Mega Thread Trade and List Management discussion

[Mofra]

I understand they are different. But regardless they can't all play together if you assume Daniel will go past them both.

It's not that I don't think we can play 3 of them - I just don't think we can play 5 or 6 of them if you consider Dahlhaus and Mclean best 22 players (I do from 2016) and consider JJ & Clay Smith are smallish types in AFL terms.

Bailey Dale, Prudden, Hamilton & Libba are also shorter than 6 foot - some play different positions but if Wally is resting forward this year Libba may rest forward next year.

I really do think Hrovat is AFL standard but if we get something good in return, well you have to give quality to get quality.

 

[fronkalicious]

I struggle to see how honeychurch sticks in the league unfortunately. Hope I'm wrong. Love his 'tude.

 

[King Harold]

I have questions on Watts fragility also. But I ask you, which of the two is potentially a match winner? I think Watts has lots of potential, it's tapping the potential. Remember he has been at a very ordinary club from day 1.

I'm with you Zeph , I know we are both going to cop it , but Watts badly needs another club.
The problem for me is he is going to cost too much. I wouldn't do a straight swap for Hrovat , but that's what it will take I think. As an example if it was Honey and a 3rd rounder I would seriously think about it.

 

[Dogsman16]

I struggle to see how honeychurch sticks in the league unfortunately. Hope I'm wrong. Love his 'tude.

Thats where I see someone like Toby McLean overtake him in a very short space of time. More tricks and is a very very good hitup kick inside forward 50. Very similar to Hunter in that regard.

Unfortunately I think we still went too inside with a lot of our 2011 - 2013 picks and that the collateral may be someone like Hrovat. Unfortunate for someone like Clay Smith too, because of injury he is probably not in the first 30 selected.

 

[Mutt]

I struggle to see how honeychurch sticks in the league unfortunately. Hope I'm wrong. Love his 'tude.

Agree. Honeychurch is extremely limited but has a fabulous hunger and work ethic. When you are short and struggle to kick and handball to AFL standard it's not enough though.

 

[Mofra]

I'm with you Zeph , I know we are both going to cop it , but Watts badly needs another club.

Watts isn't a bastard on field, he just isn't mean enough for his type of play to stand up in pressure games.
In ordinary H&A matches he can look fantastic, but he's not the type of player I think we should be looking at.

 

[King Harold]

I struggle to see how honeychurch sticks in the league unfortunately. Hope I'm wrong. Love his 'tude.

Will you be quiet , don't go telling the world that while I am trying to get a good deal done

 

[Dogsman16]

I'm with you Zeph , I know we are both going to cop it , but Watts badly needs another club.
The problem for me is he is going to cost too much. I wouldn't do a straight swap for Hrovat , but that's what it will take I think. As an example if it was Honey and a 3rd rounder I would seriously think about it.

For the right price I'd take a punt on him. Maybe in a less contested game style he could thrive. A coach he tells himself to back himself could be good for Jack.

I think where our list is at we can certainly afford to take some risks by trading in a recycled player (for some late draft picks) who we might turn around.

Ask yourself the question... Can anybody see the potential that our 2015 picks overtake guys like McLean, Daniel, Dale, Webb etc not to mention a whole stack of other players. Dally has drafted in so much good talent its hard to see where late picks this season get a look in for a long long time.

I know its speculative but we need some smart trades this offseason (whomever that may involve).

 

[Dogsman16]

We need to go through every opposition list and find out who plays their best football at etihad stadium. Home ground specialists!!!

 

[stefoid]

I have questions on Watts fragility also. But I ask you, which of the two is potentially a match winner? I think Watts has lots of potential, it's tapping the potential. Remember he has been at a very ordinary club from day 1.

Man, I would do it just for the look on Gary Lyons face if he came good.

 

[McCraeBF]

Now what will we get for:
Minson-Pick upgrade GWS pick
Grant-End of second round pick pick 38
Talia-pick 24 Sydney
Hrovatt-pick 27 Melbourne

Leaves us with picks:
11-R Clarke-182cm onballer
24-Milera-186cm goal kicking wingman
27-Oliver-187cm onballer
29-Parsons-190cm running half back
46-McKay-200cm kpp
66-Dylan Smith 199cm kpp
79-Darcy McPherson 177cm son of Steve sa

 

[Yojimbo]

We need to go through every opposition list and find out who plays their best football at etihad stadium. Home ground specialists!!!

Technically we should have beat Fremantle, but for a late turnover from
Mitch Wallis from memory and the less said about the melee in the St
Kilda game at half time thanks Jake the better. So that means we could
have easily won 13 out of 13 at Etihad, but finals are not played at
Etihad and rarely in Victoria it seems anymore. I would prefer a game
plan that stood up anywhere whether the width of the "G" or the tight
wingless expanses of simmonds stadium.

 

[Testekill]

Neither of the McKay brothers are falling to the mid 40's unless there's something seriously wrong with them like they test horribly at the combine.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Neither of the McKay brothers are falling to the mid 40's unless there's something seriously wrong with them like they test horribly at the combine.

I'm starting to think they slide a bit, they haven't done a lot over recent weeks. A lot of hype but little return so far. Probably not to 40 though.

 

[Wizard17]

Neither of the McKay brothers are falling to the mid 40's unless there's something seriously wrong with them like they test horribly at the combine.

Or Milera dropping to the 20's. Some clubs view him as a top 10 talent after his recent performances in the SANFL.

 

[Gmod23]

Or Milera dropping to the 20's. Some clubs view him as a top 10 talent after his recent performances in the SANFL.

Oliver that late would be a surprise too.

 

[Dogsman16]

Surprised no one has brought up that Webb and Dale have extended their contracts till the end of 2017. Unless I'm well far behind everyone.

 

[VitalDread]

Surprised no one has brought up that Webb and Dale have extended their contracts till the end of 2017. Unless I'm well far behind everyone.

That was talked about last week or about 30 pages worth

 

[Dogsman16]

That was talked about last week or about 30 pages worth

Are you sure that wasn't McLean Daniel and Prudden. Dogs website just released the story today.

 

[Wizard17]

Well deserved from the both of them. God last year was a good draft year, and the year before that, and the year before that.

 

[VitalDread]

Are you sure that wasn't McLean Daniel and Prudden. Dogs website just released the story today.

My bad, good that they signed

Both had a great year

This years best first player will be a tough contest

 

[Mofra]

Did like the facebook comment that it ties Bailey Dale to the Bulldogs until he starts puberty

 

[dergert]

Did like the facebook comment that it ties Bailey Dale to the Bulldogs until he starts puberty

I was going to post something similar here and pass it off as my own joke. Damn.

 

[Fultons]

I'm with you Zeph , I know we are both going to cop it , but Watts badly needs another club.
The problem for me is he is going to cost too much. I wouldn't do a straight swap for Hrovat , but that's what it will take I think. As an example if it was Honey and a 3rd rounder I would seriously think about it.

Jack Watts would be worth the punt. Far more to him than meets the eye he is one intelligent young man. Just needs to focus his energy on football. If any coach can get that from him it's probably Luke Beveridge. People say he's a spud, i just don't see that really. Not his fault he went no. 1. Pick 80 and he'd just be another honest footballer plying his trade.

 

[Doggies7]

Just got of the phone to a friend at the club who informed me Talia was asked if he gave information before the Adelaide game?? what the no wonder hes being talked about...and not Roberts looks like hes gonesky

Haha your rumours are so bad man come on... Also, for all of the Hrovat rumours and talk coming in the next few weeks, he only has one T in his name, not Hrovatt