Recruiting Trade & Free Agency V

[footylover18]

Would happily trade our first for Beams he'd be our best mid and would give us a realistic opportunity at nabbing a flag while Hurley, Hooker and Zaharakis are still at or near the top of their game .

that would be a ridiculous trade.

pick 7 in a great draft for a player turning 29 before the start of next season who has injury issues?

horrible idea.

 

[Vindicater]

No to Beams unless he comes super super cheap (which he wont)

 

[Ambrosia]

that would be a ridiculous trade.

pick 7 in a great draft for a player turning 29 before the start of next season who has injury issues?

horrible idea.

I think our pick will be closer to 10/11. Maybe you're right and I'm bias as Beams is one of my favourite players in the league.

 

[Haychh]

Wouldn't give up a top 20 pick for Beams. Would rather take a punt on a kid in a deep draft we could potentially get 10+ years of service out of

 

[citizen-erased]

Hawks draw is rather soft, Adelaide are getting their best back and North aren't that likely to drop many games.
we have the swans, tigers and port coming up and we're down a lot of key personnel.
Can't see us moving much on the ladder, even with wins over freo & st kilda.
Maybe we jump the hawks if we beat them.

Pick 6-8 is looking likely. I don't want to give that up for anyone short of Lynch right now.
Any of Walsh, Smith, Luko, Rankine or the King's would be a nice get.

Like Collier-Dawkins too...if we could give the crows something enticing for Pick 13 and bank on him being there, that would be good too.

Perhaps 13 and Carlton's 2nd for our 2019 1st and GWS' 2nd.

 

[boncer34]

Adelaide aren't giving up 13 for a sideways trade

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Our first 8ish for Beams and a mid 20s would be my final offer.

 

[eth-dog]

Adelaide will only trade 13 for a chance at a top 5 (likely top 3) pick to get Rankine.

 

[Vindicater]

I would give up gws second for beams. Which they wont accept.

 

[citizen-erased]

Adelaide aren't giving up 13 for a sideways trade

Would give them extra bait to get earlier into this years draft
They might

 

[Studly Baker]

I'd contemplate giving them 7. If they upgraded both our picks. 30>21 and 61>39. Gives them another top 10, gives us 2 second rounders in a deep draft. Rates Beams as a late 2nd round pick. Might be able to range Archive Smith or a mcinerney type. In Dod we trust.

 

[JayJ20]

Beams is way too injury prone to spend a top 10 pick on him.

 

[boncer34]

Would give them extra bait to get earlier into this years draft
They might

I'm no doubt missing something here. But how is trading a first and 2nd for a first and 2nd giving them more bait?

Especially when the first they're giving up is 13 and I'd back us to finish higher then that next year and they're giving up a higher 2nd pick then the one they'd be recieving.

 

[Cold Sober]

Ess need to trade Bellchambers sooner than later. It's taken 10 years for him to play more than ONE great game a season, lets cash in.
Woosha can give him life membership of the ' saved my arse club ' then recruit ' MAJAAK '. because if things go to the present plan Draper will be on debut the same time Francis plays game no.6 as a 40 year old.

 

[eth-dog]

Ess need to trade Bellchambers sooner than later. It's taken 10 years for him to play more than ONE great game a season, lets cash in.
Woosha can give him life membership of the ' saved my arse club ' then recruit ' MAJAAK '. because if things go to the present plan Draper will be on debut the same time Francis plays game no.6 as a 40 year old.

The guy who re-signed for 2 year like 3 weeks ago?

 

[akiva]

Ess need to trade Bellchambers sooner than later. It's taken 10 years for him to play more than ONE great game a season, lets cash in.
Woosha can give him life membership of the ' saved my arse club ' then recruit ' MAJAAK '. because if things go to the present plan Draper will be on debut the same time Francis plays game no.6 as a 40 year old.

Why do we need to trade him??

TBC is in career best form. Hopefully, has two more years of top service in him. Hird mentioned on his podcast like a month ago that ruckman only really find their feet at 28. Draper is still developing. Not that I watch the 2's but he's no certainty to make it.

Besides, what are you expecting to get for the big Tom?

 

[Yoda_]

Not us but an in principal trade;

Carlton in; Tom Lynch
Carlton out; Pick 1, Pick 23

Adelaide out; Pick 8, Pick 13
Adelaide in; Pick 1, steak knives (Sean Lemmens?)

Gold Coast out; Tom Lynch, steak knives (Sean Lemmens?)
Gold Coast in; 8, 13, 19, 23


For the record, these are the current picks inside the top 40 for each of the three teams.

Carlton 1, 23, 26
Adelaide 8, 13, 19, 37
Gold Coast 2, 17, 25

This is the way it would stand post trading;

Carlton; 26, 65
Adelaide; Pick 1, 37
Gold Coast, 2, 8, 13, 19, 23, 37

Sets Gold Coast up with some seriously good draft picks and reset the list. Carlton gain one of the better KPF's when up and going whilst Adelaide gain that coveted pick 1 they so desperately want.

Would obviously want some steak knives thrown around.

 

[blitzer]

I'm not sure where all this Beams talk is coming from and if there's even a shred of truth to it but just pretending that I believe we are some kind of chance of getting him I'd have concerns.
1) We haven't proven that we are a good team yet. The time to trade in that 'one extra quality player' is when you're already good enough to make top 4 or at least top 6 without them. We didn't reach that level this year.
2) His age in light of point 1. He's probably only got a few years of his peak left. When we traded in Saad, Smith and Stringer they were all under 25. This made good sense because we simply aren't that good yet.
3) Consistency of performance. Beams is not a consistent performer. Well perhaps more accurately he is when he's fit which has been a major issue for him all his career.
4) His cost in terms of draft picks and salary cap. There's a good chance that our first draft pick this year would address one of our two major needs: big bodied inside midfielder and key forward. Salary cap wise - we could probably find a way to afford him but would it be worth losing someone else. Maybe we'd get him and lose a Fantasia next year.

Despite the negatives/concerns I do think he would add a hell of a lot to the team. I don't think it would take as long for him to gel as it did for us to get 3 new guys to gel into the best 22 either.

Anyone suggesting trading Bellchambers is absolutely crazy. He may never play a year as good as this one but we still shouldn't trade him because we don't exactly have a young Naitanui in the wings. We have Draper who is several years away from perhaps being an competent AFL level ruck plus Leuey who may retire. Then we have McKernan who is very undersized and now looks to be our second key forward option. We could get 3 more quality years from Bellchambers and maybe even a few extra depending on his body. An integral part of our short term success. Plus we only just re-signed him.

 

[blitzer]

Not us but an in principal trade;

Carlton in; Tom Lynch
Carlton out; Pick 1, Pick 23

Adelaide out; Pick 8, Pick 13
Adelaide in; Pick 1, steak knives (Sean Lemmens?)

Gold Coast out; Tom Lynch, steak knives (Sean Lemmens?)
Gold Coast in; 8, 13, 19, 23


For the record, these are the current picks inside the top 40 for each of the three teams.

Carlton 1, 23, 26
Adelaide 8, 13, 19, 37
Gold Coast 2, 17, 25

This is the way it would stand post trading;

Carlton; 26, 65
Adelaide; Pick 1, 37
Gold Coast, 2, 8, 13, 19, 23, 37

Sets Gold Coast up with some seriously good draft picks and reset the list. Carlton gain one of the better KPF's when up and going whilst Adelaide gain that coveted pick 1 they so desperately want.

Would obviously want some steak knives thrown around.

Why would Tom Lynch leave a basket case in Gold Coast to go to the only team that is a bigger basket case? He'll chase success and decent money rather than maximum money. If he wanted maximum money he'd already do just fine at Gold Coast.

 

[eth-dog]

Not us but an in principal trade;

Carlton in; Tom Lynch
Carlton out; Pick 1, Pick 23

Adelaide out; Pick 8, Pick 13
Adelaide in; Pick 1, steak knives (Sean Lemmens?)

Gold Coast out; Tom Lynch, steak knives (Sean Lemmens?)
Gold Coast in; 8, 13, 19, 23


For the record, these are the current picks inside the top 40 for each of the three teams.

Carlton 1, 23, 26
Adelaide 8, 13, 19, 37
Gold Coast 2, 17, 25

This is the way it would stand post trading;

Carlton; 26, 65
Adelaide; Pick 1, 37
Gold Coast, 2, 8, 13, 19, 23, 37

Sets Gold Coast up with some seriously good draft picks and reset the list. Carlton gain one of the better KPF's when up and going whilst Adelaide gain that coveted pick 1 they so desperately want.

Would obviously want some steak knives thrown around.

Why would Lynch go from one basket case to an even bigger one?

 

[Cold Sober]

The guy who re-signed for 2 year like 3 weeks ago?

Why wouldn't he re sign, read what I posted.

 

[eth-dog]

Why wouldn't he re sign, read what I posted.

Why would we trade a guy we re-signed 4 months prior to the trade period?

 

[Kakkle]

Not us but an in principal trade;

Carlton in; Tom Lynch
Carlton out; Pick 1, Pick 23

Adelaide out; Pick 8, Pick 13
Adelaide in; Pick 1, steak knives (Sean Lemmens?)

Gold Coast out; Tom Lynch, steak knives (Sean Lemmens?)
Gold Coast in; 8, 13, 19, 23


For the record, these are the current picks inside the top 40 for each of the three teams.

Carlton 1, 23, 26
Adelaide 8, 13, 19, 37
Gold Coast 2, 17, 25

This is the way it would stand post trading;

Carlton; 26, 65
Adelaide; Pick 1, 37
Gold Coast, 2, 8, 13, 19, 23, 37

Sets Gold Coast up with some seriously good draft picks and reset the list. Carlton gain one of the better KPF's when up and going whilst Adelaide gain that coveted pick 1 they so desperately want.

Would obviously want some steak knives thrown around.

Why even bother with these nonsensical hypotheticals?

 

[Yoda_]

Why would Tom Lynch leave a basket case in Gold Coast to go to the only team that is a bigger basket case? He'll chase success and decent money rather than maximum money. If he wanted maximum money he'd already do just fine at Gold Coast.

Why would Lynch go from one basket case to an even bigger one?

Money, returning home, playing with a young list. May not be ideal but surely the Blues have money to throw around.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Why even bother with these nonsensical hypotheticals?

Agreed