Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[doggies ftw]

Sounds like a young Dangerfield. It was his biggest knock on him at the beginning of his career.

I think there’s a few more differences between young Danger at 24yo Oskar Baker tbf

Big do not want for mine, we’ve got to stop thinking we can play trashy ball users on the wings and flanks, would be a wasted list spot

 

[Dav1d]

I think there’s a few more differences between young Danger at 24yo Oskar Baker tbf

Big do not want for mine, we’ve got to stop thinking we can play trashy ball users on the wings and flanks, would be a wasted list spot

Yeah
I’d rather something like a small forward, key defender or a ruck developing
Midfielders usually tend to show something by their mid twenties, in fact they should be peaking

 

[Contador]

Sounds like a young Dangerfield.

We should be all over him if true.

 

[Sharkey66]

What are the knocks on him? Don’t know anything about him.

Diehard Melbourne supporter mate says he is very good at hitting a target...
Unfortunately the targets are usually wearing opposition colors.

 

[Dav1d]

Young Dangerfield was already an All Australian at 22
Come on

 

[Mojorisin]

Young Dangerfield was already an All Australian at 22
Come on

14 year old dangerfield

 

[TedDougChris]

Young Dangerfield was already an All Australian at 22
Come on

Yeah - but to be fair - he’ll still be making the team 16 years after he retires… he just gets added in by default

 

[doggie dog]

Rather him than Naismith for obvious reasons

Currently rehabbing from a 2nd ACL rupture.....nahhhhhh thanks.
If we rookie a ruck, i what one that's not an injury risk. Not another year of injuried ruck like Stef Martin.

 

[DueWest]

Currently rehabbing from a 2nd ACL rupture.....nahhhhhh thanks.
If we rookie a ruck, i what one that's not an injury risk. Not another year of injuried ruck like Stef Martin.

We now have a really good and possibly league leading 1-2 Ruck Forward set up

Odds are English misses 6 to 8 games per year and we need a solid back up solution.

If Sweet (Bevo….. “he isn’t ready”) is the back up it isnt right, we need to look at least to VFL WAFL SANFL best bet to back up as 3rd choice if we are a flag chance (which we are)

 

[BallaratBulldog]

He is quick and hard.

Can’t hit a leading target or a stationary target by foot. Kicks float rather than travel. Doesn’t slow down to deliver the ball. Handballs are not accurate either.

For a outside, he is surprisingly good at hardball gets. That isn’t suppose to be your best football attribute when you play outside.

He won’t be on our team. No need to discuss further.

Why doesn’t someone play him as a quick inside mid?

 

[LittleG]

Why doesn’t someone play him as a quick inside mid?

Turnovers.

 

[Ash1337]

I think there’s a few more differences between young Danger at 24yo Oskar Baker tbf

Big do not want for mine, we’ve got to stop thinking we can play trashy ball users on the wings and flanks, would be a wasted list spot

Forgot Baker is 24. Dangerfield's earliest games was all run and kicking the ball in a general direction. They had to teach him how to slow down and kick to a target. I think Baker can learn that as well but he's not going to be anything like Dangerfield. Another thing that helped Dangerfield was he put on a lot of muscle to play that inside mid role which would of made him heavier and slower helping his training.

 

[Islanddoggy]

TBH I hope we are looking at Tom Phillips

21

Tom Phillips

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.4

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

D

15.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

as a Lachie Hunter replacement. I rate him as a decent role player and a true winger unlike Truck. I also hope we draft 2 mids/outside who have pace like Darcy Jones, Hollands or I like the look of Hewett! Though with 2 first rounds in next years string draft we will probably take best available for 11 and 21 and 39 will be needs

 

[TedDougChris]

TBH I hope we are looking at Tom Phillips as a Lachie Hunter replacement. I rate him as a decent role player and a true winger unlike Truck. I also hope we draft 2 mids/outside who have pace like Darcy Jones, Hollands or I like the look of Hewett! Though with 2 first rounds in next years string draft we will probably take best available for 11 and 21 and 39 will be needs

Phillips is a very outside player, not much for the contact or contested side of the game.

 

[Mojorisin]

Phillips is a very outside player, not much for the contact or contested side of the game.

Also not a great user of the ball

 

[gangsta deluxe]

Peak offseason. Delisted Oskar Baker

13

Oskar Baker

Age

27

Ht

184cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.7

4star

MG

277.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

16.0

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

333.6

5star

compared to Dangerfield.

 

[Ash1337]

Peak offseason. Delisted Oskar Baker compared to Dangerfield.

Lol I wasn't really comparing him. I was noting that Dangerfield had the same deficiency in his game. I was more saying it's something that can be corrected.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Word is Carlton have told Busslinger they won't be taking him.

And Geelong are taking Clarke

 

[weltschmerz]

Carlton fans seem very confident they're taking Hollands.

 

[Mofra]

Lol I wasn't really comparing him. I was noting that Dangerfield had the same deficiency in his game. I was more saying it's something that can be corrected.

How many AFL players significantly improve their field kicking after age 24?
Danger's kicking issues are overblown.

 

[Chalky White]

How many AFL players significantly improve their field kicking after age 24?
Danger's kicking issues are overblown.

How many inside mids are actually good disposers of the ball by foot. Answer...Not many
Most are good handballers but not great kicks.

 

[Mofra]

How many inside mids are actually good disposers of the ball by foot. Answer...Not many
Most are good handballers but not great kicks.

Even then, their disposal often suffers due to having to constantly dispose of the ball under pressure.
IIRC Matty Boyd's DE spiked when he was shifted from mid to defence.

 

[Chalky White]

Even then, their disposal often suffers due to having to constantly dispose of the ball under pressure.
IIRC Matty Boyd's DE spiked when he was shifted from mid to defence.

Agree with this. If Libba played HBF his disposal efficiency would improve.

 

[gangsta deluxe]

Probably a bit of a combination of both - gun mids even who are considered to be good by foot often have absurdly low DE.

Danger does have his issues though, but much of that is game style. Man was and to some extent still is a bull.

 

[VitalDread]

WESTERN BULLDOGS

As things stand, it won’t be an enviable 2024 for list manager Sam Power

Sam Power

Age

42

Ht

190cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.8

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

and the powers that be at Whitten Oval. They’ll have to figure out how to keep all of Aaron Naughton, Bailey Smith

3

Bailey Smith

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Tim English, the latter of whom is a restricted free agent. If all four of those names continue developing like they are, they are going to be some of the most sought-after players in the game. It’s a tough balancing act, albeit a good problem to have. Jason Johannisen will be an unrestricted free agent but looks set to finish his career at the Dogs despite trade talks this off-season.