Transfer discussion thread.

[chef]

Na, multiple sources on twitter. Normally I wouldn't believe it but there's a few that had the same info.

He wouldn't sign a 3.5 year deal if he was off in 6 months no matter what. Could have just signed 18 months if he wanted that.

Fair enough, IMO he'll have something in his contract allowing him to move if you guys are relegated or a CL club wants him at the end of the season.

If so it's seem a win/win for us, we get to assess him in the Prem for 6 months. I guess time will tell whats really going in.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Lindegaard and Amos have been told to find a new club. United have a handy 17 year old keeper to be 3rd choice next year.

 

[Tulip]

I don't think compensation applies when you transfer to a different association.

Ezequiel Fryers went to Standard Liege (?) for nothing, and was then sold to Spurs as they didn't want to pay United the compensation.

IIRC, United were demanding about £15m for their 'youth prodigy'. Remember how angry Fergie was

 

[Tulip]

SAF was shitty with the player more than anything. Our relationship with Spurs has been awful ever since Levy joined Spurs.

It's been bad since you took Carrick, and irreparable since you intercepted Berbatov at the airport when he was on the way to City.

Can't really blame Levy, or trace that back to 01.

 

[Jatz]

Fair enough, IMO he'll have something in his contract allowing him to move if you guys are relegated or a CL club wants him at the end of the season.

If so it's seem a win/win for us, we get to assess him in the Prem for 6 months. I guess time will tell whats really going in.

Everything that's being suggested has said that unless we're relegated, there's no clause.

I very much doubt we sign him to a 3.5 year deal for you to pick him up in 6 months. Just doesn't make any sense. We wouldn't sign so that Chelsea can have a win/win.

It's impossible to know unless they come out and say though.

 

[ossie_21]

As Chef said though, I don't think Chelsea would be bothered if he didn't adjust immediately to the EPL. Though Chelsea do seem to be gambling on Leicester going down.

Hardly a gamble...they will just buy someone else to loan out

 

[Bojan KantKick]

It's been bad since you took Carrick, and irreparable since you intercepted Berbatov at the airport when he was on the way to City.

Can't really blame Levy, or trace that back to 01.

By took i assume you mean bought. We paid 30.75m for Berbarotica. It's nobodies fault but Levy's that he sells players on the last hour of the transfer window making finding a replacement impossible. We have paid fair value at the very least if not overs for Spurs players.

Levy is so stupid and hates us so much he sold Bale to Real and rejected United's higher transfer bid. He did the same with Modric.

He's been holding you back for years.

 

[Tulip]

By took i assume you mean bought. We paid 30.75m for Berbarotica. It's nobodies fault but Levy's that he sells players on the last hour of the transfer window making finding a replacement impossible. We have paid fair value at the very least if not overs for Spurs players.

Levy is so stupid and hates us so much he sold Bale to Real and rejected United's higher transfer bid. He did the same with Modric.

He's been holding you back for years.

What a load of shite.

Bale didn't want to go to United, he wanted to go to Madrid. Fact.

I don't know if you can handle that, so you might want to sit down. He didn't want to play for United.

Besides, why accept your bid when he was already in Spain?

Carrick we see as 'took' because big bad Fergie stepped in and said he was yours.

The £31m you paid for Berbatov was legit, but that doesn't mean your tactics were. City were going to pay the same amount, if not a few million more, before they signed Robinho. I have a problem with how late Levy left it too, but that doesn't excuse United.

If you can't see why having Modric away at Real, rather than strengthening a positional and geographical rival (Chelsea, by the way, not you), was beneficial then you look at the world with remarkably blinkered eyes.

 

[chef]

If you can't see why having Modric away at Real, rather than strengthening a positional and geographical rival (Chelsea, by the way, not you), was beneficial then you look at the world with remarkably blinkered eyes.

Yeah, it was Chelsea who Modric wanted to go to with us having a £40m bid knocked back the season prior to him being sold to RM.

 

[chef]

Everything that's being suggested has said that unless we're relegated, there's no clause.

I very much doubt we sign him to a 3.5 year deal for you to pick him up in 6 months. Just doesn't make any sense. We wouldn't sign so that Chelsea can have a win/win.

It's impossible to know unless they come out and say though.

Yep, I guess time will tell.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

What a load of shite.

Bale didn't want to go to United, he wanted to go to Madrid. Fact.

I don't know if you can handle that, so you might want to sit down. He didn't want to play for United.

Besides, why accept your bid when he was already in Spain?

Carrick we see as 'took' because big bad Fergie stepped in and said he was yours.

The £31m you paid for Berbatov was legit, but that doesn't mean your tactics were. City were going to pay the same amount, if not a few million more, before they signed Robinho. I have a problem with how late Levy left it too, but that doesn't excuse United.

If you can't see why having Modric away at Real, rather than strengthening a positional and geographical rival (Chelsea, by the way, not you), was beneficial then you look at the world with remarkably blinkered eyes.

Mate, we bid for Bale the season before he went to Real. Then again when he left. Same with Luka Modric. Why not accept a transfer bid that is higher than the rest so you strengthen your squad as much as possible.

Can you elaborate on Carrick with Fergie? not sure what the reference is.

We bid 28m on the first day of the window. Berba wanted to come to united from day 1 of the window. You squeezed out an extra 2.75m at the cost of your teams season.

A lot of teams use that tactic re: Berba interception. Look at Willian & Ronaldinho. After the Fryers fiasco, anything goes.

The Modric and Bale to United stories are straight from Arry.

 

[pantskyle]

What a load of shite.

Bale didn't want to go to United, he wanted to go to Madrid. Fact.

I don't know if you can handle that, so you might want to sit down. He didn't want to play for United.

Besides, why accept your bid when he was already in Spain?

Carrick we see as 'took' because big bad Fergie stepped in and said he was yours.

The £31m you paid for Berbatov was legit, but that doesn't mean your tactics were. City were going to pay the same amount, if not a few million more, before they signed Robinho. I have a problem with how late Levy left it too, but that doesn't excuse United.

If you can't see why having Modric away at Real, rather than strengthening a positional and geographical rival (Chelsea, by the way, not you), was beneficial then you look at the world with remarkably blinkered eyes.

Berba wanted to play for United, not City.

I don't think anyone can say that Levy hasn't held Spurs back. Absolute rabble at times, and I actually like them.

 

[Jatz]

Pretty interesting read regarding Chelsea's transfer business. Not so much relating to Kramaric but further down it discusses their transfer business and sum it up really well. Courtouis and Zouma are the only players in the squad that have successfully gone out on loan and made the squad for this season.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...er-to-leicester-is-a-warning-sign-for-chelsea

 

[chef]

Pretty interesting read regarding Chelsea's transfer business. Not so much relating to Kramaric but further down it discusses their transfer business and sum it up really well. Courtouis and Zouma are the only players in the squad that have successfully gone out on loan and made the squad for this season.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...er-to-leicester-is-a-warning-sign-for-chelsea

Emenalo's overhaul only happened 3 or 4 seasons ago, so it's not too bad. Zouma and Courtois look 10+year players. van Ginkel will be a player for us too IMO(Rom and KDB would be in this group under a different manager)

Lukaku and KDB netted the club 40+m profit, T.Hazard rumoured to get a 9× return. Bertrand will be sold for profit too as will a few others.

Our loaning system is quite profitable and made the club £9m last season, its not all about supplying the first team with players. We are always going to need to be buying ready made WC players, but guys like Christensen, Ake, RLC, Baker etc will come into the squad and play if good enough.

 

[Jatz]

Emenalo's overhaul only happened 3 or 4 seasons ago, so it's not too bad. Zouma and Courtois look 10+year players. van Ginkel will be a player for us too IMO(Rom and KDB would be in this group under a different manager)

Lukaku and KDB netted the club 40+m profit, T.Hazard rumoured to get a 900% return. Bertrand will be sold for profit too as will a few others.

Our loaning system is quite profitable and made the club £9m last season, its not all about supplying the first team with players. We are always going to need to be buying ready made WC players, but guys like Christensen, Ake, RLC, Baker etc will come into the squad and play if good enough.

That was the whole point. You're doing it really well but players should be aware that there is a pretty good chance they'll never play for Chelsea if they go there. Whether that starts to discourage them, time will tell.

 

[chef]

That was the whole point. You're doing it really well but players should be aware that there is a pretty good chance they'll never play for Chelsea if they go there. Whether that starts to discourage them, time will tell.

I guess the players also know that they'll be looked after financially, developed at the appropriate level and if not good enough for Chelsea sold easily to a club that wants them.

It's not like they'll rot into oblivion.

 

[Jatz]

I guess the players also know that they'll be looked after financially, developed at the appropriate level and if not good enough for Chelsea sold easily to a club that wants them.

It's not like they'll rot into oblivion.

No of course not. There's definitely two ways to look at it from a player's point of view though.

 

[chef]

No of course not. There's definitely two ways to look at it from a player's point of view though.

Yeah, fair enough I don't see most players having a problem with it.

 

[Loonerty]

Young players should understand anyway that it takes a lot of effort and hard work to be good enough for the Chelsea first team. Going into signing for the club they know that. It's up to them to impress on their loan spells enough to be kept for the squad. And once they do get included in the squad to again impress and lock down a spot.

This is something Lukaku for example didn't want to do. Preferred to go to a team where he would have no competition for a starting spot and good for him. He gets to play where he wants to (important for you Jatz), Chelsea make a 10 million pound profit.

 

[LFTWNG11]

Reports out of Spain suggest that Suarez may be the fall guy for Barcelona in the summer. Sounds a bit far-fetched, but would he go back to Liverpool? How much would Liverpool have to pay to have him back?

 

[glenferry23]

Reports out of Spain suggest that Suarez may be the fall guy for Barcelona in the summer. Sounds a bit far-fetched, but would he go back to Liverpool? How much would Liverpool have to pay to have him back?

Ballotelli + £20m.

 

[Zidane98]

Ballotelli + £20m.

Could possibly include Lambert at a stretch.

 

[Magma]

if milner wants to leave the club then we shouldn't be scrambling hand over foot to keep him.

he would've played about 200 games, consistently played at a high level in a team competing and winning league titles and cups. he's getting paid rather handsomely and im sure his new contract offer reflects that too.

if he wants to turn down a multi year deal with a title contending team at the age of 29, that's on him, not us. he won't get similar anywhere else.

 

[SM]

As a player I would have no issue going to Chelsea even if I never played for them. Look at the number of players Chelsea has sold to clubs where they've made quite a profit, and those players are now doing pretty well. Chelsea brings these players through its system, ensures they get loaned out to decent clubs, and really looks after these players in every way possible. Personally I'd rather be in a system like that than thrust myself into the English game with a club battling relegation where I could struggle to get going in the first six months and then ruin my reputation.

 

[Cruyff14]

Would take James Milner any day of the week.