To All EFC Members wanting to challenge the board to have Sheed's reinstated.....

[stander]

Where were the accolades in this thread?

You had a perfect opportunity to provide your reasoning behind supporting the boards decision.

Yet you took a pot shot at Gary O'Donnell who failed to perform a task that was delegated to him. One that in the end worked in our favour.

You're not balancing the ledger at all, you're being subjective. I understand not everyone likes Kevin Sheedy, I understand people are happy he isn't coaching next season, I too support the boards decision.

But your being critical for the sake of being critical. There is a big difference in providing balanced reasoning and taking random pot shots. What you said has no place in this thread and by no means justifies the boards decision.

Cute.

And I didn't.

Your making a habit of taking pot shots yourself.

If you can't see that a glaringly poor decision by the head coach and assistant validates the Boards decision to some extent, and I reiterate, to some extent, then you are more pigeon holed than I thought.

 

[Don Envy]

Surely if an EGM is called and the board is outed then it was not a "minority" of disgruntled supporters rather a "majority". Reading thru' all of this, it's pretty easy to see who agrees with the decision and who doesn't.

Sacking Sheedy is not just another coach sacking, it's a pretty significant event in the club's history and I think if some members feel strongly enough to want to challenge it before it's too late, then they have that right. If the "majority" disagree, then that'll come out at the meeting.

There are lots of reasons being thrown around here such as repsect the board, unity, great club etc., etc. but most of them all boil down to whether you agree with the decision or not. I am an unabashd Sheedy fan and find it interesting that we could have had this exact same discussion back at the end of 1997 when blood was being called for - and would have possibly missed 2000! I don't believe in change for the sake of change. Is there anyone out there better at this stage? If so, then why are other clubs reportedly talking to Sheeds for their club? I'm happy to let it play out for the moment and listen to any arguments and then decide if an EGM is called.

Don't you think it's too late? The worst thing the club could do now was go back on what has already happened. They would look like the biggest pack of gutless wonders put on this earth if they were to bow to pressure from the members of the club who voted for them to make such decisions in the first place. We'd be the laughing stock of the AFL for years.

Go turn on the talkback radio and listen to supporters from other clubs ringing up and saying how good it is that the almighty Essendon have turned on each other.

Thanks a f**cking lot you morons who wont accept the decision the elected board has made and move on. You don't have to like what's happened, but you don't have to f**k it up by causing divisions amongst supporters.

 

[adamcf]

Norm Smith all over again..

 

[eastaugh36]

And I hope the new Coach comes in and wins the premiership next year and stick it right up everyone...

The board will be praying we don't go downhill. Now that would be egg on the face material.

 

[Don Envy]

I've brushed over this thread a little but read a fair bit and this seems to be the most common sense view so far. Ant had a few good things to say as well.

It never ceases to amaze me at the courage people display on these forums when they are on the other side of a computer screen that can't act in retaliation.

I have only read the herald sun article, however as far as I can see this group have sought out the thoughts of essendon fans to help them make the decision whether to act or not.

Another point I would like people to comment on is this:

* most people, it seems, agree the recruiting over recent years has been sub par. so if Sheeds gets the team to a prelim has he not done a brilliant job given the talent? and if yes are you not excited about what he could acheive given this years crop of recruits?

I'll gladly step up to anyone, anywhere and anytime to defend my football club - and trust me it doesn't have to be behind the safety of a computer screen. The point of starting this thread is that I'm concerned about the destabilising effects so called members are creating through their actions.

 

[adamcf]

I'll gladly step up to anyone, anywhere and anytime to defend my football club - and trust me it doesn't have to be behind the safety of a computer screen. The point of starting this thread is that I'm concerned about the destabilising effects so called members are creating through their actions.

Here, here Don. A decision needed to be made. It was. Both, in the best interests of the club and coach.. Now get on with life.

Let's see Sheeds off the way he would want it and move forward with whoever they choose to coach the team.

BTW.. Good luck to Sheeds if he coaches elsewhere and whatever he decides to do.

This alleged destablisation may lead to him never coming back, so, be careful to those ppl who feel that the board need to go and Sheeds needs to be reinstated.. cos there's a likelyhood that that won't happen.

 

[DannyJames13]

I'll gladly step up to anyone, anywhere and anytime to defend my football club - and trust me it doesn't have to be behind the safety of a computer screen. The point of starting this thread is that I'm concerned about the destabilising effects so called members are creating through their actions.

Hey mate, this was not directed at you. I think you provided a fair point. Which from my experience with business has prooved valid time and again, but invlaid to a large degree on occasion as well. anyway If you were to respond to my question I would be more interested in what you had to say about my last point.

 

[Don Envy]

Here, here Don. A decision needed to be made. It was. Both, in the best interests of the club and coach.. Now get on with life.

Let's see Sheeds off the way he would want it and move forward with whoever they choose to coach the team.

BTW.. Good luck to Sheeds if he coaches elsewhere and whatever he decides to do.

This alleged destablisation may lead to him never coming back, so, be careful to those ppl who feel that the board need to go and Sheeds needs to be reinstated.. cos there's a likelyhood that that won't happen.

Hope you've read my previous posts in this thread, couldn't agree with you more. That's the message I'm trying to send to others who aren't happy with the decision.

 

[Don Envy]

Hey mate, this was not directed at you. I think you provided a fair point. Which from my experience with business has prooved valid time and again, but invlaid to a large degree on occasion as well. anyway If you were to respond to my question I would be more interested in what you had to say about my last point.

Sorry about that, I'm not really a violent person, just someone who's very passionate about my footy club and I don't want this situation turning into the bloodbath you often see at clubs like Richmond and Carlton. We have a very strong club off the field, I just don't want to see that jeopardised by those with person agendas.

At the end of the day we're all on the same side, we just have different opinions on what's best for it.

 

[stander]

The board will be praying we don't go downhill. Now that would be egg on the face material.

There thinking wasn't limited to re-appointing Sheedy on the basis of finals this year. A lower postion next year won't govern their performance appraisal of the new head coach, and his able assistants. A new era descends on the Dons. Magnificent.

 

[adamcf]

Sorry about that, I'm not really a violent person, just someone who's very passionate about my footy club and I don't want this situation turning into the bloodbath you often see at clubs like Richmond and Carlton. We have a very strong club off the field, I just don't want to see that jeopardised by those with person agendas.

At the end of the day we're all on the same side, we just have different opinions on what's best for it.

Don.. Logic should play no part here.

 

[Longy413]

Your making a habit of taking pot shots yourself.

I always make the effort to explain myself. You don't.

If you can't see that a glaringly poor decision by the head coach and assistant validates the Boards decision to some extent, and I reiterate, to some extent, then you are more pigeon holed than I thought.

To some extent?

To a minuscule extent.

Again, I agree with the decision. But not because they left Laycock in the ruck, who was doing a good job.

But your comment was nothing but a poor attempt to again discredit Kevin Sheedy. We could dig up a number of things that happened on Sunday that could support Sheedy's tender continuing.

Like the fact that we had 10 players with less than 50 games experience. Compared to Adelaide 7.

Like the fact that we are in the 8 and heading upwards with a young list, having won three times more games than we did last season with that young list.

Like the fact that he moved Mark Johnson forward in the last quarter, who made a big impact.

Like the confidence he showed in Slattery to leave him on Burton, Slattery making a big impact in the last quarter.

You took a pot shot, an invalid one.

Good decision yes, validated, not even close.

 

[eb075]

Thanks a f**cking lot you morons who wont accept the decision the elected board has made and move on. You don't have to like what's happened, but you don't have to f**k it up by causing divisions amongst supporters.

And why do you have to be so abusive to others simply because they don't agree with YOU! You sound more like the type of supporter you're trying to tell (force) us not to be with your language.

Apart from great coaching, I believe the time with Sheedy has been one of elevating Essendon to one of (if not the) premier club in the comp. We've been innovative with things that have been copied by other clubs as well as being a class club - that is, rarely if ever are our players the ones in the headlines for public fighting, drug taking etc. It is NO coincidence that is has co-incided with the time that Sheedy has been here. So, as I said, there is more than just a coach at stake and, IF there was something obviously better, I'd say fine let's do it, but it's ludicrous to do it JUST because we CAN do it.

Isn't it ironic, that all the great things about our club that many are pleading not to give up, have been brought about during the time of the man your ready to dump - for no good reason?

 

[DannyJames13]

Sorry about that, I'm not really a violent person, just someone who's very passionate about my footy club and I don't want this situation turning into the bloodbath you often see at clubs like Richmond and Carlton. We have a very strong club off the field, I just don't want to see that jeopardised by those with person agendas.

At the end of the day we're all on the same side, we just have different opinions on what's best for it.

I agree with you there,had my brother say Bugger Essendon, how could they, but that was an intitial reaction(come to his senses shortly after) we are both essendon through and through.

 

[ant555]

I'm sure the board felt some vindication for their decison when they found out Sheedy and O'Donnell had no idea which ruckman was supposed to be on the ground in the last quarter. Very poor internal controls.

There has been a number of times this year that i have said during a game that someone had better go up to the coachs box and make sure they hadnt fallen asleep.
Sometimes i have wondered if they where siting up there with a little blanket on their laps and just having a little snooze after polishing off the thermous of soup

 

[Bomber57]

The board was elected to act in the best interests of it's members, and yes, sometimes at first there decisions may not be seen to be in the best interests of it;s members.

I myself am a fan of the great Mr Sheedy and I am very sure that he will come out of this very well in the end, maybe Sheeds will run in the next elections.

But at the end of the day we will always be able to take action with a swipe/X of a pen, so lets leave our anger till then and not air our dirty linen out in public anymore, this GREAT club and it's members are better than that, aren't we!

 

[Crave]

Last thing we need is our club dissolving into a Carlton or Richmond. While Ray & co. have their work cut out for them winning back supporter's approval, our safety net is most Victorian clubs are envious of our strong foundation and viability as a business as well as a football/sports club.

For the record, Id be filthy is a handful of nuff nuffs wish to upset the apple cart and incidently, I hope Sheeds does go on and coach at another club....would satisfy our curiosity in playing against a coach held in such high regards by many in the AFL and national community.

 

[Woody80]

Pi$$ Off.

Our board was elected by members to make such decisions, not you. If you don't like what they have done, then don't vote for them at election time.

We are not Carlton or Richmond and if you want to unstabilise the club, go and barrack for one of those teams, you're likely to find more people there who agree with your course of action.

Not everyone will agree with the board's decision, but like the players, try and embrace it. Your actions will only cause factions which will destory years of off field stability built at this great club.

For the sake of this club's long term future, leave things alone.

Good on you mate dont pick on Richmond Sheedy has been great for you guys have some respect

 

[stander]

I always make the effort to explain myself. You don't.
To some extent?

To a minuscule extent.

Again, I agree with the decision. But not because they left Laycock in the ruck, who was doing a good job.

But your comment was nothing but a poor attempt to again discredit Kevin Sheedy. We could dig up a number of things that happened on Sunday that could support Sheedy's tender continuing.
Like the fact that we had 10 players with less than 50 games experience. Compared to Adelaide 7.

Like the fact that we are in the 8 and heading upwards with a young list, having won three times more games than we did last season with that young list.

Like the fact that he moved Mark Johnson forward in the last quarter, who made a big impact.

Like the confidence he showed in Slattery to leave him on Burton, Slattery making a big impact in the last quarter.

You took a pot shot, an invalid one.

Good decision yes, validated, not even close.

Some can use language that requires little explanation- try to be more succinct.

The Board have made a decsion that rejects the accidental coaching that sometimes pays off, in contrast to your -they can do no wrong attitude.

I don't know if you realise it, but you have just about written Sheedys epitaph with some of those other comments. Mark Johnson to the forward line was a move, as many would concur, about 18 months too late, and you so readily hand out the accolade, that I alluded to in a previous post.

And you omitted to mention the best of all, Mr. Surly Supecharger. Poor old Kepler Bradley just wanted one more chance at a career at Windy Hill, and they played him in the back line.

Validated to some extent by the goings on of Sunday? Most definitely.

And there is a lot more that the members will never know.

 

[eastaugh36]

Some can use language that requires little explanation- try to be more succinct.

The Board have made a decsion that rejects the accidental coaching that sometimes pays off, in contrast to your -they can do no wrong attitude.

I don't know if you realise it, but you have just about written Sheedys epitaph with some of those other comments. Mark Johnson to the forward line was a move, as many would concur, about 18 months too late, and you so readily hand out the accolade, that I alluded to in a previous post.

And you omitted to mention the best of all, Mr. Surly Supecharger. Poor old Kepler Bradley just wanted one more chance at a career at Windy Hill, and they played him in the back line.

Validated to some extent by the goings on of Sunday? Most definitely.

And there is a lot more that the members will never know.

Lay off Sheeds FFS

 

[stander]

There has been a number of times this year that i have said during a game that someone had better go up to the coachs box and make sure they hadnt fallen asleep.
Sometimes i have wondered if they where siting up there with a little blanket on their laps and just having a little snooze after polishing off the thermous of soup

Some of the attention to detail that is needed to be successful has definitely tapered away Ant robus, and you have already mentioned about 15 previously. Some don't see the malaise creeping in.

A little cat nap normally freshens you up in the mid afternoon, as you would know, at your age. Perhaps there has been something a bit stronger in the thermos, in the coaches box ??

 

[stander]

Lay off Sheeds FFS

Do you drink Southwark ?

 

[DarthTed]

TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THOSE REMARKS..

ALL BOMBER FANS GET BEHIND THIS GROUP TO GET PHAT PIG HORESBOROUGH OUT OF THE JOINT, AND RE-INSTATE SHEEDE'S..

LONG LIVE KEV HE IS THE MAIN REASON WHY WE ARE NOT A CARLTON/TIGERS RABBLE, THERE IS STILL TIME DONS FANS!!

Have you even thought about the ramifications of that course of action at all? Will cause problems at the club and will not bring Sheeds back.

 

[DarthTed]

And you dont belive that Sheeds was looking that far ahead at all? I think all coaches are constantly planning for the years ahead.
That is a rather weak excuse in my opinion and if that is the actual reason (which I doubt) what gives them that opinion?

It's not whether Sheeds was looking that far ahead, it came down to the fact that the board wanted someone in place that can both develop the list and be around to lead them when they are ready to challenge for the premiership again. The board didn't think Sheeds was the right man for the job so decided to make a change, pretty simple really.

 

[DarthTed]

I reckon it would have been classier to hold the cards a little closer and line someone up on the side.

How is it classier to be going behind Sheeds's back and replace him before he has even been told that he's out?