Umpiring

[smasha]

Umpire number 13,Nick Brown.

Either he was cheating or the person sitting in the stands with a mic cheating.

That's as pure cheating as you can get because both incidents were incredibly similar but two very different outcomes.

No way they can hide from the cheating on display.

Media have the cupboards open,rugs sweeped and lips superglued tight but we can see it.

Alot of Richmond fans drew the same scenario before the game began and stayed home knowing why spend money on a few drinks and food and face the frustration of that BS?

CFL are shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[Groupie_]

Nuff said.

the comments in that

 

[Waca Jr]

We really need to piss off KFC as a sponsor on back of jumper and get onto KY Jelly or 4 Seasons condoms for the reaming this club cops week in week out, year in year out

 

[Tiges1229]

It's so rubbish this year I don't think I'm gonna watch anymore games at all.

Yep I’m to that stage as well ****ing over it

 

[tigs2010]

Nuff said.

Wonder if they'll show these to Razor Ray on 360 or just throw up some easy bullshit to say they're correct or he had no line of sight bla bla lol

 

[Tiges1229]

Umpire number 13,Nick Brown.

Either he was cheating or the person sitting in the stands with a mic cheating.

That's as pure cheating as you can get because both incidents were incredibly similar but two very different outcomes.

No way they can hide from the cheating on display.

Media have the cupboards open,rugs sweeped and lips superglued tight but we can see it.

Alot of Richmond fans drew the same scenario before the game began and stayed home knowing why spend money on a few drinks and food and face the frustration of that BS?

CFL are shooting themselves in the foot.

Mate there was another like that , hawks player take on the Tiger defence gets tackled no free ball up , literally exact same situation Tiger player takes on hawks players gets pinned , both were actually holding the ball but of course only hawks get the free , they literally identical

 

[Tiges1229]

Umpire number 13,Nick Brown.

Either he was cheating or the person sitting in the stands with a mic cheating.

That's as pure cheating as you can get because both incidents were incredibly similar but two very different outcomes.

No way they can hide from the cheating on display.

Media have the cupboards open,rugs sweeped and lips superglued tight but we can see it.

Alot of Richmond fans drew the same scenario before the game began and stayed home knowing why spend money on a few drinks and food and face the frustration of that BS?

CFL are shooting themselves in the foot.

Yep there were hardly any Tiger supporters there yesterday just ****wit piss and shit supporters gutter trash campaigners all of them

 

[sabso]

the comments in that

 

[GhostofJimJess]

I've been saying it for years ... we need to get better at being paid free kicks that are not really there.

Numerous other clubs have mastered it, and sit at the top of the ladder accordingly.

 

[smasha]

We really need to piss off KFC as a sponsor on back of jumper and get onto KY Jelly or 4 Seasons condoms for the reaming this club cops week in week out, year in year out

Men's nappies.

 

[RobsJourney]

the comments in that

This GIF probably sums up our treatment by the umpires perfectly since 2017.

The tackle on Newcombe probably was holding the ball, wasn't even pinned to him and he made no attempt.

The very same umpire then pings Hopper seconds later despite the fact he's also had no prior and is being gang-tackled with an arm held.

Honestly AFL get ****ed, yesterday we sucked but the umpiring was an adjective far more disgusting than "unwatchable".

Cheats.

 

[jetbhag]

Just watched one highlight of the ‘brawl’ so Italy legged Rioli and got a free and a 50. That’s twice Riolis been legged and the umpires just let it go.

The fact the free kick wasn’t reversed is even worse. Last year Cumberland shirt fronts an Adelaide player and the umpire couldn’t reverse it any quicker.

FMD so glad I don’t get a chance to watch our games anymore. What’s the point when it’s never a level playing field….

 

[Wallaby]

The Sicily tackle on Rioli is exactly the same as the one they paid AGAINST the tackler in the Collingwood Geelong game (watch the last 2 mins). Each time, the tackler didn't get hold of or impede the player properly, until the player was tripped up by the attempted tackle slipping below the knees.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

Nuff said.

nothing wrong with the call. in the rule book it says that's a free for HTB if player is in a tiges jumper. don't know what you guys are complaining about

 

[sabso]

Joel Wilson could switch from umpiring cricket to afl and it would be an improvement

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

Easy to see how hawforn get way overs in frees every week. Any incidental head contact they recoil like they’ve been hit with a brick to make sure umpire sees it , and being as thick as a brick dopey umps fall for it every time

Mitchell must have been speaking to Arteta

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Umpire number 13,Nick Brown.

Either he was cheating or the person sitting in the stands with a mic cheating.

That's as pure cheating as you can get because both incidents were incredibly similar but two very different outcomes.

No way they can hide from the cheating on display.

Media have the cupboards open,rugs sweeped and lips superglued tight but we can see it.

Alot of Richmond fans drew the same scenario before the game began and stayed home knowing why spend money on a few drinks and food and face the frustration of that BS?

CFL are shooting themselves in the foot.

There is only one explanation for that Hopper free against - that the No 13 umpire was consciously on the lookout for a free kick to Hawthorn, but not Richmond.

There is no other plausible rationale. It is literally the only psychological reason he could pay one and not the other.

 

[archer the tiger]

Fucj the AFL & AFL Barwon 2 shit organisations

 

[Drunken Wookie]

There is only one explanation for that Hopper free against - that the No 13 umpire was consciously on the lookout for a free kick to Hawthorn, but not Richmond.

There is no other plausible rationale. It is literally the only psychological reason he could pay one and not the other.

thats the big problem with umpiring as I see it. there are too many umpires who go out there looking for free-kicks to pay.
trying to find an excuse to blow their little whistles. the best umps have always been the ones that let the game flow and just pay the obvious ones. the game is over adjudicated to the point where it's more a display of umpiring with a footy game sometimes happening in between whistles.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

thats the big problem with umpiring as I see it. there are too many umpires who go out there looking for free-kicks to pay.
trying to find an excuse to blow their little whistles. the best umps have always been the ones that let the game flow and just pay the obvious ones. the game is over adjudicated to the point where it's more a display of umpiring with a footy game sometimes happening in between whistles.

it's just so annoying. every big contest (marking, 2 players going for a loose ball, etc) it's like they think they have to call a free. having a different interpretation of not-15 depending whether the offending player is in their forward or defensive 50, or the team has been wasting time. itching to call HTB or high after repeat stoppages just to try and get the ball clear of the area. calling high frees for a hand on the outer shoulder. calling high frees for every blatant duck. the list goes on. and it is all due to AFL directives, they obviously get told to do this stuff, it's calculated. total joke. the umps are now trying to dictate play rather than just call the rules

 

[Meteoric Rise]

it's just so annoying. every big contest (marking, 2 players going for a loose ball, etc) it's like they think they have to call a free. having a different interpretation of not-15 depending whether the offending player is in their forward or defensive 50, or the team has been wasting time. itching to call HTB or high after repeat stoppages just to try and get the ball clear of the area. calling high frees for a hand on the outer shoulder. calling high frees for every blatant duck. the list goes on. and it is all due to AFL directives, they obviously get told to do this stuff, it's calculated. total joke. the umps are now trying to dictate play rather than just call the rules

On average there is a fee kick paid for every 2 minutes of actual play in 2025 so far. It is about every 17-18 disposals there is a free kick paid. But that is just free kicks, and even those are awarded very inconsistently, Dunkley actually holding Rowell at stoppages no free kick, slight arm around in a marking contest, instant free kick - unless you are a Richmond key position player of course(more on that later in the post.)

Then you get all the other now you see it now you don't stuff the umps choose to pay some weeks and not others - mark adjudications, run too far without bouncing, encroachment on protected area, failure to stand, whether the ball has been kicked 15m before being marked, deliberate out of bounds.

The way the AFL is umpired is amateurish and it is a total mess. It would be almost impossible to mismanage umpiring worse than what we have seen these last few years, where in one block of games in one season the umpiring is almost unrecognisable from the umpiring in another block of games in another season. Stand, dissent, protected area, HTB, run to far, 15m for a mark, the way all these things and more are umpired somehow changes radically without the rules changing.




But have a look at this:

Our ruck and 4 KPP's on the weekend's combined free kick tally in a Richmond jumper(all 5 of ours have negative free kick tallies) compared to their Hawthorn counterparts....

Nankervis, Lynch(both just whilst at Richmond) Balta, Miller, Faull combined 413 free kicks for, 570 free kicks against. On average our KPP & ruck win 5 free kicks per game but are penalised 7 times.

Gunston, Meek, Chol, Barass, Battle(all whilst at Hawks only) 287 for 241 against. On average the Hawks quintet wins 4.5 free kicks per game but is only penalised 3.5 times.

We are asked to believe this group of Tigers infringes the rules 100% more often than the same Hawks cohort of positional players. Like, what?

That is the shit we are up against, just in their ruck and KPP's alone we are starting 3 free kicks behind them per match. Which is absolutely ludicrous seeing our guys are more highly rated and these players are all more or less trying to do the same things against the same cohort of opponents. If you count Sicily as a KPP for them it just gets worse as his career free kick tally is 216 for 163 against.

In the match on the weekend the Hawks sextet of rucks & KPP's had a 10-3 free kick count. That is a bloodbath.

The Tigers quintet of KPP's & Rucks...4 frees for 9 against.

Then you move to the other key area, the inside midfielders.

Taranto, Hopper, Dow, McIntosh, Lalor 3 frees for 5 against.

v

Newcombe, Worpel, Hustwaite, Ward 6 frees for 3 against.


So the most critical areas of the ground the hawks player got 16 free kicks for, 6 against. Richmond got 7 frees for, 14 against.

But the most important part of that is Hawks got 16 Tigers got 7 frees in the key contests. That would be a 3+ goal difference right there.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

There is only one explanation for that Hopper free against - that the No 13 umpire was consciously on the lookout for a free kick to Hawthorn, but not Richmond.

There is no other plausible rationale. It is literally the only psychological reason he could pay one and not the other.

You nailed it, it was as simple as that, and the other 80 minutes of play and overall free kick count confirmed the same.

 

[Do the Dew]

Great analysis. The upshot of this is that if it is statistically examined by a statistician their conclusion would be cheating and collusion. It is not mathematically possible without that

Roksman did the analysis on twitter and also posts here.

Every other side gives away (I think) 2 standard deviations less than their average free kicks when they play us. Basically, they play a way cleaner game against us and then will revert to the mean the very next game.

Oppo supporters and media are useless. Every argument raised by them is garbage:

• Their players play on the edge: We've turned over just about our whole list.
• It's the way they play: We changed coach, gamestyle, players etc. Doesn't matter if we're 1st or 18th, same result.
• Dimma factor: At Gold Coast they're top of the league in free kick differential.
• You just give away more: In general we don't care about what we give away, we care about what isn't received. Roksman's analysis proves that.

Take Lynch for example. Playing the same position and way his entire career.

• At Gold Coast he averaged 1.13 frees for per game and 1.18 frees against per game.
• At Richmond he averages 1.15 frees for per game and 1.39 frees against per game.

He's receiving basically the same amount despite a lot more ball coming his way playing in a much better team but is giving away more despite playing against the same defenders.

Lynch is a microcosm of the issue. From 2017 to now, every variable has changed except the jumper, however the result is the same. If that's not bias then I don't know what is.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

FkcukkinG cheating quimfaced R souls.

Subtitles please!

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

thats the big problem with umpiring as I see it. there are too many umpires who go out there looking for free-kicks to pay.
trying to find an excuse to blow their little whistles. the best umps have always been the ones that let the game flow and just pay the obvious ones. the game is over adjudicated to the point where it's more a display of umpiring with a footy game sometimes happening in between whistles.