Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Far Kern]

Welcome back Doctor Feel.

This class war debate is what's called a dead cat manoeuver. Rather than saying "look, a dead cat" what you should really say is "who threw it and what are they trying to ****ing hide". Hint: do we really want another Tea Party government in this country? Just who benefits from that? Starts with R and it's not you...

 

[Janus]

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It's always good to hear a great succeeds-despite-himself story

You really think his dad said 'Hey son, I'll offer you a job doing multi-million dollar real estate deals because you failed your HSC'? See, I think it was more 'Listen here, you little shitcampaigner. You disgraced the family name when you failed your HSC, so if you don't go and get a job somewhere else you can work for me doing clerical work because it's obviously all you're good for.' I mean, the guy applied to work at Blockbuster Video, FFS.

 

[edgie]

Never watched Pursuit of Happyness I take it?

The one where the single dad makes his son sleep on the streets so he can make a job interview?

Imagine The Australian ripping in to him!





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[Hammer#8]

Talent, hard work and risk taking; three characteristics not necessary when making money in the world if these stories are anything to go by.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Blockbuster video ahhh those were the days.. mum got fined heaps too

 

[CrimsonRaven]

You really think his dad said 'Hey son, I'll offer you a job doing multi-million dollar real estate deals because you failed your HSC'? See, I think it was more 'Listen here, you little shitcampaigner. You disgraced the family name when you failed your HSC, so if you don't go and get a job somewhere else you can work for me doing clerical work because it's obviously all you're good for.' I mean, the guy applied to work at Blockbuster Video, FFS.

Strikes me as a typical rich kid who's actually pretty smart with a good education who just didn't give a **** during his teenage years.

You still have to have a dad who owns a real estate business to get in this situation.

 

[Dylan8]

You really think his dad said 'Hey son, I'll offer you a job doing multi-million dollar real estate deals because you failed your HSC'? See, I think it was more 'Listen here, you little shitcampaigner. You disgraced the family name when you failed your HSC, so if you don't go and get a job somewhere else you can work for me doing clerical work because it's obviously all you're good for.' I mean, the guy applied to work at Blockbuster Video, FFS.

The point was that without a privileged background this guy would have been a scrubbing toilets and has probably taken a career opportunity away from some poor scrub who had to go through uni to get a business degree just to be in the running.

 

[LukeSA]

Blockbuster video ahhh those were the days.. mum got fined heaps too

Movieland was the shizzle.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

The point was that without a privileged background this guy would have been a scrubbing toilets and has probably taken a career opportunity away from some poor scrub who had to go through uni to get a business degree just to be in the running.

Your views on the world come from experience then?

I reckon you might be a student who has never worked and lives with mum and dad in a safe middle class suburb.

As you should if you are indeed 12.

Will your "privilege" lead you to success in life spec mod?

 

[edgie]

Anyone who hasn't grown up with money and parents in stable work just could never understand it. If my brother for instance took a risk when he was HSC age and parents still out of work, he has no back up. It fails and he's bankrupt. No safety net.

I have had the experience of both, a childhood being poor and on the dole, and an adolescence with parents working. It is night and day. They weren't even earning a lot of money but it was still incomparable to living off social security.

Its what I see a lot in the world, people with no ****ing idea how debilitating it is to have nothing, in so much more than a materialistic sense.

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[Magpiespower]

Movieland was the shizzle.

Focus Video - great home entertainment!

 

[edgie]

You really think his dad said 'Hey son, I'll offer you a job doing multi-million dollar real estate deals because you failed your HSC'? See, I think it was more 'Listen here, you little shitcampaigner. You disgraced the family name when you failed your HSC, so if you don't go and get a job somewhere else you can work for me doing clerical work because it's obviously all you're good for.' I mean, the guy applied to work at Blockbuster Video, FFS.

So in other words because he failed HSC (harder to do than to pass it!) and didn't get a job his Dad gifted him a job in their business?

Are you serious? Surely you're taking the piss? This reads like satire.



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[Dylan8]

Will your "privilege" lead you to success in life spec mod?

Probably. I'm a white male with a middle class upbringing and I recognise the privilege this affords me.

You don't need extensive life experience to have empathy for people who don't have it as good as you and it's not hard to see the system is rigged.

 

[Janus]

The point was that without a privileged background this guy would have been a scrubbing toilets and has probably taken a career opportunity away from some poor scrub who had to go through uni to get a business degree just to be in the running.

Life isn't fair, dude. If he really sucked ass he would have stayed doing clerical work, because there's no way his father would have trusted him to close any deals.

As for business degrees - nothing beats real world experience, IMO. When that poor scrub who 'had' to go through uni came out 4 years later, this guy had already been working in the business for 4 years. Who do you think gets looked at first when an opportunity comes up? The guy who has no idea about how things are run in the place and has no rapport with existing clients or real world experience...or the shit-kicker who knuckled down and did what he was asked to do and actually discovered he had a talent for it?

 

[Doctor Feel]

Spec Commissar Dylan8

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Probably. I'm a white male with a middle class upbringing and I recognise the privilege this affords me.

You don't need extensive life experience to have empathy for people who don't have it as good as you and it's not hard to see the system is rigged.

That's correct.

It does sadden me to see you so cynical at such a young age though.

 

[Dylan8]

Life isn't fair, dude. If he really sucked ass he would have stayed doing clerical work, because there's no way his father would have trusted him to close any deals.

As for business degrees - nothing beats real world experience, IMO. When that poor scrub who 'had' to go through uni came out 4 years later, this guy had already been working in the business for 4 years. Who do you think gets looked at first when an opportunity comes up? The guy who has no idea about how things are run in the place and has no rapport with existing clients or real world experience...or the shit-kicker who knuckled down and did what he was asked to do and actually discovered he had a talent for it?

This is just it though, the person without the nepotic connection doesn't any get the chance to do 4 years of work and get that experience pre-degree. How is this not sinking in that opportunity derives from connections that a poor person just doesn't have?

 

[Dylan8]

That's correct.

It does sadden me to see you so cynical at such a young age though.

I wish I could live in ignorance but when nearly all of the world's wealth goes to a select few, big corporations barely pay tax and even our own PM has been linked with offshore accounts while telling the rest of us to knuckle down, it's hard not to be cynical.

 

[edgie]

What is your point Janus?
No matter how many hoops you jump through it will always fall short to who you know, not what?

If you can't recognise the inherent inequity in this persons life... Well you already admitted it. What are you trying to argue? That equal opportunity to succeed is working? Funny way to go about it.



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[Eddie Dingle]

I wish I could live in ignorance but when nearly all of the world's wealth goes to a select few, big corporations barely pay tax and even our own PM has been linked with offshore accounts while telling the rest of us to knuckle down, it's hard not to be cynical.

Would you prefer communism over our current system?

 

[Doctor Feel]

Would you prefer communism over our current system?

Must. Crush. Capitalism.

 

[Portia]

Would you prefer communism over our current system?

Scandinavian socialism is pretty good

 

[El_Scorcho]

Life isn't fair, dude.

It's a lot fairer when you come from an affluent background

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[Eddie Dingle]

Must. Crush. Capitalism.

It was an honest question as I think that is what spec mod is advocating.

Not 100% sure.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Scandinavian socialism is pretty good

I will have to research this and get back to you.