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paxmaniac said:
Not only that, but you should have bet the flop. There was a bet and two callers before you. You should have taken control right there, especially with a flush draw on board. Raise to at least 0.60 IMO. At 0.02/0.05 you could probably even shove and get a call from top pair or a flush draw.
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Yeah got caught in too much of a trapping mode. Still new to online cash poker and getting help from posters is really appreciated.
 
gizmo01 said:
Yeah got caught in too much of a trapping mode. Still new to online cash poker and getting help from posters is really appreciated.
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Trapping can be useful if you have a made hand that cannot usually be beaten, even if your opponents hit. So for example, if you have a full house and your opponent is drawing for a flush, it can be profitable to play it slow (though not all the time). This wasn't the case here, so you had to bet hard on both streets (as pax said, at least pot).
 
And the BS continues. My internet cuts out for 20 mins. End up losing 1/3 of my stack. Come back with 11-12bb's and im in the BB with KK. The usual result. Down nearly $700 US in a few days now. God I hate variance in MTT's.

Seat 1: suuseksi ($2,000 in chips)
Seat 2: Rosinsvin ($1,930 in chips)
Seat 3: dmata ($2,085 in chips)
Seat 4: MuurahaisJim ($5,630 in chips)
Seat 5: The.Mouse ($3,785 in chips)
Seat 6: Jean Tek ($3,463 in chips)
Seat 7: Mogens46 ($10,146 in chips)
Seat 9: Cartman2122 ($1,854 in chips)
Seat 10: MArretA94 ($4,520 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Mogens46 posts small blind ($75), Cartman2122 posts big blind ($150).

PRE-FLOP
MArretA94 folds, suuseksi folds, Rosinsvin bets $450, dmata folds, MuurahaisJim folds, The.Mouse folds, Jean Tek folds, Mogens46 folds, Cartman2122 bets $1,704 and is all-in, Rosinsvin bets $1,480 and is all-in.

FLOP [board cards: 4H,8C,6S ]

TURN [board cards: 4H,8C,6S,AH ]

RIVER [board cards: 4H,8C,6S,AH,9C ]

SHOWDOWN
Rosinsvin shows [ QH,AS ]
Cartman2122 shows [ KH,KS ]
Rosinsvin wins $76, Rosinsvin wins $3,783.
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YOTC said:
Think of the positives

You're bound to run good nao.
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I'm trying to. But it's just not stopping.

Seat 1: purger1234 ($7,740 in chips) Seat 2: Alexis52 ($2,315 in chips) Seat 3: BenDana-1 ($887 in chips) Seat 4: bibi88x ($1,920 in chips) Seat 5: sildsen1974 ($5,542 in chips) Seat 6: Kaskanter ($2,965 in chips) Seat 7: geguel ($6,895 in chips) Seat 9: Cartman2122 ($3,150 in chips) Seat 10: Rage zzz ($1,565 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Cartman2122 posts big blind ($150).

PRE-FLOP
Rage zzz folds, purger1234 calls $150, Alexis52 calls $150, BenDana-1 folds, bibi88x folds, sildsen1974 calls $150, Kaskanter folds, geguel calls $150, Cartman2122 checks.

FLOP [board cards: KD,2H,JC ]
Cartman2122 checks, purger1234 checks, Alexis52 checks, sildsen1974 checks, geguel bets $450, Cartman2122 bets $1,200, purger1234 folds, Alexis52 folds, sildsen1974 folds, geguel calls $750.

TURN [board cards: KD,2H,JC,9S ]
Cartman2122 bets $1,800 and is all-in, geguel calls $1,800.

RIVER [board cards: KD,2H,JC,9S,TD ]


SHOWDOWN
Cartman2122 shows [ JH,2S ]
geguel shows [ 9D,JD ]
geguel wins $6,750.
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I'm going to go cry now :(.
 
GREAT. AND NOW I BUBBLE FOR A $200 TICKET. Top 4 got a ticket, shoved next hand with 810dd, flop a pair, guy turns the nut straight.

ANTES/BLINDS
JZaparka4 posts small blind ($1,000), robwillrobu posts big blind ($2,000).
PRE-FLOP
daibhipoo folds, Cartman2122 bets $5,000, Nobi-1 folds, frane g folds, JZaparka4 bets $6,110 and is all-in, robwillrobu bets $8,110, Cartman2122 bets $31,277 and is all-in, robwillrobu calls $19,810 and is all-in.

FLOP [board cards: 6H,2D,6D ]

TURN [board cards: 6H,2D,6D,8H ]

RIVER [board cards: 6H,2D,6D,8H,KC ]

SHOWDOWN
Cartman2122 shows [ JD,JS ]
JZaparka4 shows [ AH,9S ]
robwillrobu shows [ AD,KD ]
Cartman2122 wins $6,357, robwillrobu wins $45,620, robwillrobu wins $21,330.
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:mad: :mad:
 
The good run continues!!! :D
ANTES/BLINDS
simi72 posts small blind ($15), didjagger posts big blind ($30).

PRE-FLOP
fiskas68 calls $30, DRACU34 bets $135, xxtamara folds, Hrgota folds, hc-grinder8 folds, glonney calls $135, Cartman2122 bets $1,595 and is all-in, voileux1 folds, simi72 folds, didjagger folds, fiskas68 folds, DRACU34 calls $840 and is all-in, glonney folds.

FLOP [board cards: 3S,2S,3H ]


TURN [board cards: 3S,2S,3H,5C ]


RIVER [board cards: 3S,2S,3H,5C,4C ]

SHOWDOWN
Cartman2122 shows [ AS,AH ]
DRACU34 shows [ 6H,6C ]
Cartman2122 wins $620, DRACU34 wins $2,160.
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Should have gotten away from this. But semi-tilt from previous hand.
ANTES/BLINDS
he16he19 posts small blind ($25), Mr R.Flagg posts big blind ($50).

PRE-FLOP
Cartman2122 calls $50, Babu.Bhatt folds, x_tommyg2 folds, Nattugla bets $175, erick69 folds, lillebaby folds, babbuu folds, stelios16 folds, he16he19 calls $150, Mr R.Flagg folds, Cartman2122 calls $125.

FLOP [board cards: 9H,8H,TH ]
he16he19 checks, Cartman2122 checks, Nattugla bets $575, he16he19 calls $575, Cartman2122 bets $2,950 and is all-in, Nattugla calls $660 and is all-in, he16he19 calls $1,265 and is all-in.

TURN [board cards: 9H,8H,TH,2C ]


RIVER [board cards: 9H,8H,TH,2C,3S ]


SHOWDOWN
Cartman2122 shows [ 7S,6S ]
Nattugla shows [ JS,JD ]
he16he19 shows [ JH,QS ]
Cartman2122 wins $1,110, he16he19 wins $1,210, he16he19 wins $4,280.
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ANTES/BLINDS
zbigniew51 posts small blind ($200), callade posts big blind ($400).

PRE-FLOP
shumi29 folds, esge82 folds, acmilan2000 folds, Mungos_x calls $400, jojos765 calls $400, Cartman2122 bets $1,600, juanjoser111 folds, zbigniew51 calls $1,400, callade folds, Mungos_x bets $3,320 and is all-in, jojos765 calls $3,320, Cartman2122 bets $10,240 and is all-in, zbigniew51 folds, jojos765 calls $8,120.

FLOP [board cards: TH,2H,2S ]


TURN [board cards: TH,2H,2S,3S ]


RIVER [board cards: TH,2H,2S,3S,6D ]

SHOWDOWN
Cartman2122 shows [ KC,KH ]
Mungos_x shows [ 3D,3H ]
jojos765 shows [ JC,KS ]
Cartman2122 wins $16,240, Mungos_x wins $13,160.
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ANTES/BLINDS
juanjoser111 posts small blind ($500), zbigniew51 posts big blind ($1,000).

PRE-FLOP
Mungos_x folds, Cartman2122 bets $2,500, juanjoser111 folds, zbigniew51 calls $1,500.

FLOP [board cards: 8H,7H,KC ]
zbigniew51 checks, Cartman2122 checks.

TURN [board cards: 8H,7H,KC,7S ]
zbigniew51 checks, Cartman2122 bets $3,500, zbigniew51 calls $3,500.

RIVER [board cards: 8H,7H,KC,7S,2D ]
zbigniew51 bets $3,500, Cartman2122 calls $3,500.

SHOWDOWN
zbigniew51 shows [ 2H,2C ]
Cartman2122 mucks cards [ JD,JC ]
zbigniew51 wins $19,500.
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Another $50 down the drain because 67 s00ted = premium.
ANTES/BLINDS
jasstopc posts small blind ($200), Cartman2122 posts big blind ($400).

PRE-FLOP
jonath77 folds, poker1706 folds, pbalint001 folds, paxifixi1 folds, andre868 bets $1,000, ari187 folds, cgab01 folds, jasstopc folds, Cartman2122 bets $10,215 and is all-in, andre868 calls $3,600 and is all-in.

FLOP [board cards: 9S,3C,6S ]

TURN [board cards: 9S,3C,6S,5H ]


RIVER [board cards: 9S,3C,6S,5H,6D ]

SHOWDOWN
Cartman2122 shows [ AC,KH ]
andre868 shows [ 7H,6H ]
Cartman2122 wins $6,015, andre868 wins $9,400.
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ANTES/BLINDS
aw.eq posts small blind ($25), Palo42 posts big blind ($50).

PRE-FLOP
RaymondKan calls $50, mikael1521 calls $50, Jorge-F.C.B calls $50, Cartman2122 bets $250, aw.eq folds, Palo42 calls $200, RaymondKan bets $2,550 and is all-in, mikael1521 folds, Jorge-F.C.B calls $715 and is all-in, Cartman2122 calls $2,280 and is all-in, Palo42 folds.

FLOP [board cards: 5C,7S,6C ]


TURN [board cards: 5C,7S,6C,AS ]


RIVER [board cards: 5C,7S,6C,AS,2S ]


SHOWDOWN
RaymondKan shows [ 7C,7D ]
Jorge-F.C.B shows [ KS,JC ]
Cartman2122 shows [ QS,QC ]
RaymondKan wins $70, RaymondKan wins $3,530, RaymondKan wins $2,620.
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After copping all that I was nearly reduced to tears after this hand. On the final table for the chip lead. So effing sick.
ANTES/BLINDS
andre868 posts small blind ($800), ari187 posts big blind ($1,600).

PRE-FLOP
demosgr folds, _jansku79_ folds, paxifixi1 folds, jackbrown_x bets $3,200, Cartman2122 calls $3,200, PSGFOREVER70 folds, cgab01 bets $19,100 and is all-in, kalakkis09 folds, andre868 folds, ari187 folds, jackbrown_x calls $9,895 and is all-in, Cartman2122 calls $11,375 and is all-in.

FLOP [board cards: 5D,9S,8C ]

TURN [board cards: 5D,9S,8C,KD ]

RIVER [board cards: 5D,9S,8C,KD,KS ]

SHOWDOWN
cgab01 shows [ KH,KC ]
jackbrown_x shows [ QH,QS ]
Cartman2122 shows [ AH,AS ]
cgab01 wins $4,525, cgab01 wins $2,960, cgab01 wins $41,685.
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Also deep in a tourney for the chip lead.

ANTES/BLINDS
ae066 posts small blind ($200), xavtana posts big blind ($400).

PRE-FLOP
bertito75 folds, AK112 folds, olgatma15 folds, Agonia77 folds, tprekas folds, Naitpac101 folds, Cartman2122 calls $400, ae066 calls $200, xavtana checks.

FLOP [board cards: 3D,4S,JS ]
ae066 checks, xavtana checks, Cartman2122 bets $800, ae066 folds, xavtana bets $2,400, Cartman2122 bets $13,115 and is all-in, xavtana calls $5,970 and is all-in.

TURN [board cards: 3D,4S,JS,5C ]

RIVER [board cards: 3D,4S,JS,5C,9S ]

SHOWDOWN
Cartman2122 shows [ 9C,JC ]
xavtana shows [ 2S,7S ]
Cartman2122 wins $5,545, xavtana wins $17,940.
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And then to finish me off.
ANTES/BLINDS
bertito75 posts small blind ($200), AK112 posts big blind ($400).

PRE-FLOP
olgatma15 bets $1,400, highlyblesed folds, Cartman2122 bets $5,545 and is all-in, ae066 folds, xavtana folds, bertito75 folds, AK112 folds, olgatma15 calls $4,145.

FLOP [board cards: QD,KS,AH ]

TURN [board cards: QD,KS,AH,TS ]


RIVER [board cards: QD,KS,AH,TS,3H ]

SHOWDOWN
Cartman2122 shows [ AC,QS ]
olgatma15 shows [ JH,JC ]
olgatma15 wins $11,690.
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All in the space of 2 hours. Fair to say i'm not going to be playing for a little while. Really need to take a break from this bs. To top it off one of my contacts fell out and I can't find it, really does help with the tilt.
 
Cartman121 said:
What's PokerEV?
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It's a really nice program, does a bunch of stuff.

But in this case, it can look at your PT database, and basically plot a "luck graph". That is, it graphs your "EV winnings" from all-ins, and your "actual winnings" from all-ins. The difference being your luck, or lack thereof, obv.

If also does hand replays with equity automatically included, even for PLO, which is really handy.

edit: d/l here: http://www.pokerevsoftware.com/
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #11464058699: $2 + $0.25 Tournament (85968184), Table 7 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:21:13 ET - 2009/04/02
Seat 2: bagwisson (318,832)
Seat 5: Briderr (141,668)
bagwisson antes 600
Briderr antes 600
bagwisson posts the small blind of 2,500
Briderr posts the big blind of 5,000
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Briderr [Th 3h]
bagwisson raises to 10,000
Briderr calls 5,000
*** FLOP *** [4h Qh 2h]
Briderr bets 131,068, and is all in
bagwisson calls 131,068
Briderr shows [Th 3h]
bagwisson shows [Qs 8d]
*** TURN *** [4h Qh 2h] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [4h Qh 2h Qc] [2c]
Briderr shows a flush, Queen high
bagwisson shows a full house, Queens full of Twos
bagwisson wins the pot (283,336) with a full house, Queens full of Twos
Briderr stands up
bagwisson stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 283,336 | Rake 0
Board: [4h Qh 2h Qc 2c]
Seat 2: bagwisson (small blind) showed [Qs 8d] and won (283,336) with a full house, Queens full of Twos
Seat 5: Briderr (big blind) showed [Th 3h] and lost with a flush, Queen high




GRR!!! cost me 60 bucks ah well still won 100
 
I know this was a freeroll, but seriously J5??!! Are you freaking kidding me???!!!

PokerStars Game #26778379384: Tournament #153461291, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/04/06 0:00:48 PT [2009/04/06 3:00:48 ET]
Table '153461291 163' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: lindalioux (2870 in chips)
Seat 2: dajdah0 (3190 in chips)
Seat 3: betoel17 (3510 in chips)
Seat 4: vasek91 (775 in chips)
Seat 5: atpngp (2640 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: sana-kam (1435 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: OZ Madhouse (1395 in chips)
Seat 8: Danirubio (3980 in chips)
Seat 9: bo$$player14 (1435 in chips) is sitting out
lindalioux: posts small blind 15
dajdah0: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OZ Madhouse [Tc Th]
betoel17: raises 90 to 120
vasek91: folds
atpngp: folds
sana-kam: folds
OZ Madhouse: calls 120
Danirubio: raises 3860 to 3980 and is all-in
bo$$player14: folds
lindalioux: calls 2855 and is all-in
dajdah0: folds
betoel17: calls 3390 and is all-in
OZ Madhouse: calls 1275 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (470) returned to Danirubio
*** FLOP *** [5h 5s 3s]
*** TURN *** [5h 5s 3s] [Jc]
atpngp has returned
*** RIVER *** [5h 5s 3s Jc] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
betoel17: shows [5d Js] (a full house, Fives full of Jacks)
Danirubio: shows [Td Ac] (a pair of Fives)
betoel17 collected 1280 from side pot-2
lindalioux: shows [4c 4s] (two pair, Fives and Fours)
betoel17 collected 4425 from side pot-1
OZ Madhouse: shows [Tc Th] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
betoel17 collected 5610 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11315 Main pot 5610. Side pot-1 4425. Side pot-2 1280. | Rake 0
Board [5h 5s 3s Jc 2s]
Seat 1: lindalioux (small blind) showed [4c 4s] and lost with two pair, Fives and Fours
Seat 2: dajdah0 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: betoel17 showed [5d Js] and won (11315) with a full house, Fives full of Jacks
Seat 4: vasek91 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: atpngp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sana-kam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: OZ Madhouse showed [Tc Th] and lost with two pair, Tens and Fives
Seat 8: Danirubio showed [Td Ac] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 9: bo$$player14 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
Hmm and my bwin account has been blocked for no apparent reason. GREAT! :mad:

Screw bwin, i'm moving to pokerstars.
 

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PokerStars Game #26816914458: Tournament #153949357, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2009/04/07 4:06:27 ET
Table '153949357 5' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: RevItUpRev (13760 in chips)
Seat 2: yo nightmare (25317 in chips)
Seat 3: Lou Page (18313 in chips)
Seat 4: penni1968 (2584 in chips)
Seat 5: barbadardo (5260 in chips)
Seat 7: armadilo_PL (10090 in chips)
Seat 8: briderr10 (4797 in chips)
RevItUpRev: posts the ante 25
yo nightmare: posts the ante 25
Lou Page: posts the ante 25
penni1968: posts the ante 25
barbadardo: posts the ante 25
armadilo_PL: posts the ante 25
briderr10: posts the ante 25
briderr10: posts small blind 150
RevItUpRev: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to briderr10 [Qh Qd]
yo nightmare: calls 300
Lou Page: folds
penni1968: folds
barbadardo: folds
armadilo_PL: raises 600 to 900
briderr10: raises 900 to 1800
RevItUpRev: calls 1500
yo nightmare: folds
armadilo_PL: folds
*** FLOP *** [9d 6d Qs]
briderr10: bets 2972 and is all-in
RevItUpRev: calls 2972
*** TURN *** [9d 6d Qs] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [9d 6d Qs 7h] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
briderr10: shows [Qh Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
RevItUpRev: shows [5d Ad] (a straight, Five to Nine)
RevItUpRev collected 10919 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10919 | Rake 0
Board [9d 6d Qs 7h 8h]
Seat 1: RevItUpRev (big blind) showed [5d Ad] and won (10919) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 2: yo nightmare folded before Flop
Seat 3: Lou Page folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: penni1968 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: barbadardo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: armadilo_PL (button) folded before Flop
Seat 8: briderr10 (small blind) showed [Qh Qd] and lost with three of a kind, Queens

was kinda short stacked so had to this
ok fair enough a flush draw beating me, but the god damn turn and river... CMON grr
 
King ****ing Jack has to be the worst hand to ever ****ing be invented in the history of poker.

I've lost count of the number of times I've been called after I've shoved with decent hands, only to ****ing be beaten by KJ..... Happens far too many ****ing times.

/rant over
 
I had a MASSIVE vent at bwin in an email, they usually take about 5 days to respond to any emails. I heard back from them within 2 hours and my account should be unblocked within a few hours. :D

I realised why my account was blocked as well. On bwin you can view your account movements and I noticed that there were some cash game losses that I couldn't account for, it was only ever small amounts but it was like ten $3 buy-ins lost in the space of 10 minutes. I looked over my entire history and this came up a number of times, it only added up to about $100 but I couldn't explain it. I rarely play cash games and when I do it's never for $3 or $2 so I would remember it. It was obvious something was up when I checked it one day and that same day only hours before $10 had been lost in cash game... I hadn't been playing. They told me to change my password on my email adress and change my account password to something less easy to crack. And to search my computer for viruses and malicous software. Have no idea what the conclusion was as they can never tell you but looks like they found something.

Seeing how it's the vent thread I guess I have to vent at something. I vent at not being able to play poker tonight! :mad:
 
fantastic_crows said:
King ****ing Jack has to be the worst hand to ever ****ing be invented in the history of poker.

I've lost count of the number of times I've been called after I've shoved with decent hands, only to ****ing be beaten by KJ..... Happens far too many ****ing times.

/rant over
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^^ I think there's supposed to be a video in there somewhere...I love Tony.

If you wanna post a video on the page;

There is a youtube tags, just post the really weird letters and numbers (bolded section)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1I55z-x6zc

Then wrap those letters and numbers in the youtube tags
 

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Cartman121 said:
^^ I think there's supposed to be a video in there somewhere...I love Tony.

If you wanna post a video on the page;

There is a youtube tags, just post the really weird letters and numbers (bolded section)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1I55z-x6zc

Then wrap those letters and numbers in the youtube tags
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Working now, thanks mate :thumbsu:
 
Was just playing a tournament on PokerStars.. table of 9, already had some bad beats but none could top this one. I was very short stacked down to 1700 on the button with blinds at 600/1200. I have KA. Under the gun goes all in with 2700, I am all in with my 1700, big blind with chip stack of 16000 calls.

Under the gun has ATs, big blind has 52 off suit

Flop... 2 5 5

Thanks for playing
 
ThomasR said:
Was just playing a tournament on PokerStars.. table of 9, already had some bad beats but none could top this one. I was very short stacked down to 1700 on the button with blinds at 600/1200. I have KA. Under the gun goes all in with 2700, I am all in with my 1700, big blind with chip stack of 16000 calls.

Under the gun has ATs, big blind has 52 off suit

Flop... 2 5 5

Thanks for playing
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AK is a 45% favourite to win that hand.

[ ] a bad beat
[x] a bit unlucky
[x] unless you lost the previous hand whilst all in, you shouldn't be sitting in a tournament with 1.5 BB's
 

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