise drug dealing mz once told a teenage BeerCans to stick to psychedelics mannnnnnn

 

[Eddie Dingle]

A wise drug dealing mz once told a teenage BeerCans to stick to psychedelics mannnnnnn

Acid is awesome.

Microdots ahm fiung liouyp nice.

 

[edgie]

Prohibition on guns ain't working perfectly either, guess we should relax that?

 

[Jumbo]

I'm probably a bit more touchy on the drug subject than most as up here in the Riverland 'Ice' is rampant and i'd love to see all of our local dealers vaporize as they are making a mess of our communities.

 

[Dylan8]

I'm probably a bit more touchy on the drug subject than most as up here in the Riverland 'Ice' is rampant and i'd love to see all of our local dealers vaporize as they are making a mess of our communities.

Yeah man. Ice is ****ed.

 

[Dylan8]

Prohibition on guns ain't working perfectly either, guess we should relax that?

Comparing guns to drugs. Man. Why bother drawing such a long bow?

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Yeah man. Ice is stuffed.

nICE point to agree on.

Terrible shit. Terrible terrible shit.

 

[Dylan8]

nICE point to agree on.

Terrible shit. Terrible terrible shit.

Essentially we're all in agreeance in our aims.

I just see a system that isn't working, while drugs continue to ruin entire communities. While logically prohibition should work, it isn't.

 

[Portia]

Prohibition works about the same way as speed limits, its a mitigator not a solution.

 

[Dylan8]

I'm only a veeeeeeeerry occasional drug user outside of alcohol and I can't stand stoners fwiw

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Essentially we're all in agreeance in our aims.

I just see a system that isn't working, while drugs continue to ruin entire communities. While logically prohibition should work, it isn't.

I was offered ice at a BDO in Adelaide about five years ago from a really good mate who I have taken drugs with for over 20 years. I said no thanks and went with the tried and tested pingers and booze. I saw a mate who I love dearly as he is gentle, caring and absolutely non aggressive turn into the biggest ****wit on the planet in a 36 hour period. He never went back there thank **** and I think we, all our friends, are ****ing glad it wasn't around when we were younger.

COAT.

campaigner of a thing.

 

[I Dont Care]

Ice is terrible. Made by greedy scum who know it only takes a dose or two to get you into their web. My nephew was/is on it or similar and no-one in the family has seen him for 2 years. It is rampant in country towns

 

[PepeSilvia]

T'was inevitable, still sad. One death from an overdose at Stereosonic.

http://www.news.com.au/national/man...c/news-story/1b5375baf0b45b96995ca166f0c0a113

Probably was a mixture of drugs and the hot weather, I remember quite a few years ago they tried to stage Enchanted Forest rave at the royal showgrounds during a weekend of extreme heat, don't think anyone died but drugs (especially ecstasy) and heat don't mix.

Instead of trying to combat the drugs, the cops should have made it their mission to keep the people on drugs safe from the extreme heat, but no doubt even on a 40°C bottles of water probably $10 each.

Prohibition on guns ain't working perfectly either, guess we should relax that?

Lol.

 

[edgie]

Comparing guns to drugs. Man. Why bother drawing such a long bow?

Legalisation will not fix drug abuse. Not even close. It's a poor argument really as Howard's gun laws has actually fixed a lot of shit and prevented bad shit from happening. Prohibition has not done that to drugs. Legalisation will not do it. Only cultural change will.

People who take too many drugs would continue to take too many drugs, whether they get them from the silk road or the smokes counter at woolies, and the negative effects on society will also continue be felt.

 

[I Dont Care]

and I think we, all our friends, are ******* glad it wasn't around when we were younger.

COAT.

campaigner of a thing.

Indeed. Speed, acid and Thai stick were enough