MRP / Trib. Tribunal Thread - rules and offences discombobulation

[Waspy79]

“The MRO added: "It could not have been reasonably foreseen that Lipinski’s head would make forceful contact with the ground as a result of Meek’s conduct."

I have no idea how or why that is relevant for what was blatantly careless conduct. Pure biased spin.

The same argument is better applied to Houston’s legal bump not Pepper’s illegal bump.

 

[portforever]

Dislocate a players shoulder or break their collarbone when going the bump should be out for the same amount of time with that perspective, you know, for equality.

Fact that a fair and legal bump resulted in an opponents injury shouldn't matter as that's the reality of combat.

It could be suggested that the injured player hasn't done all they could have in terms of duty of care by not protecting themselves.

Yes it would always be who did the bump when going for the ball which is more about the intent. If Port there would be intent to hurt not go for the ball excuse.

 

[Frank Hansen II]

twice last season our players were made examples of
By the media, SPP was labelled a “POS”
And by the tribunal
SPP got 4 & zero weight was given to mitigating circumstances ie Keane was slung into his path
Houston’s bump was deemed to be perfectly legal by the officiating umpire according to the rules of the game
But somehow drew a 5 week penalty for breaching the laws of the game
And there is sadly the AFL media’s institutionalised racism shining through bright and loud, like a dog whistle for racist scum to follow and to promote
Yet one of ours is concussed and “he deserved it, there were mitigating circumstances, it’s afl touch footy, it’s a captains responsibility to make them earn it, etc etc etc and suddenly the mitigating circumstances carry weight
Then Eddie declares laws like right of way, DBJ shouldn’t have been there & Sinn was weak for being knocked out by super humanly strong islander
The afl tribunal is a complete load of shit. Jobs for the ambulance chasers. The average footy supporter could sit down with a couple of mates, drink a carton & come up with more sensible & consistent results

We also get the 'potential for injury' suspensions that no-one else seems to cop

 

[SC_Power]

Lloyd Meek gets off despite being an hour late

I think you are exaggerating just a touch….



… maybe 45 minutes…..

 

[El_Scorcho]

I think you are exaggerating just a touch….

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… maybe 45 minutes…..

It's absolutely disgraceful that a player can be this late, concuss his opponent and get nothing.

 

[GremioPower]

which is more about the intent.

Intent only matters when there a foul. If the play is legal, intent is irrelevant.

The assumption should always be that one is trying to play within the laws of the game. This assumption can be challenged only when the law is broken. It would be absolutely ridiculous otherwise.

“He wanted to hurt the opponent, but ended up playing it cleanly.” Well, lucky incompetent bastard…

“But the opponent got hurt anyway!” Well, REALLY lucky incompetent bastard (and unlucky poor fellow)…

 

[GremioPower]

It's absolutely disgraceful that a player can be this late, concuss his opponent and get nothing.

When we deserve it, I’m ok. But the inconsistency is infuriating. How can I know whether we deserved it, if similar plays are judged wildly different?

I need to use my own sense of justice every time. This feels wrong, even when I eventually agree with the ruling. It’s personally healthier to simply ignore the MRO and the Tribunal.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

If they didn't suspend Pearce , how could they suspend Meek? At least he looked like he was trying to spoil.

And yes I know the MRO suspended Pearce, but they've learned their lesson.

 

[El_Scorcho]

If they didn't suspend Pearce , how could they suspend Meek? At least he looked like he was trying to spoil.

And yes I know the MRO suspended Pearce, but they've learned their lesson.

Just waiting for a Port player to do something nowhere near as late so they can reset expectations with a nice big 5 week holiday.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Just waiting for a Port player to do something nowhere near as late so they can reset expectations with a nice big 5 week holiday.

Precedent is not an argument!

 

[RossFC]

West’s Harvey Griffiths has accepted a reprimand for striking Port’s Logan Evans at Alberton on Sunday.

 

[RossFC]

Port’s Jez McLennan has been offered a $125 fine for striking the Eagles’ Zac Buck at Alberton on Saturday.

Jez McLennan (Port) – Striking
Conduct Intentional
Impact Low
Contact Body
Base Sanction $125 Fine
Early Guilty Plea $125 Fine

 

[ClintEastwood]

It's absolutely disgraceful that a player can be this late, concuss his opponent and get nothing.

Worse than disgraceful. It's corrupt.

 

[snozulu]

McVee gets off after his bump on Richards. Not even a fine

 

[Festerz]

Port’s Jez McLennan has been offered a $125 fine for striking the Eagles’ Zac Buck at Alberton on Saturday.

Jez McLennan (Port) – Striking
Conduct Intentional
Impact Low
Contact Body
Base Sanction $125 Fine
Early Guilty Plea $125 Fine

Very lucky in the current environment.

 

[OneGreatClub]

twice last season our players were made examples of
By the media, SPP was labelled a “POS”
And by the tribunal
SPP got 4 & zero weight was given to mitigating circumstances ie Keane was slung into his path
Houston’s bump was deemed to be perfectly legal by the officiating umpire according to the rules of the game
But somehow drew a 5 week penalty for breaching the laws of the game
And there is sadly the AFL media’s institutionalised racism shining through bright and loud, like a dog whistle for racist scum to follow and to promote
Yet one of ours is concussed and “he deserved it, there were mitigating circumstances, it’s afl touch footy, it’s a captains responsibility to make them earn it, etc etc etc and suddenly the mitigating circumstances carry weight
Then Eddie declares laws like right of way, DBJ shouldn’t have been there & Sinn was weak for being knocked out by super humanly strong islander
The afl tribunal is a complete load of shit. Jobs for the ambulance chasers. The average footy supporter could sit down with a couple of mates, drink a carton & come up with more sensible & consistent results

Yeah, it stinks.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

MRO Michael Christian was on Whateley's show yesterday. If you want to listen to the whole 28 minutes the link is below, but these 3 snippets on Twitter give you an idea about how he assess things, with others at the AFL it seems, but they are never named.

He's happy with changes to tackles and his watchlist now has on it pushes in the back/side that cause injury.




You can bump, body on body is less controversial, but the hit player being in a vulnerable position and "excessive force" are still factors that could lead to a suspension.




Potential to cause injury gets you an upgrade on impact from the lower level of pain / injury a player might ended up with from a collision, compared to if the potential injury ended up happening. If is such a grey and inconsistent criteria the MRO can and has applied in the past.

 

[OneGreatClub]

No charges for Dante for the collision from the MRO

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Thank goodness sanity prevails

 

[gbear]

Thank goodness sanity prevails

And nor should he, as Saad ran into him.

 

[danman69]

Common sense prevails

Will have a few weeks rest after that high bump

Lucky you aren't on the MRP

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[Lefti93]

Thank goodness sanity prevails

HE'S ESCAPED!!!!

 

[Waspy79]

Common sense prevails

Lucky you aren't on the MRP

Lucky Visentini

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

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They don't always publish the full explanation on the AFL website.

Glad they did this time. Mind you if they didn't and gave him a fine or a suspension they would have looked stupid.