Things that please me - Part 5

[Chief]

Part 6 is over there:

Things that please me - Part 6

We got upgraded from premium economy to business class on a MEL > LA flight back when V Australia was quite new, so we weren't loyal customers or anything. They didn't even tell us we'd been upgraded, they were just profusely apologising that their pyjama supplier hadn't delivered and we...

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[troybe]

How long until PC Snowflake decides to find a new career? I give it 6 months

 

[Shell]

Oh yes how outrageous it went to court.

Maybe get outraged about all the rapes and sexual assaults that dont make it to court. Not this crap.

 

[Cuzz09]

She needs to keep entertained while out with her knee



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[phantom13]

How long until PC Snowflake decides to find a new career? I give it 6 months

I strongly suspect that his union rep convinced him to pursue the claim and hell be on stress leave with full pay in no time.

Oh yes how outrageous it went to court.

Maybe get outraged about all the rapes and sexual assaults that dont make it to court. Not this crap.

I think one begets the other. Why the **** is something so innocuous and frankly stupid wasting 5 or 6 days of court time while serious crimes barely have time for invesitgations?

The baseline of this case was that a cab driver wrongfully imprisoned two vulnerable women, yet the case was about her abusing a cop. The judge in this case even noted that Sams behaviour contributed to the situation whilst making no comment on how the cab driver basically abducting them did.

Its almost a microcosm of the larger issue.

 

[cats_09]

I strongly suspect that his union rep convinced him to pursue the claim and hell be on stress leave with full pay in no time.

I think one begets the other. Why the **** is something so innocuous and frankly stupid wasting 5 or 6 days of court time while serious crimes barely have time for invesitgations?

The baseline of this case was that a cab driver wrongfully imprisoned two vulnerable women, yet the case was about her abusing a cop. The judge in this case even noted that Sams behaviour contributed to the situation whilst making no comment on how the cab driver basically abducting them did.

Its almost a microcosm of the larger issue.

I think you're right about the union rep involvement - this timeline is rather telling on how it played out

In his first statement to the CPS, the officer made no mention of the "stupid and white" comment having an impact on him, the jury was told.

A second statement from PC Lovell was provided in December 2023, mentioning the alleged impact...

...The charge was authorised later in December 2023, almost a year after the incident.

I'm not sure where the following came from but it's a screenshot I've seen shared a few times and he's comment in this is pretty off - doubt either Kerr or Mewis knew the taxi driver was taking them to the police station when he first locked them in the taxi






1st quote,

 

[Shell]

I strongly suspect that his union rep convinced him to pursue the claim and hell be on stress leave with full pay in no time.

I think one begets the other. Why the **** is something so innocuous and frankly stupid wasting 5 or 6 days of court time while serious crimes barely have time for invesitgations?

The baseline of this case was that a cab driver wrongfully imprisoned two vulnerable women, yet the case was about her abusing a cop. The judge in this case even noted that Sams behaviour contributed to the situation whilst making no comment on how the cab driver basically abducting them did.

Its almost a microcosm of the larger issue.

Yeah imprisoned. Rightio

 

[phantom13]

Yeah imprisoned. Rightio

They were locked in a car against their will. Sure the cabby told them he was going to the cops but why would you believe him in that circumstance.

It’s sort of the definition of it unless you think the cab driver had just cause.

 

[Shell]

They were locked in a car against their will. Sure the cabby told them he was going to the cops but why would you believe him in that circumstance.

It’s sort of the definition of it unless you think the cab driver had just cause.

So the driver should be charged with kidnapping or false imprisonment

They were a pair of drunk campaigners. End of

 

[phantom13]

So the driver should be charged with kidnapping or false imprisonment

They were a pair of drunk campaigners. End of

My point was more that if there was no charge for that there certainly shouldn’t be a charge for calling the cop stupid and white. He should have known the law and read the room and maybe listened to the two intoxicated, vulnerable women who got locked in a cab.

The whole situation should have been dealt with in about 10 minutes at the station.

I suppose we can label any woman who’s drunk and claims a crime was committed against them a “drunk campaigner”?

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Lots of women (including drunk ones but not always) have scary experiences with cabbies.

From the body cam footage the cop had zero interest in listening to them, nor did he even speak to the cab driver himself. It was a stitch up.

 

[Shell]

I suppose we can label any woman who’s drunk and claims a crime was committed against them a “drunk campaigner”?

In this case, yes I will.


You going to act like a ****ing idiot, spew up in cabs, smash windows, don't ****ing drink too much.

 

[Shell]

Lots of women (including drunk ones but not always) have scary experiences with cabbies.

Not saying they dont

 

[Frank Bunn]

They were locked in a car against their will. Sure the cabby told them he was going to the cops but why would you believe him in that circumstance.

It’s sort of the definition of it unless you think the cab driver had just cause.

Strange that the cabbie wasn't called to give evidence. Kerr's was defence that after she vomited in his cab that he drove around like a crazy person, making her feel like she was being kidnapped by a serial killer. Hence her emotional remarks to the copper, and making her the victim rather than a drunken, gobby flog that we saw on the video. The cabbie could have verified or refuted this story. But he was never called.

 

[Pistol Night]

Strange that the cabbie wasn't called to give evidence. Kerr's was defence that after she vomited in his cab that he drove around like a crazy person, making her feel like she was being kidnapped by a serial killer. Hence her emotional remarks to the copper, and making her the victim rather than a drunken, gobby flog that we saw on the video. The cabbie could have verified or refuted this story. But he was never called.

Its absolutely bizarre that he wasn't called on. The whole case was based on this. Just a shit show from start to finish

 

[Gough]

Strange that the cabbie wasn't called to give evidence. Kerr's was defence that after she vomited in his cab that he drove around like a crazy person, making her feel like she was being kidnapped by a serial killer. Hence her emotional remarks to the copper, and making her the victim rather than a drunken, gobby flog that we saw on the video. The cabbie could have verified or refuted this story. But he was never called.

I wonder if anything came up when they looked into his background that might have compromised him as a witness.

 

[phantom13]

Strange that the cabbie wasn't called to give evidence. Kerr's was defence that after she vomited in his cab that he drove around like a crazy person, making her feel like she was being kidnapped by a serial killer. Hence her emotional remarks to the copper, and making her the victim rather than a drunken, gobby flog that we saw on the video. The cabbie could have verified or refuted this story. But he was never called.

I don’t think it’s all that strange tbh.

The cabby’s not likely to admit to detaining them that and the prosecution wouldn’t have wanted him cross examined given it would have been pretty easy to incriminate himself.

 

[the_interloper]

Its absolutely bizarre that he wasn't called on. The whole case was based on this. Just a shit show from start to finish

Absolute shit show. Gonna be interesting if Football Australia remove her from the Matildas captaincy, I think they should, but I don't think they will.

 

[phantom13]

Absolute shit show. Gonna be interesting if Football Australia remove her from the Matildas captaincy, I think they should, but I don't think they will.

Why do you think they should? She just got found not guilty?

What grounds would they have?

I’m not having a go at you here btw, I’m genuinely curious what the logic is here

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

This article sums it up for me

‘It’s f***ing scary’: How full 34-min police tape changed my mind on Sam Kerr saga — Comment

‘It’s f***ing scary’: How full 34-min police tape changed my mind on Kerr — Comment

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[the_interloper]

Why do you think they should? She just got found not guilty?

What grounds would they have?

I’m not having a go at you here btw, I’m genuinely curious what the logic is here

Well I imagine the sponsors would take a dim view of the Matildas captain carrying on like this and it being so public. And found not guilty of course, I'm not sure why it went to court anyway but even if it didn't I think it's still a shocking look.

I think if Pat Cummins acted like this he'd definitely get the Test captaincy taken off him no problems (and rightly so).

 

[phantom13]

Well I imagine the sponsors would take a dim view of the Matildas captain carrying on like this and it being so public. And found not guilty of course, I'm not sure why it went to court anyway but even if it didn't I think it's still a shocking look.

I think if Pat Cummins acted like this he'd definitely get the Test captaincy taken off him no problems (and rightly so).

Pat Cummins publically admonished Alinta gas, the major sponsor at the time, and didn’t get stripped so I’m not sure the “sponsor” argument holds much weight.

I guess you could argue bringing the game into disrepute but on a global scale for a global game, this barely cracks the top thousand in terms of scale. Unless we’re setting vastly different behavioural standards for men and women soccer players I can’t see how this stacks up personally.

 

[the_interloper]

Pat Cummins publically admonished Alinta gas, the major sponsor at the time, and didn’t get stripped so I’m not sure the “sponsor” argument holds much weight.

I guess you could argue bringing the game into disrepute but on a global scale for a global game, this barely cracks the top thousand in terms of scale. Unless we’re setting vastly different behavioural standards for men and women soccer players I can’t see how this stacks up personally.

Yeah fair point about the Alinta thing. And maybe using Cummins as an example is not equivalent anyway, in cricket the captain is also basically the coach, maybe they wouldn't give him the arse.

In the end the absolute gun players tend to get treated differently anyway, if it was a fringe Matilda player they might come down on them harder, who knows? In the end I predict she'll stay captain anyway.

 

[phantom13]

Yeah fair point about the Alinta thing. And maybe using Cummins as an example is not equivalent anyway, in cricket the captain is also basically the coach, maybe they wouldn't give him the arse.

In the end the absolute gun players tend to get treated differently anyway, if it was a fringe Matilda player they might come down on them harder, who knows? In the end I predict she'll stay captain anyway.

I think, putting aside my personal opinion about it and her, women’s football would be absolutely insane to alienate most of their female fans by punishing a player who went through what Sam did.

Read the article MEB posted above. I’d suggest that’s a pretty good representation of the female view of the incident (noting no one person is ever going to capture a whole gender).

 

[Frank Bunn]

I don’t think it’s all that strange tbh.

The cabby’s not likely to admit to detaining them that and the prosecution wouldn’t have wanted him cross examined given it would have been pretty easy to incriminate himself.

It's a fairly common scenario. Witnesses who are in danger of incriminating themselves are given immunity from prosecution.

As far as I know, no complaint was made against the cabbie. Kerr transferred some money to him to pay for the damage to his taxi, which suggests she felt she and her partner were culpable.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Beach today with was great .
Meet Harry Irish wolf hound big gendle gaint.

Looked abit like this .