Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 4 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Mattdougie]

MD is going to go full Trump

Nah I’m on board the Jong train now

Happy to have him play every week in our mid table team TOOT TOOT

 

[Mattdougie]

Haha I think MD has a little more love respect for Jongy than he cares to admit publicly....

I have always said the bloke is hard as nails and deserves a ton of credit for coming from where he was to playing even one game of AFL

And if for he plays most weeks in bottom half of ladder teams, unfortunately I’d hope we are better than bottom half

 

[BarryMorgan]

Jong has signed a 1-year deal for 2021

Extremely underrated pisstaker as well as good midfield depth.

 

[Bro_Pro]

You’ll be a happy man come next week then! Not a chance we accept that.

I hope so mate

 

[Hobdog]

We are playing this very well.

No internal animosity causing the Dunkley trade request - just the $$$ and little bro (driven by dad).

Our first preference is to keep him and I hope that is what happens, but IF Essendon really want him, they need to overpay.

There is no other way.

Feel much more comfortable with SP managing the negotiations instead of JMAC.

My sentiments exactly, GW [emoji1303]


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[Bro_Pro]

What? What an idiotic thing to say.

We will get a good deal or he plays with us or sits out the next two years (tip he won’t do the final one).

I hope nobody at the club thinks remotely like you.

Arrrrr the old I don’t agree with your opinion you must be a idiot comment!!!
Haha sits out the next 2 years as if that would happen, then he wouldn’t be worth anything!!yeah righto mate we will see next week!!
As I previously stated I think he’s worth more but I doubt the offer will get any better then pick 7 and there 2021 2nd rounder

 

[DognBones]

I'm not as enthused as some regarding AMT. He's probably better than the small forward options we have but he's no game changer and can be very hit or miss against good opponents. If he was 'thrown in' as part of the Dunkley deal then be could be a worthy addition but that's not going to happen - Dodo has him contracted for 2 more years.

 

[fronkalicious]

Could Schache be Steak knives in the Dunkley deal? No daniher or McKernan for Essendon

 

[gangsta deluxe]

Arrrrr the old I don’t agree with your opinion you must be a idiot comment!!!
Haha sits out the next 2 years as if that would happen, then he wouldn’t be worth anything!!yeah righto mate we will see next week!!
As I previously stated I think he’s worth more but I doubt the offer will get any better then pick 7 and there 2021 2nd rounder

There was an insult in there, granted, but you didn’t actually respond to the heart of the comment. This is that we hold all the cards here and can decide whether he stays or goes. We aren’t forced to take a bad deal like you suggest and to imply we are is confusing given what we know about the context.

As I said I hope nobody at the club thinks like you because the attitude is at odds with what is happening (I.e. contracted player that they critically need). Even Dodoro has admitted it ffs.

And I don’t just disagree with your opinion. Your opinion is objectively wrong.

 

[Doggy]

Could Schache be Steak knives in the Dunkley deal? No daniher or McKernan for Essendon

Why?

Why throw away a player because you don't like him

 

[Testekill]

Don't mind this trade

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It's honestly not a bad trade and if it span out like that then I'd imagine most of us would be happy.

 

[fronkalicious]

Deal 1
Out - Dunkley
In - Pick 7 and Tippa

Deal 2
Out - pick, 7, pick 14, 2021 2nd, Dale
In - treloar, Stephenson, pies 2021 first, pick 39

So we effectively swap 1sts and 2nds, then pick 7 and Dale for Stephenson and treloar.

Would leave us with 2 2021 first rounders. We’d need to wrangle some more points for JUH. We’d only have 39, 41 and 54

 

[Bro_Pro]

There was an insult in there, granted, but you didn’t actually respond to the heart of the comment. This is that we hold all the cards here and can decide whether he stays or goes. We aren’t forced to take a bad deal like you suggest and to imply we are is confusing given what we know about the context.

As I said I hope nobody at the club thinks like you because the attitude is at odds with what is happening (I.e. contracted player that they critically need). Even Dodoro has admitted it ffs.

And I don’t just disagree with your opinion. Your opinion is objectively wrong.

Righto mate still my opinion even if you think it’s “objectively wrong”

I’m just being realistic with what they will offer and highly doubt he will be at the club next year!! Happy to be proven wrong and we get more for him but I can’t see it happing. What some people think we can get for Dunks trade wise now that’s “objectively wrong” he’s no Dusty

 

[Roscoe_au]

Essendon looking at 2m Peter. On massive money for someone playing in the magoos

 

[Dogsman16]

Deal 1
Out - Dunkley
In - Pick 7 and Tippa

Deal 2
Out - pick, 7, pick 14, 2021 2nd, Dale
In - treloar, Stephenson, pies 2021 first, pick 39

So we effectively swap 1sts and 2nds, then pick 7 and Dale for Stephenson and treloar.

Would leave us with 2 2021 first rounders. We’d need to wrangle some more points for JUH. We’d only have 39, 41 and 54

Swap our third as well?

Might have to put another asset on the table to get some points. Unfortunately I could see someone like Lewis Young

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(or someone of that calibre) being offered.

 

[Struggle]

Would pick 8 be enough for Treloer plus Stephenson?

out: Dunkley

in: AMT, Stephenson, Treloer

No way would that fit in the salary cap

 

[Del165892]

If we end up with any of Treloar, Stephenson or Tippa next year I'll cancel my membership.

 

[adogsfan5]

Essendon looking at 2m Peter. On massive money for someone playing in the magoos

Actually applaud them for this one. Will be handy at FF and won’t cost much.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

I’d still prefer to keep any Treloar trade separate from screwing Essendon for Dunkley.

Same

 

[The Inbetweener]

That's along the lines of what I was thinking although I'd prefer to swap one of those 2nd rounders for AMT and try to pick up the remaining points for JUH by trading out Shache/Dale/Young.

Yeah I considered that with AMT. just think with Hannan coming in they might be too similar

 

[fronkalicious]

If we end up with any of Treloar, Stephenson or Tippa next year I'll cancel my membership.

Legit Scrag? You don’t rate any of those guys?

 

[Mattdougie]

Actually applaud them for this one. Will be handy at FF and won’t cost much.

Have you seen the way Essendon deliver the footy into their forward line ??

Won’t get near it

 

[Testekill]

I remember being very impressed with this kid on the couple of occasions I saw him.

Did injury finish him off?

He did have bad luck with injury but it sounds like this season he didn't really impress in the scratch matches.

 

[Doggies_13]

No way would that fit in the salary cap

Why wouldn’t it fit in the cap?

Look at the tigers list they fit in the cap, Geelong just offered Cameron 950k a year plus brought in Isaac smith

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and will bring in Shaun Higgins

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and that fits in the cap. Who are we actually paying huge money too? We’ve been getting you her every year and have lost Boyd’s $1million a year. Wood would have just taken a pay cut in his new contract, Jong probably just got a much lighter contract.

If our list manager has been astute we would have front ended a lot of the contracts of our better players. We should have plenty of cap space

 

[Dogsman16]

Liam Pickering is a master operator but jeez he's unlikeable due to his tactics.

He's the one who told Dunkley to sign the 3 year deal last year. But as soon as a massive deal is offered he's not only pushing his client towards it but also pressuring the club who is selling by publicly saying "get the deal done".

Pickers you were the one who veto'ed the 3 year deal. Why shouldn't we respect the original agreement you made.