Recruiting Trade & Free Agency V

[eDPS]

 

[SherbertLemon]

Travis Colyer and a third rounder for kettle chips

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

I did say as a minimum he's an upgrade on Colyer. Who if available and in-form would have played plenty of games this year. You don't want a best 22, you want a best 30 because you will have injuries. And if Hall can play near his best, then he's almost certainly in our best 22.

And frankly, including Bags we have Bags, Colyer, Long and Green fighting over a single spot in the best 22, rotating small and midfield. Hall would be a strong chance to move ahead of any of them next year if Bags goes even slightly backwards.

In the bucket of small/medium forwards, wingers and miscellaneous flankers that aren't in the team right now, we presently have Laverde, Mutch, Redman, Colyer, Long, Begley and Green. We also have Stewart and McKernan who can play the more athletic link up role out of the forward line without giving away too much in ground level presence. It is without doubt the deepest area on our list.

Hall will not want to come for chips and will not want to come to be depth when he can get paid AND play seniors at another club. If we need depth, we can pluck somebody out of the VFL on a rookie spot for $80k; that's all we really need as well. Trying to recruit Hall for depth is trying to hire Michelangelo to paint your toilet.

 

[eDPS]

Travis Colyer and a third rounder for kettle chips

 

[Studly Baker]

In the bucket of small/medium forwards, wingers and miscellaneous flankers that aren't in the team right now, we presently have Laverde, Mutch, Redman, Colyer, Long, Begley and Green. We also have Stewart and McKernan who can play the more athletic link up role out of the forward line without giving away too much in ground level presence. It is without doubt the deepest area on our list.

Hall will not want to come for chips and will not want to come to be depth when he can get paid AND play seniors at another club. If we need depth, we can pluck somebody out of the VFL on a rookie spot for $80k; that's all we really need as well. Trying to recruit Hall for depth is trying to hire Michelangelo to paint your toilet.

Laverde and Begley are medium marking forwards who'll likely play as inside midfielders next year, as will Mynott

Mutch and Redman aren't forwards

Green and Jerrett likely won't be on the list next year, and Colyer may not recapture his AFL form, which came as an outside mid.

We have very good smalls in our starting lineup, arguably the best in the comp. Fantasia, Walla and even Baguley with Smith, Merrett and Langford rotating through, but we have very little depth; Jerrett and Green will go this year, Long should get another year, which leaves Long, Houlahan and Colyer as our small forward depth, hardly an inspiring group. It's an area that we definitely need to address whether through trade/FA or via the draft.

 

[eDPS]

Laverde and Begley are medium marking forwards who'll likely play as inside midfielders next year, as will Mynott

Mutch and Redman aren't forwards

Green and Jerrett likely won't be on the list next year, and Colyer may not recapture his AFL form, which came as an outside mid.

We have very good smalls in our starting lineup, arguably the best in the comp. Fantasia, Walla and even Baguley with Smith, Merrett and Langford rotating through, but we have very little depth; Jerrett and Green will go this year, Long should get another year, which leaves Long, Houlahan and Colyer as our small forward depth, hardly an inspiring group. It's an area that we definitely need to address whether through trade/FA or via the draft.

Redman was drafted as a forward, he will play where he is needed and do a good job either way i think.

 

[Studly Baker]

Redman was drafted as a forward, he will play where he is needed and do a good job either way i think.

Has said himself that he is more comfortable down back and had only played forward in the champs. I agree that he would be able to play a role up forward like Baguley is; Mynott and Guelfi are also in that basket. I think he is our best small/medium defender as he can go with most types of small/med forward whilst also giving good rebound, a good proxy for Matty Dea. The only small/med forward he'd struggle with are the super fast ones, at which point Saad or Conor can switch with him from the halfback.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Laverde and Begley are medium marking forwards who'll likely play as inside midfielders next year, as will Mynott

Mutch and Redman aren't forwards

Green and Jerrett likely won't be on the list next year, and Colyer may not recapture his AFL form, which came as an outside mid.

We have very good smalls in our starting lineup, arguably the best in the comp. Fantasia, Walla and even Baguley with Smith, Merrett and Langford rotating through, but we have very little depth; Jerrett and Green will go this year, Long should get another year, which leaves Long, Houlahan and Colyer as our small forward depth, hardly an inspiring group. It's an area that we definitely need to address whether through trade/FA or via the draft.

So let's address it by getting in an actual depth player, not by trying to recruit a psuedo-star like Aaron Hall.

Mind you, I seriously disagree that this is an area which we definitely need to address. Our next best inside midfielder after those currently in our team is Dylan Clarke. If we're going to splash third round draft picks and a sizeable chunk of salary cap, let's do it there.

A large part of the reason we're playing three small forwards and sometimes four is that our medium forwards have not been fit. When Begley and Laverde return to the seniors, it will be at the expense of guys like Baguley and Colyer. So talking up Hall to replace these guys is very much recruiting depth to replace depth. Begley and Laverde are genuine talents and small forwards slots will become medium forward slots to accommodate that.

 

[Eleven 38]

Travis Colyer and a third rounder for kettle chips

Are the chips chilli?

 

[citizen-erased]

J.Brown seems to think Hanneberry will be traded.

 

[BomberTime]

It’s a big no to Hannebury.

 

[citizen-erased]

It’s a big no to Hannebury.

more curious where he would go.
we have a few like him, so not sure we'd go after him.

not a bad one for Adelaide to look at.

 

[quotemokc]

Hannebery doesn't fit what we want to do.

A team like WC would do worse than someone like him since they have no inside extractor without Priddis

 

[TheGrizz]

Amazing that club managers can publically meet mid season and discuss players to trade,
But if a players was to announce mid year he was leaving then a large part of the footballing media and public would lose their collective minds...

 

[Studly Baker]

So let's address it by getting in an actual depth player, not by trying to recruit a psuedo-star like Aaron Hall.

Mind you, I seriously disagree that this is an area which we definitely need to address. Our next best inside midfielder after those currently in our team is Dylan Clarke. If we're going to splash third round draft picks and a sizeable chunk of salary cap, let's do it there.

A large part of the reason we're playing three small forwards and sometimes four is that our medium forwards have not been fit. When Begley and Laverde return to the seniors, it will be at the expense of guys like Baguley and Colyer. So talking up Hall to replace these guys is very much recruiting depth to replace depth. Begley and Laverde are genuine talents and small forwards slots will become medium forward slots to accommodate that.

The way I see it is that we are too reliant on Fantasia, bringing in someone like Hall will give us someone who can at least come close to covering his impact. I don't think anyone advocating for Hall actually thinks he would be a star, nor should he carry the cost of one.

And we do need to address midfield depth as well, inside and outside. As far as young players developing we have more inside leaning guys than outside types. An elite in or out leaning mid will do, our clearance numbers are fine imo could they be better? yeah, is it a liability? no.

It'll depend on how many talls they want in our forwardline, if we play with Joe, Smack and Stringer then they might prefer surrounding them with true smalls to maintain forward pressure, or they might opt for a medium for/mid like Laverde; but we won't know that until we have full list to choose from.

 

[Ants]

So let's address it by getting in an actual depth player, not by trying to recruit a psuedo-star like Aaron Hall.

Hall isn’t just for depth. We’ Pretty good for depth, outside of maybe a Myers replacement. So maybe a Wallis. Overall, we’ve got the structures and team IMO to challenge.

So what we want to do is add players who are elite, such as Gaff, or if they’re not available (usually the case) cheap options that have elite potential. Usually that means draftees or players in the cusp. But Hall also qualifies. We know his best is elite. We know he’s been playing for a rubbish club. We know except for his defensive side, everything else complements our game style. Fast, good user, inside/outside, and can play multiple positions- rotating through midfield and forward as Walla and Raz play midfield time. We know he won’t be tagged here as well.

He would cost a third or fourth rounder. It seems a no brainer to me. Similar to North picking up Higgins, or Brisbane Pyke.

Mind you, I seriously disagree that this is an area which we definitely need to address. Our next best inside midfielder after those currently in our team is Dylan Clarke. If we're going to splash third round draft picks and a sizeable chunk of salary cap, let's do it there.

Why would it be a sizeable chunk of salary? We’re not going to win any players on salary, it’s on finals chances you would sell it to him.

 

[Ants]

The way I see it is that we are too reliant on Fantasia, bringing in someone like Hall will give us someone who can at least come close to covering his impact. I don't think anyone advocating for Hall actually thinks he would be a star, nor should he carry the cost of one.

And we do need to address midfield depth as well, inside and outside. As far as young players developing we have more inside leaning guys than outside types. An elite in or out leaning mid will do, our clearance numbers are fine imo could they be better? yeah, is it a liability? no.

It'll depend on how many talls they want in our forwardline, if we play with Joe, Smack and Stringer then they might prefer surrounding them with true smalls to maintain forward pressure, or they might opt for a medium for/mid like Laverde; but we won't know that until we have full list to choose from.

Hall would also be cover for Zerrett.

 

[citizen-erased]

Hall is a good runner. But to me, Hanneberry is a similar pickup (and could be cheaper)
They tend to downhill ski a bit.

Our recent acquisitions have all been in a similar vein. Dev, Stringer, Saad. All of them compete to beat their opponent. Hall and Hanneberry tend to have their colours lowered by opposition a little too easily.

Wallis would be a better target if we're looking for a cheap mid to get.
Though his price is climbing and i wonder if Bevo/Dogs are changing their mind on getting rid of him...esp to us after Stringer's turnaround.

 

[Studly Baker]

Hall is a good runner. But to me, Hanneberry is a similar pickup (and could be cheaper)
They tend to downhill ski a bit.

Our recent acquisitions have all been in a similar vein. Dev, Stringer, Saad. All of them compete to beat their opponent. Hall and Hanneberry tend to have their colours lowered by opposition a little too easily.

Wallis would be a better target if we're looking for a cheap mid to get.
Though his price is climbing and i wonder if Bevo/Dogs are changing their mind on getting rid of him...esp to us after Stringer's turnaround.

Agree that contested ball winners should always be a priority.

Dahlhaus and Wallis would both make good targets, as those contested mid/forwards

 

[eth-dog]

Since we're on the topic of the Dogs, they should 100% be targeting Laverde. Perfect type for them. 6'3" forward/mid who can swap with Bont as their 3rd tall behind Schache and Boyd? That, a couple of outside mids and another small forward with good pressure and their list looks really good.

 

[TheGrizz]

Since we're on the topic of the Dogs, they should 100% be targeting Laverde. Perfect type for them. 6'3" forward/mid who can swap with Bont as their 3rd tall behind Schache and Boyd? That, a couple of outside mids and another small forward with good pressure and their list looks really good.

Yeah, imagine of they had a 6'3 third tall that could occasionally run through the midfield...

 

[eth-dog]

Yeah, imagine of they had a 6'3 third tall that could occasionally run through the midfield...

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I wasn't going to say it, but damn them cutting Crameri was a stupid decision. The framework is there for them, an inside midfield of Hunter, Libba, Bont, Dahlhaus/Wallis (suspect they'll keep one but not the other), Macrae and Dunkley is strong enough. McLean (I know he's playing inside but I think he'd more damaging as a receiver) and Daniel are two good outside mids but they need another good one.

 

[Mercurial89]

Since we're on the topic of the Dogs, they should 100% be targeting Laverde. Perfect type for them. 6'3" forward/mid who can swap with Bont as their 3rd tall behind Schache and Boyd? That, a couple of outside mids and another small forward with good pressure and their list looks really good.

Rekon he would be a perfect fit at Carlton too. Rotate mid forward with Cripps.

 

[eth-dog]

Rekon he would be a perfect fit at Carlton too. Rotate mid forward with Cripps.

Yeah but **** Carlton.

 

[Towno78]

Amazing that club managers can publically meet mid season and discuss players to trade,
But if a players was to announce mid year he was leaving then a large part of the footballing media and public would lose their collective minds...

They didn't meet publicly, they met privately and kept their discussions private.
No difference at all with players exploring their options via agents having private discussions with list managers. Which happens all the time.
Nothing amazing here.