Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[Doggy]

The players they'd dogs were interest in all weren't interested, they didn't contact the management of every player.

Any info on Butts? He'd be more likely

 

[Hobdog]

Thought I’d pop back on the site in the hope that the posts about hypothetical Sanders trades had ceased.

 

[Mojorisin]

Any info on Butts? He'd be more likely

He hasn't done a medical and things are less progressed on that front. I'd have Wilkie and Butts a similar likelihood of happening whether that be both or one won't impact a trade other then potentially a slight bump in offer to Butts should Wilkie turn us down.
Butts is being offered a fair bit more from North then we're offering (believe an extra 100-200k plus a 5th year but don't quote me), crows at this stage haven't upped the offer they have infront of him.

 

[Claythesmiths]

And that’s extremely generous for a 30yo but Wilkie plays a position of need

Wilkie is 4 months older than Bailey Dale. Would you accept pick 10 (heavily pushed back) and some steak knives for Dale while he’s in contract?

 

[Doggy]

He hasn't done a medical and things are less progressed on that front. I'd have Wilkie and Butts a similar likelihood of happening whether that be both or one won't impact a trade other then potentially a slight bump in offer to Butts should Wilkie turn us down.
Butts is being offered a fair bit more from North then we're offering (believe an extra 100-200k plus a 5th year but don't quote me), crows at this stage haven't upped the offer they have infront of him.

I thought our offer was more.

If Norf is offering that much more we could end up with noone

 

[Pencil case]

He hasn't done a medical and things are less progressed on that front. I'd have Wilkie and Butts a similar likelihood of happening whether that be both or one won't impact a trade other then potentially a slight bump in offer to Butts should Wilkie turn us down.
Butts is being offered a fair bit more from North then we're offering (believe an extra 100-200k plus a 5th year but don't quote me), crows at this stage haven't upped the offer they have infront of him.

I’d be happy to match whatever North are offering.

 

[Sentinel]

The players they were interest in all weren't interested, they didn't contact the management of every player.

At least this shows the Saints aren't saying 'under no circumstances', which some Saints supporters appear to believe is the case.

 

[Mojorisin]

I’d be happy to match whatever North are offering.

We don't tend to deviate from plans. Like with the JSOS situation, we'd rather our pitch for the future and facilities do the talking. It's a bit of a juggling act when we still have a few targets on the board.

 

[TiAn_]

Saints heavily overpaying for Jock Salami makes more sense if they thought there’s a decent chance they’d lose Wilkie. They’d only have Leek Aleer and Dougal Howard

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back there (and Caminiti I guess).

 

[Doggy]

Saints heavily overpaying for Jock Salami makes more sense if they thought there’s a decent chance they’d lose Wilkie. They’d only have Leek Aleer and Dougal Howard back there (and Caminiti I guess).

Or it's just Daddy SOS over paying his son

 

[Mojorisin]

At least this shows the Saints aren't saying 'under no circumstances', which some Saints supporters appear to believe is the case.

It's just good business from a sales point of view. Not many teams hold players to deals like we did with Dunkley (personally i think more should). The Eagles have also said Ryan is a required player, teams also don't usual poison a players trade value like we did with Stringer.

Saints heavily overpaying for Jock Salami makes more sense if they thought there’s a decent chance they’d lose Wilkie. They’d only have Leek Aleer and Dougal Howard back there (and Caminiti I guess).

It would but that isn't the sequence of events. Saints came late for JSOS so the dogs looked on who was on less that may be tempted out.

Also Tauru, who's a quality young defender.

Tauru will be a gun, I am somewhat biased but the Saints drafting has been close to flawless lately.

 

[MrChristo]

The players they were interest in all weren't interested, they didn't contact the management of every player.

I'd be 100% willing to believe that not one person on our list would want to go to St. Kilda.

I didn't find it shocking at all. Seriously.

(But yes, it's does make sense that they wouldn't bother asking everybody).

 

[Doggy]

It's just good business from a sales point of view. Not many teams hold players to deals like we did with Dunkley (personally i think more should). The Eagles have also said Ryan is a required player, teams also don't usual poison a players trade value like we did with Stringer.


It would but that isn't the sequence of events. Saints came late for JSOS so the dogs looked on who was on less that may be tempted out.

Tauru will be a gun, I am somewhat biased but the Saints recruiting has been close to flawless lately.

You mean their drafting?

Their recruiting has been dogshit

 

[Mojorisin]

You mean their drafting?

Their recruiting has been dogshit

My apologies yes. Editing now.

 

[TiAn_]

It would but that isn't the sequence of events. Saints came late for JSOS so the dogs looked on who was on less that may be tempted out.

There was already a fair bit of smoke about him being unhappy and another team being interested before the Saints went for Silvagni.

 

[dogwatch]

If Norf is offering that much more we could end up with noone

Noone? Who does he play for?

I checked a few stats sites and there’s no one by that name.

 

[Mojorisin]

There was already a fair bit of smoke about him being unhappy and another team being interested before the Saints went for Silvagni.

I hadn't heard that but not doubting you.

 

[TheScriptorWL]

At least this shows the Saints aren't saying 'under no circumstances', which some Saints supporters appear to believe is the case.

You have to question why the Saints board thinks we'd waste weeks of our precious off-season. Which everyone knows we must nail. On a player that St Kilda have placed on a No Trade list.

They point to a single quote from Ross as if it's gospel, not taking in account that they are still 3-4 years off seriously competing. If they keep their Guns around.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Sanders is the only Midfield swing player that I feel comfortable giving up in a trade for Wilkie. He'll be a star, no doubt in my mind, but he looks to be a slow burn type player. Still lacks composure at times and his preference to Handball the pill over kicking it, often actively harms us.

Whilst Freijah could genuinely be anything in the next few years. We call him Baby Bont for a reason.

Sanders and our 1st.

Good teams don’t trade players unless they are c grade or desperate to depart. The only one I can remember was Hawks when going for Wingard and that wasn’t a great trade for either team. Picks or picks if we want to improve when adding players.

 

[Munnez]

No dogs player will be involved.

Player for Player trades are a rarity it's nearly always draft picks so not surprising

 

[grassman75]

He hasn't done a medical and things are less progressed on that front. I'd have Wilkie and Butts a similar likelihood of happening whether that be both or one won't impact a trade other then potentially a slight bump in offer to Butts should Wilkie turn us down.
Butts is being offered a fair bit more from North then we're offering (believe an extra 100-200k plus a 5th year but don't quote me), crows at this stage haven't upped the offer they have infront of him.

You’d take less money to not play at North surely

 

[Optimistic Dog]

If you are optimistic then it’s not happening…..

I am optimistic the sun will rise tomorrow.

 

[bobs head soup]

Noone? Who does he play for?

I checked a few stats sites and there’s no one by that name.

Could be Peter Noone, lead singer of Hermans Hermits.

Seems a better fit for StKilda though, given his glory years were around 1966.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Wilkie is 4 months older than Bailey Dale. Would you accept pick 10 (heavily pushed back) and some steak knives for Dale while he’s in contract?

If Dale announced he wanted out and we were offered pick 10 and a 2nd rounder as the trade, that wouldn't be crazy. (not that I want this to happen)

 

[Claythesmiths]

If Dale announced he wanted out and we were offered pick 10 and a 2nd rounder as the trade, that wouldn't be crazy. (not that I want this to happen)

Knowing as we do that Dale is a complete professional and that if denied his move he’d turn up to training on day 1 of preseason and give it his all, as he always has, I don’t think we’d do that trade, much the same as we did with Dunkley in 2020.

I don’t know much about Wilkie but I suspect he fits that model professional mould pretty well too and can’t imagine he’d spend 2026 sulking if the move doesn’t get done.