Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 4: Shitizens on Pootroll

[Jonts]

Wait, when did IMDB close its message boards?

Last week or so

The trolls won
Next imo is YouTube

 

[edgie]

Yeah, I'd read those things all the time the same way I can't help but be drawn to Facebook comment sections.

At no stage do I go on Twitter and look for anyone's opinions on film and actors, etc. which was their rationale. "People use social media way more now".

Weird.

People are ****ed if reading a three line twitter status has replaced pages and pages of sometimes constructive dedicated discussion.

 

[edgie]

Last week or so

The trolls won
Next imo is YouTube

What trolls? That place was ran a lot tighter than most, including this one. Difference of opinion isn't a troll.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

There is no song that has ever come close to Shakespeare.

Seriously that's like saying there's nothing in written word that comes close to an Art Tatum piano piece.. it's not even comparable

 

[Dylan8]

Last week or so

The trolls won
Next imo is YouTube

Implying the YouTube comment section has ever been worth reading

 

[edgie]

Sex Farm

I love how there are 4 bass's in that.

 

[Forzaport]

There's an assumption that most of the kids are only in these positions as they will be graduating from Uni or building to something better in life in the near future. That's a bad assumption.

While a small percentage do use this type of employment as a stepping stone for many it's all they can and possibly will ever get. Our society should not be targeting the less fortunate to make life easier for the other side.

If anything we should be looking for ways to make employment for those more rewarding, not less.

A 10-15% tax on goods purchased on the weekends that was funnelled directly to staff at the expense of penalty rates was the answer. Always was.

If you are in the position to shop/party/dine/attend events on weekends then that's hardly going to hurt you greatly, it also doesn't hurt the people who need to be hurt the least and still gives the other side 5 full days to do any shopping they so urgently need to do.

That model gave options to all, this model just kicks people when they are already down.

Firstly, good luck implementing such a system. Secondly, even if said system was feasible, people would minimise their weekend spend to the point that it would be more likely to cost jobs than create jobs.

 

[Portia]

There is no song that has ever come close to Shakespeare.

 

[Portia]

Firstly, good luck implementing such a system. Secondly, even if said system was feasible, people would minimise their weekend spend to the point that it would be more likely to cost jobs than create jobs.

The capacity for a mass of workers to manage a reduction in their pay is very low.

The chance that a mass of customers will stop eating out on weekends because a main course at a pub or restaurant costs $1 to $2 extra is far lower.

 

[Steve Dore]

There is no song that has ever come close to Shakespeare.

I wasn't a big fan Will Shakespeare

 

[Doctor Feel]

Yeah, I'd read those things all the time the same way I can't help but be drawn to Facebook comment sections.

At no stage do I go on Twitter and look for anyone's opinions on film and actors, etc. which was their rationale. "People use social media way more now".

Weird.

> Trawling through antivax page comments

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

The funniest thing on IMDB are the low budget often dreadful films with 30 postive comments that suspiciously sound like members of the cast n' crew.

 

[spookism]

I'll see you and raise...

 

[edgie]

The funniest thing on IMDB are the low budget often dreadful films with 30 postive comments that suspiciously sound like members of the cast n' crew.

Wait, people can do that?

I'll be back.

Speaking of dreadful films, the Wake In Fright remake is a miniseries commissioned by channel 10. It's going to be utterly destroyed.


ps,

Spoiler: dont click here

 

[tribey]

> Trawling through antivax page comments

 

[ScooterBrother]

Firstly, good luck implementing such a system. Secondly, even if said system was feasible, people would minimise their weekend spend to the point that it would be more likely to cost jobs than create jobs.

Rubbish. Just charge 10% more on Sundays. Restaurants and pubs do that all the time on public holidays and the like already. Countries around the world have variable tax rates on their goods and services depending on all sorts of metrics.

If politics of late has taught us anything, its that people are willing to cut off their own if even the perception of saving jobs is communicated effectively.

The vast consumer base for these services are the middle class workers. Most of whom do a lot of their spending ... on the weekend, due to convenience and time availability. It would be a simple, easily implemented solution that would ensure businesses cover the extra cost (even though get extra revenue at those times anyway) but still enable people to you know, earn a living wage.

 

[Forzaport]

The capacity for a mass of workers to manage a reduction in their pay is very low.

The chance that a mass of customers will stop eating out on weekends because a main course at a pub or restaurant costs $1 to $2 extra is far lower.

As I said, good luck with that. It's a shame it can't be put to the test.

Also, I said people will minimise their spend, not stop their spend. It will be death by a thousand cuts for employers and employees.

 

[Portia]

Also, I said people will minimise their spend, not stop their spend. It will be death by a thousand cuts for employers and employees.

As opposed to effects of removal of penalty rates on employees without other compensation? Get off it.

Any hospo people out there have an idea on how much the average meal would have to go up to compensate for reduced penalty rates for staff that are on duty? $1 a plate? Even that much?

 

[Forzaport]

Rubbish. Just charge 10% more on Sundays. Restaurants and pubs do that all the time on public holidays and the like already. Countries around the world have variable tax rates on their goods and services depending on all sorts of metrics.

If politics of late has taught us anything, its that people are willing to cut off their own if even the perception of saving jobs is communicated effectively.

The vast consumer base for these services are the middle class workers. Most of whom do a lot of their spending ... on the weekend, due to convenience and time availability. It would be a simple, easily implemented solution that would ensure businesses cover the extra cost (even though get extra revenue at those times anyway) but still enable people to you know, earn a living wage.

Give me examples of places in the world where there is a 10-15% tax bump on weekends.

 

[Forzaport]

As opposed to effects of removal of penalty rates on employees without other compensation? Get off it.

Any hospo people out there have an idea on how much the average meal would have to go up to compensate for reduced penalty rates for staff that are on duty? $1 a plate? Even that much?

Penalty rates have been reduced, not removed. Why the need to operate in absurd absolutes?

If you think a 10-15% bump in tax on weekends will work, go for it. I won't stop you.

 

[Portia]

Penalty rates have been reduced, not removed. Why the need to operate in absurd absolutes?

Reduced, not removed, exactly. So that makes it even more interesting to see how mediocre any increase in customer cost would be to maintian current rates, when compared to the actual hardship caused to employees.

If you think a 10-15% bump in tax on weekends will work, go for it. I won't stop you.

Liar.

 

[Dylan8]

Prime Minister Eddie Dingle

 

[manureid]

What is all this about then?

http://cornesandsloane.co/jackson-trengove-nieuvision/

 

[Macca19]

As usual, the reduction in penalty rates has led to all number of people on my facebook up in arms how they now won't be able to afford their rent/clothing/food/life, even though a) if they read the announcement properly, almost all of those complaining won't actually be effected at all and b) it equates to about $12 a shift that they will be missing out on.

 

[Steve Dore]

I can remember when cafes and restaurants used to charge an additional cover charge for Sundays. I wonder why they stopped doing that?