List Mgmt. Trade/Draft/Targets rumours 2019

[TigerTime88]

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ha ha perfect reply

 

[Metapod]

OK. Here is my completely insane trade idea, for us to get more trade currency. Please hear me out before shooting me.

Trade Lynch.

Now - this is contingent on a couple of things.
1. He has to want to go. I don't think he does - he seems very happy in Melbourne, building a fledgling media career, and why would you want to go back to Gold Coast anyway? But, maybe, he does.
2. We get a minimum of a Top-10 draft pick PLUS a gun U24 kid. Probably more. This is like the Eagles trading Judd, where they got Kennedy, and Pick 3. It might take a 3-4 way deal to organise that.

Why it's a good idea:

1. We have the best forward in the league WITHOUT him - sure, we'll be even better with him. But we have a premiership-winning forward line right now.
2. He turns 27 in a week.
3. He's coming off a knee - and his main strength is his enormous agility. How is that going to be affected?
4. We don't have too many HIgh Draft pick KPP kids coming through, and we won't get too many high draft picks over the next few years. If we want high draft picks, we are going to have to put up some currency - Bellis and K-Mac types aren't going to cut it. Yeah, we can wait for Free Agency and pick up the next Rance from the Suns, but there's not a lot of them, and there will be a lot of competition for them.

Why it's a bad idea:

1. He's probably the best forward in the game (although Riewdt might have something to say about that). He fits straight back into our side (Riewoldt can play on anybody).
2. We are a bit light on for KPFs - do we really think Balta is our future full-forward? Our other big forwards are 28 and have some injury history. I have no idea how Balta is going to turn out (it's exciting, though).
3. There are some guys who are just heart-and-soul of a club. I think Lynch is one of them, and this is why I would only do it IF he wants to go home. Ask old Richmond players about trading away Whale Roberts - not the greatest player, but a great team man. Ripped the heart out of the club. I see Lynch has a similar profile within the clubroom walls.
4. Going all in on High Draft picks for big kids is risky - they take many years to get it together, and you usually don't know until year 4 or 5 whether they are going to mkake it. Maybe just wait and trade for them then.

Look - it's all based upon Lynch WANTING to go - and I'm not sure he does, and I'd really rather keep him. But he's a cool cat, we know he's a bit left-field, we know he has a very interesting and different life off-field. Who knows? But if he has ever expressed the thought 'I'm happy here, but I'd like to go back home sometime and finish my career in Gold Coast', I think the club should look at that now.

Keeping your list up-to-date is an ongoing management process. You have to be thinking 4-5 years ahead all the time, paricularly with developing kids, like, say, how Lynch himself turned out. And, like it or not - players are just assets.

 

[L_J_T]

Are you on crack?

 

[Roachy8]

OK. Here is my completely insane trade idea, for us to get more trade currency. Please hear me out before shooting me.

Trade Rance.

Now - this is contingent on a couple of things.
1. He has to want to go. I don't think he does - he seems very happy in Melbourne, building a fledgling media career, and why would you want to go home to Perth anyway? But, maybe, he does.
2. We get a minimum of a Top-10 draft pick PLUS a gun U24 kid. Probably more. This is like the Eagles trading Judd, where they got Kennedy, and Pick 3. It might take a 3-4 way deal to organise that.

Why it's a good idea:

1. We have the best defence in the league WITHOUT him - sure, we'll be even better with him. But we have a premiership-winning defence right now.
2. He turns 30 in a week.
3. He's coming off a knee - and his main strength is his enormous agility. How is that going to be affected?
4. We don't have too many HIgh Draft pick KPP kids coming through, and we won't get too many high draft picks over the next few years. If we want high draft picks, we are going to have to put up some currency - Bellis and K-Mac types aren't going to cut it. Yeah, we can wait for Free Agency and pick up the next Lynch or May from the Suns, but there's not a lot of them, and there will be a lot of competition for them.

Why it's a bad idea:

1. He's probably the best defender in the game (although DGrimes might have something to say about that). He fits straight back into our side (Grimes can play on anybody).
2. We are a bit light on for KPDs - do we really think Garthwaite is our future full-back? Our other big defenders (Grimes and Astbury) are 28 and have some injury history. I have no idea how Balta is going to turn out (it's exciting, though).
3. There are some guys who are just heart-and-soul of a club. I think Rance is one of them, and this is why I would only do it IF he wants to go home. Ask old Richmond players about trading away Whale Roberts - not the greatest player, but a great team man. Ripped the heart out of the club. I see Rance has a similar profile within the clubroom walls.
4. Going all in on High Draft picks for big kids is risky - they take many years to get it together, and you usually don't know until year 4 or 5 whether they are going to mkake it. Maybe just wait and trade for them then.

Look - it's all based upon Rance WANTING to go - and I'm not sure he does, and I'd really rather keep him. But he's a cool cat, we know he's a bit left-field, we know he has a very interesting and different life off-field. Who knows? But if he has ever expressed the thought 'I'm happy here, but I'd like to go back home sometime and finish my career in Perth', I think the club should look at that now.

Keeping your list up-to-date is an ongoing management process. You have to be thinking 4-5 years ahead all the time, paricularly with developing kids, like, say, how Rance himself turned out. And, like it or not - players are just assets.

Interesting idea - you quite rightly have plenty of qualifiers in there about how it wont happen but as a concept, it is interesting.

We all know Rance thought about retiring early a few years back and becoming a global citizen, well if there is any % of him that is still of this want, with his age and coming off a knee reco and seeing how well his beloved Tigers re-set without him, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that he would 'take one for the team' and get back to WA, maybe to the club his dad played for, for a coupla years before he retires.

99.9999999999% beyond anyones consideration but we are a club that makes some ballsey moves these days, (Stack, Pickett etc) so I would love the outcry and media frenzy that such a move would attract!!!

 

[blxx]

Gee there are some precious pups on here.

I thought Wallaby's idea was well explained on both sides of the argument.

I dont agree with it but I hardly disagree with it either especially when I think about what it would net us in return.

The biggest negative for me is the intelligence. Rancey would know our defensive system inside out and his transfer to another club would be a boon. The new club would avoid the slower natural osmosis and traject instantly into a bonafide contender.

Well thought out post Wallaby in fact, Wallaby's post is probably the precursor to the elephant in the room talks we will face in the near future!

Better HTFU and get used to it folks!

 

[Tiger V]

OK. Here is my completely insane trade idea, for us to get more trade currency. Please hear me out before shooting me.

Trade Lynch.

Now - this is contingent on a couple of things.
1. He has to want to go. I don't think he does - he seems very happy in Melbourne, building a fledgling media career, and why would you want to go back to Gold Coast anyway? But, maybe, he does.
2. We get a minimum of a Top-10 draft pick PLUS a gun U24 kid. Probably more. This is like the Eagles trading Judd, where they got Kennedy, and Pick 3. It might take a 3-4 way deal to organise that.

Why it's a good idea:

1. We have the best forward in the league WITHOUT him - sure, we'll be even better with him. But we have a premiership-winning forward line right now.
2. He turns 27 in a week.
3. He's coming off a knee - and his main strength is his enormous agility. How is that going to be affected?
4. We don't have too many HIgh Draft pick KPP kids coming through, and we won't get too many high draft picks over the next few years. If we want high draft picks, we are going to have to put up some currency - Bellis and K-Mac types aren't going to cut it. Yeah, we can wait for Free Agency and pick up the next Rance from the Suns, but there's not a lot of them, and there will be a lot of competition for them.

Why it's a bad idea:

1. He's probably the best forward in the game (although Riewdt might have something to say about that). He fits straight back into our side (Riewoldt can play on anybody).
2. We are a bit light on for KPFs - do we really think Balta is our future full-forward? Our other big forwards are 28 and have some injury history. I have no idea how Balta is going to turn out (it's exciting, though).
3. There are some guys who are just heart-and-soul of a club. I think Lynch is one of them, and this is why I would only do it IF he wants to go home. Ask old Richmond players about trading away Whale Roberts - not the greatest player, but a great team man. Ripped the heart out of the club. I see Lynch has a similar profile within the clubroom walls.
4. Going all in on High Draft picks for big kids is risky - they take many years to get it together, and you usually don't know until year 4 or 5 whether they are going to mkake it. Maybe just wait and trade for them then.

Look - it's all based upon Lynch WANTING to go - and I'm not sure he does, and I'd really rather keep him. But he's a cool cat, we know he's a bit left-field, we know he has a very interesting and different life off-field. Who knows? But if he has ever expressed the thought 'I'm happy here, but I'd like to go back home sometime and finish my career in Gold Coast', I think the club should look at that now.

Keeping your list up-to-date is an ongoing management process. You have to be thinking 4-5 years ahead all the time, paricularly with developing kids, like, say, how Lynch himself turned out. And, like it or not - players are just assets.

WTF

 

[Muddiemoose]

Looks like mr magic has made an alt account

 

[Bojangles17]

100% agree with the Stack comments. First game up forward was an absolute blinder but went on to have less and less of an influence before getting dropped. Would like to see him back in defence in 2020.

Previously thought the same about Baker's move from forward to back but he did improve as a defender.

Spot on though baker is def becoming a more rounded player going back that will serve him well where I expect him to play midfield similar type of player to Devon smith

 

[TigermanM2]

OK. Here is my completely insane trade idea, for us to get more trade currency. Please hear me out before shooting me.

Trade Lynch.

Now - this is contingent on a couple of things.
1. He has to want to go. I don't think he does - he seems very happy in Melbourne, building a fledgling media career, and why would you want to go back to Gold Coast anyway? But, maybe, he does.
2. We get a minimum of a Top-10 draft pick PLUS a gun U24 kid. Probably more. This is like the Eagles trading Judd, where they got Kennedy, and Pick 3. It might take a 3-4 way deal to organise that.

Why it's a good idea:

1. We have the best forward in the league WITHOUT him - sure, we'll be even better with him. But we have a premiership-winning forward line right now.
2. He turns 27 in a week.
3. He's coming off a knee - and his main strength is his enormous agility. How is that going to be affected?
4. We don't have too many HIgh Draft pick KPP kids coming through, and we won't get too many high draft picks over the next few years. If we want high draft picks, we are going to have to put up some currency - Bellis and K-Mac types aren't going to cut it. Yeah, we can wait for Free Agency and pick up the next Rance from the Suns, but there's not a lot of them, and there will be a lot of competition for them.

Why it's a bad idea:

1. He's probably the best forward in the game (although Riewdt might have something to say about that). He fits straight back into our side (Riewoldt can play on anybody).
2. We are a bit light on for KPFs - do we really think Balta is our future full-forward? Our other big forwards are 28 and have some injury history. I have no idea how Balta is going to turn out (it's exciting, though).
3. There are some guys who are just heart-and-soul of a club. I think Lynch is one of them, and this is why I would only do it IF he wants to go home. Ask old Richmond players about trading away Whale Roberts - not the greatest player, but a great team man. Ripped the heart out of the club. I see Lynch has a similar profile within the clubroom walls.
4. Going all in on High Draft picks for big kids is risky - they take many years to get it together, and you usually don't know until year 4 or 5 whether they are going to mkake it. Maybe just wait and trade for them then.

Look - it's all based upon Lynch WANTING to go - and I'm not sure he does, and I'd really rather keep him. But he's a cool cat, we know he's a bit left-field, we know he has a very interesting and different life off-field. Who knows? But if he has ever expressed the thought 'I'm happy here, but I'd like to go back home sometime and finish my career in Gold Coast', I think the club should look at that now.

Keeping your list up-to-date is an ongoing management process. You have to be thinking 4-5 years ahead all the time, paricularly with developing kids, like, say, how Lynch himself turned out. And, like it or not - players are just assets.

Yeah nah. Home is here.

You have also missed one of the biggest reasons of why its a bad idea. What do you think the next trade target will think when we have a superstar player who agrees to trust us and commit and then we shop him around? I know what I would be thinking.

 

[Calcium Man]

Yeah nah. Home is here.

You have also missed one of the biggest reasons of why its a bad idea. What do you think the next trade target will think when we have a superstar player who agrees to trust us and commit and then we shop him around? I know what I would be thinking.

WTF

We need a sarcasm font.

 

[Metapod]

Yeah nah. Home is here.

You have also missed one of the biggest reasons of why its a bad idea. What do you think the next trade target will think when we have a superstar player who agrees to trust us and commit and then we shop him around? I know what I would be thinking.

/S

 

[Dr Tigris]

OK. Here is my completely insane trade idea, for us to get more trade currency. Please hear me out before shooting me.

Trade Rance.

Now - this is contingent on a couple of things.
1. He has to want to go. I don't think he does - he seems very happy in Melbourne, building a fledgling media career, and why would you want to go home to Perth anyway? But, maybe, he does.
2. We get a minimum of a Top-10 draft pick PLUS a gun U24 kid. Probably more. This is like the Eagles trading Judd, where they got Kennedy, and Pick 3. It might take a 3-4 way deal to organise that.

Why it's a good idea:

1. We have the best defence in the league WITHOUT him - sure, we'll be even better with him. But we have a premiership-winning defence right now.
2. He turns 30 in a week.
3. He's coming off a knee - and his main strength is his enormous agility. How is that going to be affected?
4. We don't have too many HIgh Draft pick KPP kids coming through, and we won't get too many high draft picks over the next few years. If we want high draft picks, we are going to have to put up some currency - Bellis and K-Mac types aren't going to cut it. Yeah, we can wait for Free Agency and pick up the next Lynch or May from the Suns, but there's not a lot of them, and there will be a lot of competition for them.

Why it's a bad idea:

1. He's probably the best defender in the game (although DGrimes might have something to say about that). He fits straight back into our side (Grimes can play on anybody).
2. We are a bit light on for KPDs - do we really think Garthwaite is our future full-back? Our other big defenders (Grimes and Astbury) are 28 and have some injury history. I have no idea how Balta is going to turn out (it's exciting, though).
3. There are some guys who are just heart-and-soul of a club. I think Rance is one of them, and this is why I would only do it IF he wants to go home. Ask old Richmond players about trading away Whale Roberts - not the greatest player, but a great team man. Ripped the heart out of the club. I see Rance has a similar profile within the clubroom walls.
4. Going all in on High Draft picks for big kids is risky - they take many years to get it together, and you usually don't know until year 4 or 5 whether they are going to mkake it. Maybe just wait and trade for them then.

Look - it's all based upon Rance WANTING to go - and I'm not sure he does, and I'd really rather keep him. But he's a cool cat, we know he's a bit left-field, we know he has a very interesting and different life off-field. Who knows? But if he has ever expressed the thought 'I'm happy here, but I'd like to go back home sometime and finish my career in Perth', I think the club should look at that now.

Keeping your list up-to-date is an ongoing management process. You have to be thinking 4-5 years ahead all the time, paricularly with developing kids, like, say, how Rance himself turned out. And, like it or not - players are just assets.

You're right. That is INSANE!!!

Your argument against are well put. Slap yourself across the face a few times and go and have a good lie down.

And whatever else you do, don't do it again!!

 

[scarecrow2k1]

This is rubbish. Following the Saints game he had four games of high teens possessions and either had a direct hand in a number of goals or kicked 1 himself and if he could repeat that over the course of a season he would be considered the best small forward in the game. Just because he didn't kick multiple goals in any of the games following the Saints game doesn't mean he wasn't having a significant impact. Fair enough to think he will have more of an impact in the backline (personally disagree) but sick of the lazy argument of Stack playing 1 good game as a forward when it was only the Carlton game where he performed poorly by his standards.

I didn't say he had one good game. Just had a blinder and got progressively worse. Worse than a blinder doesn't mean bad

 

[Tiger71]

OK. Here is my completely insane trade idea, for us to get more trade currency. Please hear me out before shooting me.

Trade Lynch.

Now - this is contingent on a couple of things.
1. He has to want to go. I don't think he does - he seems very happy in Melbourne, building a fledgling media career, and why would you want to go back to Gold Coast anyway? But, maybe, he does.
2. We get a minimum of a Top-10 draft pick PLUS a gun U24 kid. Probably more. This is like the Eagles trading Judd, where they got Kennedy, and Pick 3. It might take a 3-4 way deal to organise that.

Why it's a good idea:

1. We have the best forward in the league WITHOUT him - sure, we'll be even better with him. But we have a premiership-winning forward line right now.
2. He turns 27 in a week.
3. He's coming off a knee - and his main strength is his enormous agility. How is that going to be affected?
4. We don't have too many HIgh Draft pick KPP kids coming through, and we won't get too many high draft picks over the next few years. If we want high draft picks, we are going to have to put up some currency - Bellis and K-Mac types aren't going to cut it. Yeah, we can wait for Free Agency and pick up the next Rance from the Suns, but there's not a lot of them, and there will be a lot of competition for them.

Why it's a bad idea:

1. He's probably the best forward in the game (although Riewdt might have something to say about that). He fits straight back into our side (Riewoldt can play on anybody).
2. We are a bit light on for KPFs - do we really think Balta is our future full-forward? Our other big forwards are 28 and have some injury history. I have no idea how Balta is going to turn out (it's exciting, though).
3. There are some guys who are just heart-and-soul of a club. I think Lynch is one of them, and this is why I would only do it IF he wants to go home. Ask old Richmond players about trading away Whale Roberts - not the greatest player, but a great team man. Ripped the heart out of the club. I see Lynch has a similar profile within the clubroom walls.
4. Going all in on High Draft picks for big kids is risky - they take many years to get it together, and you usually don't know until year 4 or 5 whether they are going to mkake it. Maybe just wait and trade for them then.

Look - it's all based upon Lynch WANTING to go - and I'm not sure he does, and I'd really rather keep him. But he's a cool cat, we know he's a bit left-field, we know he has a very interesting and different life off-field. Who knows? But if he has ever expressed the thought 'I'm happy here, but I'd like to go back home sometime and finish my career in Gold Coast', I think the club should look at that now.

Keeping your list up-to-date is an ongoing management process. You have to be thinking 4-5 years ahead all the time, paricularly with developing kids, like, say, how Lynch himself turned out. And, like it or not - players are just assets.

I have reported you magic for starting an alt account

 

[Tigers Time]

Looks like Brando will drag an early 2nd round.

How?

Band 1: pick after our first rounder
Band 2: end of first round
Band 3: pick after our second rounder
Band 4: end of second round
Band 5: pick after our third rounder

Bands 1&2 and 3&4 are all the same pick unless another team gets a band 2 pick or band 4 compo which would come before our compo. Unless we match and force a trade but if we could match it Brando would just stay.

 

[chriso11]

Excellent. Will back the club to find a gem in the rough with these sort of compensation picks.

That pick is too high for us to find a gem. We prefer supplementary draft and mid season for our gems

 

[cairo tiger]

OK. Here is my completely insane trade idea, for us to get more trade currency. Please hear me out before shooting me.

Trade Rance.

Now - this is contingent on a couple of things.
1. He has to want to go. I don't think he does - he seems very happy in Melbourne, building a fledgling media career, and why would you want to go home to Perth anyway? But, maybe, he does.
2. We get a minimum of a Top-10 draft pick PLUS a gun U24 kid. Probably more. This is like the Eagles trading Judd, where they got Kennedy, and Pick 3. It might take a 3-4 way deal to organise that.

Why it's a good idea:

1. We have the best defence in the league WITHOUT him - sure, we'll be even better with him. But we have a premiership-winning defence right now.
2. He turns 30 in a week.
3. He's coming off a knee - and his main strength is his enormous agility. How is that going to be affected?
4. We don't have too many HIgh Draft pick KPP kids coming through, and we won't get too many high draft picks over the next few years. If we want high draft picks, we are going to have to put up some currency - Bellis and K-Mac types aren't going to cut it. Yeah, we can wait for Free Agency and pick up the next Lynch or May from the Suns, but there's not a lot of them, and there will be a lot of competition for them.

Why it's a bad idea:

1. He's probably the best defender in the game (although DGrimes might have something to say about that). He fits straight back into our side (Grimes can play on anybody).
2. We are a bit light on for KPDs - do we really think Garthwaite is our future full-back? Our other big defenders (Grimes and Astbury) are 28 and have some injury history. I have no idea how Balta is going to turn out (it's exciting, though).
3. There are some guys who are just heart-and-soul of a club. I think Rance is one of them, and this is why I would only do it IF he wants to go home. Ask old Richmond players about trading away Whale Roberts - not the greatest player, but a great team man. Ripped the heart out of the club. I see Rance has a similar profile within the clubroom walls.
4. Going all in on High Draft picks for big kids is risky - they take many years to get it together, and you usually don't know until year 4 or 5 whether they are going to mkake it. Maybe just wait and trade for them then.

Look - it's all based upon Rance WANTING to go - and I'm not sure he does, and I'd really rather keep him. But he's a cool cat, we know he's a bit left-field, we know he has a very interesting and different life off-field. Who knows? But if he has ever expressed the thought 'I'm happy here, but I'd like to go back home sometime and finish my career in Perth', I think the club should look at that now.

Keeping your list up-to-date is an ongoing management process. You have to be thinking 4-5 years ahead all the time, paricularly with developing kids, like, say, how Rance himself turned out. And, like it or not - players are just assets.

Go away

 

[M0557]

OK. Here is my completely insane trade idea, for us to get more trade currency. Please hear me out before shooting me.

Trade Lynch.

Now - this is contingent on a couple of things.
1. He has to want to go. I don't think he does - he seems very happy in Melbourne, building a fledgling media career, and why would you want to go back to Gold Coast anyway? But, maybe, he does.
2. We get a minimum of a Top-10 draft pick PLUS a gun U24 kid. Probably more. This is like the Eagles trading Judd, where they got Kennedy, and Pick 3. It might take a 3-4 way deal to organise that.

Why it's a good idea:

1. We have the best forward in the league WITHOUT him - sure, we'll be even better with him. But we have a premiership-winning forward line right now.
2. He turns 27 in a week.
3. He's coming off a knee - and his main strength is his enormous agility. How is that going to be affected?
4. We don't have too many HIgh Draft pick KPP kids coming through, and we won't get too many high draft picks over the next few years. If we want high draft picks, we are going to have to put up some currency - Bellis and K-Mac types aren't going to cut it. Yeah, we can wait for Free Agency and pick up the next Rance from the Suns, but there's not a lot of them, and there will be a lot of competition for them.

Why it's a bad idea:

1. He's probably the best forward in the game (although Riewdt might have something to say about that). He fits straight back into our side (Riewoldt can play on anybody).
2. We are a bit light on for KPFs - do we really think Balta is our future full-forward? Our other big forwards are 28 and have some injury history. I have no idea how Balta is going to turn out (it's exciting, though).
3. There are some guys who are just heart-and-soul of a club. I think Lynch is one of them, and this is why I would only do it IF he wants to go home. Ask old Richmond players about trading away Whale Roberts - not the greatest player, but a great team man. Ripped the heart out of the club. I see Lynch has a similar profile within the clubroom walls.
4. Going all in on High Draft picks for big kids is risky - they take many years to get it together, and you usually don't know until year 4 or 5 whether they are going to mkake it. Maybe just wait and trade for them then.

Look - it's all based upon Lynch WANTING to go - and I'm not sure he does, and I'd really rather keep him. But he's a cool cat, we know he's a bit left-field, we know he has a very interesting and different life off-field. Who knows? But if he has ever expressed the thought 'I'm happy here, but I'd like to go back home sometime and finish my career in Gold Coast', I think the club should look at that now.

Keeping your list up-to-date is an ongoing management process. You have to be thinking 4-5 years ahead all the time, paricularly with developing kids, like, say, how Lynch himself turned out. And, like it or not - players are just assets.

 

[M0557]

I have reported you magic for starting an alt account

He needed a new one after he closed his Phillyroo account last year....

 

[Jeremias]

FYI Markov has flown to Adelaide today.

Yes, I know he is an Adelaide boy - but think there is a reasonable chance he’ll be at Port or the Crows in 2020.

 

[SplintWhisky]

I have reported you magic for starting an alt account

How's lunch going with your insider mate?

 

[Old M8]

Butler move thats about i reckon.

Butler staying.

 

[Loomer]

So what pick compo does Brando net us?

 

[Loomer]

Really hope Freo give us something silly for Kamdyn.

 

[Barunga Bullet]

I have reported you magic for starting an alt account

do we start inboxing you now for the latest info you got today?