Strategy Trade and List Management thread 2.(...the waiting for the hammer to fall edition)

[darthbards]

How come all of GWS depth get them great trades but whenever the depth of the of anyone else (us as Premiers) depth who can't get a run are automatically only worth 3rd or 4th rounders?

Supply and demand possibly. I also think some clubs get excited thinking GWS depth players are better than they are because some were drafted high. Silvagnis obsession with them doesn't help and ups their value.

 

[54dreamsalive]

Dal-T.Boyd-Stringer

Crameri-Cloke-McLean

McCrae-Libba-Hunter

Wood-Cordy-Murphy

Boyd-Adams-JJ

Roughead Bonti Dunkley

Intericken,Daniel,Suckling,Biggs

VFL

Hamilton,Redpath,Long

Honey,Sproule,Dale

Simpkin,Wallis,Clarke

Lynch,Roberts,Williams

Prudden,Collins,R.Smith

Campbell Smith Jong

Have a good look we dont need to change much...

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Lewis talking to Melbourne, according to Mark Stevens.

Good lord, the world has gone crazy.

 

[Dav1d]

Dal-T.Boyd-Stringer

Crameri-Cloke-McLean

McCrae-Libba-Hunter

Wood-Cordy-Murphy

Boyd-Adams-JJ

Roughead Bonti Dunkley

Intericken,Daniel,Suckling,Biggs

VFL

Hamilton,Redpath,Long

Honey,Sproule,Dale

Simpkin,Wallis,Clarke

Lynch,Roberts,Williams

Prudden,Collins,R.Smith

Campbell Smith Jong

Have a good look we dont need to change much...

You're after my heart saying Sproule, I'm probably one of his biggest fans.

We'd have to bid to get him though.

 

[darthbards]

Dal-T.Boyd-Stringer

Crameri-Cloke-McLean

McCrae-Libba-Hunter

Wood-Cordy-Murphy

Boyd-Adams-JJ

Roughead Bonti Dunkley

Intericken,Daniel,Suckling,Biggs

VFL

Hamilton,Redpath,Long

Honey,Sproule,Dale

Simpkin,Wallis,Clarke

Lynch,Roberts,Williams

Prudden,Collins,R.Smith

Campbell Smith Jong

Have a good look we dont need to change much...

Super strong sides and Webb still has to come in to one of the sides. At full strength I seriously can't see Suckling or Cloke playing which shows how well we have drafted

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

How come all of GWS depth get them great trades but whenever the depth of the of anyone else (us as Premiers) depth who can't get a run are automatically only worth 3rd or 4th rounders?

When you have 25 first rounders running around and have half of Australia as your recruiting zone off limits to everyone else, you can afford to trade away a few ex U18 guns who haven't quite made it. They still have currency by reputation alone.

 

[Dav1d]

Super strong sides and Webb still has to come in to one of the sides. At full strength I seriously can't see Suckling or Cloke playing which shows how well we have drafted

also no Dickson

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

Do

All that aside though,will clubs know we have no choice but to de list him because of list spots and will trade accordingly.

nt worry even fringe players become budding superstars in trade week, someone will offer better than pick 60.

 

[Martyn_30_]

Disagree he was in our best 22 nearly all season and as the finals showed it's guys like Koby and Tom Mitchell that win you finals not the Motlop or Rohan's of the league. A lot of clubs need more midfield depth and grunt

The finals showed that players like Stevens are irrelevant to the best teams, the side moved on without him this year. He'll play regularly at lesser teams but they're lesser teams because the likes of Stevens play.


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[King Harold]

I think we will get pick 60 unfortunately. He only cost us pick 44 (I think) and I'd assume his value has gone down. I'd imagine if no other clubs are interested in Stevens we will just delist him anyway,I think his value is very close to zero.

Wow , most of us think he is better than that !

 

[darthbards]

also no Dickson

Must be our finals side,apparently Dickson can't perform in finals

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Wow the Kobe bashing. He played in the red white and blue and for that he deserves some respect. I hope he goes well at the Saints.

 

[footyfan000001]

Mitch brown of west coast coming back to vic. Wonder if we will have a look if we lose Hamling?

 

[darthbards]

Wow , most of us think he is better than that !

I'm not really meaning though what he is actually worth or what we think he's worth. I think clubs know he will be delisted, and that might send his value down significantly

 

[Martyn_30_]

Mitch brown of west coast coming back to vic. Wonder if we will have a look if we lose Hamling?

I've seen brick walls with more mobility than Brown, he doesn't fit the team at all.


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[VogonProsthetnic]

The finals showed that players like Stevens are irrelevant to the best teams, the side moved on without him this year. He'll play regularly at lesser teams but they're lesser teams because the likes of Stevens play.


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The finals showed that hyped up super athletes like Rhys Stanley, Motlop, Rohan, Jetta, Josh Jenkins are useless when to going gets tough in contest after contest hand to hand combat matches. Not every club has the luxury of swapping in 5-6 tough midfielders as part of the centre rotation. Guys like Stevens, Jong, Clay a Smith etc... will be valued players despite their not so perfect skills and decision-making.

 

[Southern 8]

I hope the Dogs ask Jayden Foster to come play for Footscray.

 

[Kretiukwasking]

Dal-T.Boyd-Stringer

Crameri-Cloke-McLean

McCrae-Libba-Hunter

Wood-Cordy-Murphy

Boyd-Adams-JJ

Roughead Bonti Dunkley

Intericken,Daniel,Suckling,Biggs

VFL

Hamilton,Redpath,Long

Honey,Sproule,Dale

Simpkin,Wallis,Clarke

Lynch,Roberts,Williams

Prudden,Collins,R.Smith

Campbell Smith Jong

Have a good look we dont need to change much...

I was thinking this was a projected side for 2018.....given morris must have retired?

 

[Martyn_30_]

The finals showed that hyped up super athletes like Rhys Stanley, Motlop, Rohan, Jetta, Josh Jenkins are useless when to going gets tough in contest after contest hand to hand combat matches. Not every club has the luxury of swapping in 5-6 tough midfielders as part of the centre rotation. Guys like Stevens, Jong, Clay a Smith etc... will be valued players despite their not so perfect skills and decision-making.

Yes you need tough players but you also need a certain level of talent who would Stevens replace in the midfield at the Bulldogs, Giants or Swans?


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[54dreamsalive]

Super strong sides and Webb still has to come in to one of the sides. At full strength I seriously can't see Suckling or Cloke playing which shows how well we have drafted

Watch this space Webb might go to Hawthorn

 

[X_box_X]

Dal-T.Boyd-Stringer

Crameri-Cloke-McLean

McCrae-Libba-Hunter

Wood-Cordy-Murphy

Boyd-Adams-JJ

Roughead Bonti Dunkley

Intericken,Daniel,Suckling,Biggs

VFL

Hamilton,Redpath,Long

Honey,Sproule,Dale

Simpkin,Wallis,Clarke

Lynch,Roberts,Williams

Prudden,Collins,R.Smith

Campbell Smith Jong

Have a good look we dont need to change much...

Either Morris has retired in the last three hours or you have forgotten him. Please tell me its the latter.

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

I was thinking this was a projected side for 2018.....given morris must have retired?

Yes you need tough players but you also need a certain level of talent who would Stevens replace in the midfield at the Bulldogs, Giants or Swans?


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They are the three clubs who don't need him. But the rest of the league needs midfield depth.

 

[54dreamsalive]

Super strong sides and Webb still has to come in to one of the sides. At full strength I seriously can't see Suckling or Cloke playing which shows how well we have drafted

Shit Webb and Morris how well are we really going lol

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

Watch this space Webb might go to Hawthorn

What's the bet they will offer Hartung, Sicily, O'Rourke or Scoenmakers?

 

[Fossie 32]

Suspected the injury was fairly bad but it's a bit strange that following the grand final comes all these stories about players playing through injuries heroically. There wasn't even a whisper regarding Stringer's shoulder. I was quite pleased with his effort in the finals and what he provided to the team.

Don't know why you think it's strange. And there were whispers about Jakes shoulder