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Trade/Delistings/List Management 2010 Thread
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Re: NRL 'converts' and salary cap
...because there is no need to be up in arms about it
Your post implied that people should be, or that you are, a bit crook that these foreigners have taken places on the lists of some football clubs that Aussie kids have some predisposed right to.
I can certainly understand people being up in arms about the amount of money being thrown at Folau and Hunt. Two things:
1. I don't think anyone can blame either of them for accepting the money. Who wouldn't?
2. I think the people who are crook about it are those who are annoyed that they have to separate footballing ability from business. Unfortunately sometimes the big picture eclipses the immediate smaller one.
As I've mentioned before, once free-agency comes in, guns like Ablett, Judd and co will be demanding the same if not more. The AFL may have shot themselves in the foot I reckon. I can see less wealthy clubs hurting from the cost of the two signings in the long run. It was only a few years ago that Melbourne players were being asked to bring their own ice to training!
...because there is no need to be up in arms about it
Your post implied that people should be, or that you are, a bit crook that these foreigners have taken places on the lists of some football clubs that Aussie kids have some predisposed right to.
I can certainly understand people being up in arms about the amount of money being thrown at Folau and Hunt. Two things:
1. I don't think anyone can blame either of them for accepting the money. Who wouldn't?
2. I think the people who are crook about it are those who are annoyed that they have to separate footballing ability from business. Unfortunately sometimes the big picture eclipses the immediate smaller one.
As I've mentioned before, once free-agency comes in, guns like Ablett, Judd and co will be demanding the same if not more. The AFL may have shot themselves in the foot I reckon. I can see less wealthy clubs hurting from the cost of the two signings in the long run. It was only a few years ago that Melbourne players were being asked to bring their own ice to training!
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Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
That ... Jon Ralph is a dick-sucking knob jockey who munches on Arabian balls marinated in donkey shit, sauced over with bum wee and garnished with Jack Watts.
Australian censorship at it's ****ing finest...
That ... Jon Ralph is a dick-sucking knob jockey who munches on Arabian balls marinated in donkey shit, sauced over with bum wee and garnished with Jack Watts.
Australian censorship at it's ****ing finest...
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Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
Yeah, that's just moderation gone mad.
Yeah, that's just moderation gone mad.
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Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
Jon Ralph seems so into himself. I hate that.
Jon Ralph seems so into himself. I hate that.
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Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
Interesting difference between the same article/thread on 2 different sites. You lot have just bagged the HuN and our site discussed possible trades in relation to the article. So do i take it Essendon arnt looking at aggressive trading/drafting?
Interesting difference between the same article/thread on 2 different sites. You lot have just bagged the HuN and our site discussed possible trades in relation to the article. So do i take it Essendon arnt looking at aggressive trading/drafting?
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Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
Don't take this the wrong way, Bazzar, because you make an interesting point, but I don't think end of season stuff is on our radar ATM. Our season is still about making finals, yours is about list development, so naturally your focus will be on improving your list.
We've been there as well.
Don't take this the wrong way, Bazzar, because you make an interesting point, but I don't think end of season stuff is on our radar ATM. Our season is still about making finals, yours is about list development, so naturally your focus will be on improving your list.
We've been there as well.
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Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
You make a good point
By the way, is does shit me the disrespect certain journos show not only us, but you lot as well.
You make a good point
By the way, is does shit me the disrespect certain journos show not only us, but you lot as well.
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Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
For "former power clubs" we both have more flags in 50 years than Collingwood...
For "former power clubs" we both have more flags in 50 years than Collingwood...
Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
Nazi! lol
Can't believe you, of all mods, just posted that.Yeah, that's just moderation gone mad.
Nazi! lol
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Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
Lol... since about 1938, its 3 to the Pies and 16 the both of us. They really are a powerhouse... How does that bit in their club song go... "Oh, the Premierships a cakewalk" classic.
Lol... since about 1938, its 3 to the Pies and 16 the both of us. They really are a powerhouse... How does that bit in their club song go... "Oh, the Premierships a cakewalk" classic.
Re: NRL 'converts' and salary cap
Those against signing these two-mega names are incredibly short-sighted. We are in NRL territory and this is a MAJOR coup to have the face of our two new franchises as renoun NRL converts. Do they deserve the money? Course not. Should the AFL being doing it anyway? **** yes. The marketing value of these individuals far outweighs having any AFL player moving to Sydney or the Gold Coast.
In fact even if Goodes moved from the Swans to the GWS ... he still wouldn't be as big as Folau.
Those against signing these two-mega names are incredibly short-sighted. We are in NRL territory and this is a MAJOR coup to have the face of our two new franchises as renoun NRL converts. Do they deserve the money? Course not. Should the AFL being doing it anyway? **** yes. The marketing value of these individuals far outweighs having any AFL player moving to Sydney or the Gold Coast.
In fact even if Goodes moved from the Swans to the GWS ... he still wouldn't be as big as Folau.
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Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
But they were on top of the ladder in May!
But they were on top of the ladder in May!
Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
fffairly certain Jon Ralph is an Essendon supporter
Jo(h)n Ralph despises Essendon - no surprises there.
fffairly certain Jon Ralph is an Essendon supporter
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Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
FWIW, when the article came out, I tweeted this to Jon Ralph: ''Essendon a ''former power club''?? What planet are you on Ralph?''
And then he replied: ''Think I described them as a power club. Didn't realised they changed it''
I guess by ''they'' he means his editors. God I love it when somebody replies to my baiting on twitter.
FWIW, when the article came out, I tweeted this to Jon Ralph: ''Essendon a ''former power club''?? What planet are you on Ralph?''
And then he replied: ''Think I described them as a power club. Didn't realised they changed it''
I guess by ''they'' he means his editors. God I love it when somebody replies to my baiting on twitter.
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Re: Bombers chasing Dangerfield, Boak, Sidebottom
Of course Essendon would be chasing these kids - all Victorian, all yet to enter their zenith, all quality in the making. They'd be stupid not to be asking questions. Actually landing them though...well I can only speak for Dangerfield here, but the chance is so slim I wouldn't imagine it registers as a chance in any reasonable metric.
When all is said and done, how many legitimate high quality footballers up and request to leave their clubs producing "dream trade" situations like this? Springing to mind are Judd, Hudson, Burgoyne and Jolly in the past what, 4 years? Fact is unless a club wants to get rid of someone, you're rarely going to find much on offer in terms of classy footballers. We -know- that Adelaide, Collingwood and Port would do everything in their respective administrative powers to keep their aforementioned young stars at their clubs; keeping this and hence history in mind, I'd be surprised if either of the three reached the market. Just Hutchy slapping another cheap story together.
Of course Essendon would be chasing these kids - all Victorian, all yet to enter their zenith, all quality in the making. They'd be stupid not to be asking questions. Actually landing them though...well I can only speak for Dangerfield here, but the chance is so slim I wouldn't imagine it registers as a chance in any reasonable metric.
When all is said and done, how many legitimate high quality footballers up and request to leave their clubs producing "dream trade" situations like this? Springing to mind are Judd, Hudson, Burgoyne and Jolly in the past what, 4 years? Fact is unless a club wants to get rid of someone, you're rarely going to find much on offer in terms of classy footballers. We -know- that Adelaide, Collingwood and Port would do everything in their respective administrative powers to keep their aforementioned young stars at their clubs; keeping this and hence history in mind, I'd be surprised if either of the three reached the market. Just Hutchy slapping another cheap story together.
Re: Bombers chasing Dangerfield, Boak, Sidebottom
Whilst I reckon we can land Boak or Sidebottom there are some players starting to really show signs of being that elite midfielder.
Myers - After injury problems he's been able to string together games and is pretty damn exciting to watch.
Jetta - Could be absolutely anything have loved his work since getting back in the side
Licka - Running machine but is much a confidence player
Melksham - Star in the making extremely silky
Howlett - Reminds me of JJ with his run and carry.
Watson is elite in the way Ling and Kirky are and Stantons needs to lift another level to start doing that famous number 5 some justice.
Whilst I reckon we can land Boak or Sidebottom there are some players starting to really show signs of being that elite midfielder.
Myers - After injury problems he's been able to string together games and is pretty damn exciting to watch.
Jetta - Could be absolutely anything have loved his work since getting back in the side
Licka - Running machine but is much a confidence player
Melksham - Star in the making extremely silky
Howlett - Reminds me of JJ with his run and carry.
Watson is elite in the way Ling and Kirky are and Stantons needs to lift another level to start doing that famous number 5 some justice.
Re: Bombers chasing Dangerfield, Boak, Sidebottom
When you consider that Collingwood are on the precipice of a flag and Adelaide have got a very good side (forget the injury influenced ladder, they are capable of playing brilliant footy at their best by their 2009 form), the only player of the three I reckon might want to leave is Boak.
When you consider that Collingwood are on the precipice of a flag and Adelaide have got a very good side (forget the injury influenced ladder, they are capable of playing brilliant footy at their best by their 2009 form), the only player of the three I reckon might want to leave is Boak.
Re: Bombers chasing Dangerfield, Boak, Sidebottom
Of these named, Winderlich is the only one close to the mark. Almost agree re: Watson, though I still hold my breath when he kicks... likewise Stanton.
Of these named, Winderlich is the only one close to the mark. Almost agree re: Watson, though I still hold my breath when he kicks... likewise Stanton.
Re: Dons, Tigers armed for raid
I hate arguments about phrases like 'power clubs'.
Rather be 'successful club'.
Which we, right now, are not.
Let Pies' supporters continue to be happy with biggest profit, most attendances, blah blah blah. The club is there to win football flags, not turn huge profits.
I hate arguments about phrases like 'power clubs'.
Rather be 'successful club'.
Which we, right now, are not.
Let Pies' supporters continue to be happy with biggest profit, most attendances, blah blah blah. The club is there to win football flags, not turn huge profits.
Re: Time's up for Neagle+Laycock?
At best, I'd give Laycock a pre-season to get fit. If he's not in ripping nick at round 1, stamp his card and boost up a rookie. Can't carry someone for 2 years these days.
Changed a year or two back.
At best, I'd give Laycock a pre-season to get fit. If he's not in ripping nick at round 1, stamp his card and boost up a rookie. Can't carry someone for 2 years these days.
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