To snag a flag, are we better off losing to Geelong in the QF?

[Gone Critical]

What a year, as Ralph Fiennes might say "Its like a fairytale"

Things have rolled our way and maybe that will continue long enough to snag a flag. Are we the best list? Lets make the irrelevent for the moment. Truth is the AFL finals series pays little heed to fairness. The fact that the top 4 teams start the finals with an equal chance of winning the flag is patently wrong in a comp that should reward finishing on top. Its been made worse since the finals week off came in which has taken away one of the advantages the QF winners had of a week off while others continued to play. Now the QF winner had a disadvantaged compared to their PF opponent going week off, week on week off while the other has the perfect prep of week off then 2 games leading into the PF. No coach would advocate 2 weeks off in 3 as a good prep for the PF.

Has this changed anything? Well in the 10 years prior to the chance 18 out out 20 (90%) of QF winners won their PF. Since the change 5 of 12 (41%) of QF winners have won their PF. Losing the QF wont help our chances of a good finals campaign but it might enhance the chance of actually winning the flag. My answer is yes

 

[JoinDate]

I have us losing our first match against Geelong then beating Freo and Melb to meet Geelong in the Grand Final again. (Did I just do a Kirby ?)

I think their forwardline and backline will prove too much for whoever they meet in the grand final. It's theirs to lose imvho.

 

[Doc1763]

We need someone to knock Geelong out for us.

 

[mwhop]

Which teams do people think we are very unlikely to beat, and really need them to be knocked out by others?

 

[Bruz Maynard]

We need someone to knock Geelong out for us.

Richmond should do the job against Geelong in the PF, assuming we lose the QF

 

[No SPIN]

What a year, as Ralph Fines might say "Its like a fairytale"

Things have rolled our way and maybe that will continue long enough to snag a flag. Are we the best list? Lets make the irrelevent for the moment. Truth is the AFL finals series pays little heed to fairness. The fact that the top 4 teams start the finals with an equal chance of winning the flag is patently wrong in a comp that should reward finishing on top. Its been made worse since the finals week off came in which has taken away one of the advantages the QF winners had of a week off while others continued to play. Now the QF winner had a disadvantaged compared to their PF opponent going week off, week on week off while the other has the perfect prep of week off then 2 games leading into the PF. No coach would advocate 2 weeks off in 3 as a good prep for the PF.

Has this changed anything? Well in the 10 years prior to the chance 18 out out 20 (90%) of QF winners won their PF. Since the change 5 of 12 (41%) of QF winners have won their PF. Losing the QF wont help our chances of a good finals campaign but it might enhance the chance of actually winning the flag. My answer is yes

Geel with its older list would benefit from 2 games in 4 weeks.
Selwood and Danger etc will not be able to cope with 4 games if they lose the QF.

So if Geel are the big threat then I’d say it’s best we win and then let them hobble into a GF exhausted after a 4 game stretch.

 

[Wearmouth]

No. Take your shot at them now. Knock them off their horse and force them over to the Dreamons side.

You have to beat them anyways. Beating them first up and making them question themselves along with having to go through the other side of the draw and possibly get knocked out is far better. And if they do make it through. They have to play tough games.

While we’ll get an interstate team in a PF and hopefully a better shot at making the GF.

Losing first up and then trying to get through the other side and hopefully meeting them in the GF won’t be easier.

You take your chances when they arise.


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[Wearmouth]

No. Take your shot at them now. Knock them off their horse and force them over to the Dreamons side.

You have to beat them anyways. Beating them first up and making them question themselves along with having to go through the other side of the draw and possibly get knocked out is far better. And if they do make it through. They have to play tough games.

While we’ll get an interstate team in a PF and hopefully a better shot at making the GF.

Losing first up and then trying to get through the other side and hopefully meeting them in the GF won’t be easier.

You take your chances when they arise.


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[sideswipe]

What a year, as Ralph Fines might say "Its like a fairytale"

Things have rolled our way and maybe that will continue long enough to snag a flag. Are we the best list? Lets make the irrelevent for the moment. Truth is the AFL finals series pays little heed to fairness. The fact that the top 4 teams start the finals with an equal chance of winning the flag is patently wrong in a comp that should reward finishing on top. Its been made worse since the finals week off came in which has taken away one of the advantages the QF winners had of a week off while others continued to play. Now the QF winner had a disadvantaged compared to their PF opponent going week off, week on week off while the other has the perfect prep of week off then 2 games leading into the PF. No coach would advocate 2 weeks off in 3 as a good prep for the PF.

Has this changed anything? Well in the 10 years prior to the chance 18 out out 20 (90%) of QF winners won their PF. Since the change 5 of 12 (41%) of QF winners have won their PF. Losing the QF wont help our chances of a good finals campaign but it might enhance the chance of actually winning the flag. My answer is yes

This is a special level of demented idiocy, even from you. If someone from the AMA reads this, you might just lose your ticket.

12 does not provide a sufficient sample size, especially when 2020 Covid gets thrown in as another variable. Going from QF into a PF is the way to go.

And it is Geelong. And Fiennes.

My God, you are a disappointment.

 

[pablo disco bar]

We will beat Geelong

 

[Big Bryza]

We need someone to knock Geelong out for us.

Let's just do it ourselves.

 

[VinnieB]

Can’t see us losing another game from here

 

[Big Bryza]

Which teams do people think we are very unlikely to beat, and really need them to be knocked out by others?

In all honesty our 2 worst matchups are Doggies and the Tiges.

Be cheering hard for Brisbane and Freo next weekend.

 

[Gone Critical]

This is a special level of demented idiocy, even from you. If someone from the AMA reads this, you might just lose your ticket.

12 does not provide a sufficient sample size, especially when 2020 Covid gets thrown in as another variable. Going from QF into a PF is the way to go.

And it is Geelong. And Fiennes.

My God, you are a disappointment.

Medical trials get shut down early before significance is reached when the results are lopsided and to carry on the trial would be to risk more adverse events. The ethics board would shut this down immediately to prevent further damage

 

[Vicky Park]

Let’s win every game. We can control that, and as Fly would say, not worry about what else is going on.

We are currently living ‘in’ the heads of every other finals team. That is our own special magic. The atmosphere at the G was electric on Sunday when we came at Carlton. You could feel the change in the air. The Carlton fans were literally terrified. Did their players feel it too? Absolutely.

 

[Gone Critical]

Its not a question of which teams we play its the disadvantage of only playing 1 game in 3 weeks which appears to have hobbled the chances of the QF winner to win the PF. even on small numbers a change from 90% to 41 % should raise alarm bells.

You have to win the PF to continue and our best route will be lose to Geel, beat Freo/Dogs and then line up against Syd/melb who hopefully have lost their edge a lttle through inactivity while we are cherry ripe after a rest then 2 games

 

[The Ghost of the KPF]

Who the hell are Gellong?

 

[Couch Coach]

This is a special level of demented idiocy, even from you. If someone from the AMA reads this, you might just lose your ticket.

12 does not provide a sufficient sample size, especially when 2020 Covid gets thrown in as another variable. Going from QF into a PF is the way to go.

And it is Geelong. And Fiennes.

My God, you are a disappointment.

That's not a sideswipe that's a full on punch in the face!

 

[Gone Critical]

That's not a sideswipe that's a full on punch in the face!

You need to know the deliverer to understand that punch is not a concern.

 

[Gone Critical]

I still want to win this week no question but losing the match can have an upside. Remember the 2018 PF, what a day

 

[sideswipe]

You need to know the deliverer to understand that punch is not a concern.

Why not take it a step further and ask yourself how often in the last 6 years did a Qualifying Final loser win the flag? Once.

 

[Doc1763]

Let's just do it ourselves.

We can beat them week 1, then Freo or the Dogs can knock them out.

 

[ipswichpies]

I think we are in a stronger position to beat Geelong now than when fluffed it earlier on,they are stronger now and have great form but they have had no one challenge them.

I still think our close matches stand us in better stead than if we were winning by 10 gls every week, I tell you now if Geelong has to beat Richmond I do not think they will I said 4 wks ago I am worried more about the Tigers than anyone else including the Swans who beat us but I do not think can at the G,

I think the best thing we have going for us this year is Mr Wade and his ability at getting us so fit I don,t feel like we have hit the wall at any stage since halfway through the season, the Carlton match only reinforces this they played 1 qtr and may have stolen the match but they could not contain us in the end,

 

[nahnah]

We will win every final by 10 goals

 

[cakewalk06]

In short.. No