Mega Thread Trade Targets 2014

[Some Idiot]

Why are we chasing guys like Blease and Jones who coudn't get a game in their own respective teams? Moreover, these teams are lower than us on the ladder.

Spangher got delisted from West Coast when they only won 3 games for the year and now he's a premiership player, the list management game isn't as simple as you imply it to be.

 

[etsal1]

That's why I said it was really hard to say! Would prefer him over Blease TBH.

Agree with the Blease bit.

I just like how last year all 3 players were clearly best 22.

I think Tutt & Jones could be, but they're not as clear cut as last year.

 

[etsal1]

Spangher got delisted from West Coast when they only won 3 games for the year and now he's a premiership player, the list management game isn't as simple as you imply it to be.

Completely agree.
Look at Sammy Docherty

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Spangher got delisted from West Coast when they only won 3 games for the year and now he's a premiership player, the list management game isn't as simple as you imply it to be.

Very good point, for every supposed turncoat that walks after 10 years, there's 5 blokes with 50 games in 5 years that leave because the don't get the opportunities.

10 of the players in this years GF were drafted as Rookies.

 

[Mr_Plow]

Why are we chasing guys like Blease and Jones who coudn't get a game in their own respective teams? Moreover, these teams are lower than us on the ladder.

Not every fringe player at inferior clubs is spuds.

 

[Mezzoculo]

Agree with the Blease bit.

I just like how last year all 3 players were clearly best 22.

I think Tutt & Jones could be, but they're not as clear cut as last year.

To be honest, there were a few here who weren't too sure Andrejs was a lock for best 22. Nek minnit...

 

[jd2010]

Admittedly haven't watched a lot of the Bulldogs or Demons last couple of years but surely Blease and Tutt are not much better than Kane Lucas?

Comparing each of their best seasons it doesn't look like they are.

Lucas 2013. 17 games. Averaged 18.1 disposals and 2.1 tackles, 9 goals, SC avg. 70
Blease 2012. 16 games. Averaged 12.6 disposals and 2.1 tackles, 19 goals, SC avg. 55
Tutt 2013. 11 games. Averaged 11.3 disposals and 1.4 tackles, 5 goals, SC avg. 43
Tutt 2014. 7 games. Averaged 14.3 disposals and 4.6 tackles, 10 goals, SC avg. 73

Tutt never really had a consistent year at all. Most games was in 2013 but his stats were much better in limited games this year. Wouldn't want to give up much for either of them if we are willing to let Lucas walk for next to nothing.

 

[zeeCFC]

Should have just kept Andy Collins!

 

[etsal1]

To be honest, there were a few here who weren't too sure Andrejs was a lock for best 22. Nek minnit...

True. But he played 20 games for Sydney. I always thought he would. Hopefully I'm just wrong about this

 

[le dominateur]

Agree with the Blease bit.

I just like how last year all 3 players were clearly best 22.

I think Tutt & Jones could be, but they're not as clear cut as last year.

They will be given every opportunity to cement a position in the 22, Jones is a better player than Watson and the small quick forward role is up for grabs as we have no one.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Should have just kept Andy Collins!

Oh gawd, now you're gunna wake up T60.

 

[zeeCFC]

Is Tutt an upgrade on Armfield?

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Is Tutt an upgrade on Armfield?

Probably not?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Not sure how I feel about F2G's rumour about Garlett for Melksham swap.

 

[jd2010]

Is Tutt an upgrade on Armfield?

You know what you are going to get with Armfield judging by Tutt's inconsistency his best days yes but most days no

 

[Cringle]

Spangher got delisted from West Coast when they only won 3 games for the year and now he's a premiership player, the list management game isn't as simple as you imply it to be.

You're joking if you think he's going to just listen to some idiot!

 

[kjr8]

Should have just kept Andy Collins!

Thanks for the depressing reminder of the Andy collins era.. [emoji20]


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[zeeCFC]

Thanks for the depressing reminder of the Andy collins era.. [emoji20]


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depressing? *hovers over ignore button*

 

[smashbox gill]

Anyone here know much about Box Hill's Sicily? I don't see him breaking into the Hawks forward line anytime soon.

was very impressive in the VFL granny. Would definately be interested in prying him away. Really impressed me looked a gun for the future

 

[Reubsblues80]

Saints hav said the number one pick is on the table was thinking Kreuzer and pick 6 for number one pick, any takers

 

[Mr_Plow]

Saints hav said the number one pick is on the table was thinking Kreuzer and pick 6 for number one pick, any takers

You were going so well with your first few posts!

 

[BringBackSimmo]

You were going so well with your first few posts!

I guess it couldn't last...

 

[davis_756]

Not sure how I feel about F2G's rumour about Garlett for Melksham swap.

shouldnt be trading anything to essendon unless its picks in return, do not want a duck either

 

[Jeremias]

There appears to be a very clear directive from MM and the list management team to target a specific type of footballer, and it is exciting to see that plan starting to come to fruition.

Regardless of the names being thrown up as options, for the first time in a number of years we seem to have a clear plan and are looking to execute that plan without wavering.

We know that MM was not as active as he'd have liked in his first off-season in charge of the club, for reasons which were out of his control. We did though start to see the movement last year when afforded greater freedom to move and that looks to be continuing this year.

It is not easy to read out activity in FA as we've only used it to bring one player in thus far and it doesn't look like we'll be adding to that this year. You couldn't accurately define our activities based on that but it may be that we see FA as a 'free-hit' of sorts to add to the upper echelon of the playing list.

We seem to be very active when it comes to accommodating younger players who express a desire to return to Victoria. The 'go-home' factor is real and we look eager to use that to our advantage if the available options fit the type we're looking to bring on board. We saw it last year with Docherty and we may see it again this year with Jaksch and/or O'Rourke.

We also look to be very active when recruiting talented players who for whatever reason have been unable to put it all together. MM has a wonderful record of getting the most out of his players and it looks as though he's backing himself in to do it again.

Last year we saw that with Everitt who had always shown glimpses of talent but had never been able to produce consistently. We got him effectively for nothing - swapping him with pick 39 for pick 32 - and immediately he showed his worth.

This year we look to be continuing the trend with Jones, Tutt and possibly even Blease.

Jones as a tall forward has some real advantages to his game. Very strong hands and a wonderful defensive work ethic when switched on. His major issue to this point in his career is that he just hasn't been switched on enough. When he's on I don't think there are any questions that he is AFL quality but we've seen he is a liability when his mind is elsewhere.

Tutt also has some standout qualities that make it possible for him to be a good AFL footballer. Very good strength, pace, endurance and a booming kick are all valuable attributes to have. Also has the ability to play in a number of positions having shown he's capable both up forward and on a wing. Early on an issue he faced was that he wasn't tough enough but he looks to have worked hard on that part of his game. Now it would appear his major issue, much like Jones, is that consistency has been lacking. He hasn't been on top of his game often enough and from what I've read in this case it may be linked to confidence and a real self-doubt that the player belongs at AFL level.

Blease I'm not a real fan of because other than his pace I don't think he brings much to the table but funny things have happened when players are given a new opportunity at a new club.

All of those three players have been linked to us and they all have certain qualities that will appeal to AFL clubs. They haven't yet been able to put it all together but that doesn't mean it can't happen in a new environment.

MM is not a miracle worker and responsibility lies firmly with the individual player to make the most of a second opportunity but if they show a desire to get their careers back on track then there aren't many better coaches to be playing under.

Some may say it's too big a risk to bring these guys across but I strongly disagree. Importantly we're not going down this path and sacrificing bringing youth into the club through the draft. If we were doing that then questions would be asked and rightly so, however what we're really talking about here is moving on unwanted players or later picks for these players. To me that represents a very low risk move with potentially very high reward. Sure, not every move will come off but that's no different to taking the picks to the draft and it certainly doesn't mean we should shy away from exploring every opportunity to improve our squad.

The player movement period drags on and can be unbearable at times but for the first time in many years we appear to have a clear plan on how best to move forward and to me that is genuinely exciting.

 

[Reubsblues80]

Ha

You were going so well with your first few posts!

haha would u not consider it