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TradeDraft said:
Did anyone see Jetta Throw his Headback and Staging for High Free?

Glad the Umps did not buy that Crap
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I hate when players do this.

I also think if a player contributes to a free kick, ie: going into a tackle and lowering your head they shouldn't pay a free. Prime example, Pendles (my favourite player) did it today on the wing in the first qtr I think and I found myself saying "didn't realise Adam Selwood played for the pies" :eek:
 
It's always going to be like this, unfortunately. To be fair, they can't see everything but consistency is the key. If they pin a Collingwood player for HTB then they should do the same if it happens with the opponent. It rarelyoes and it's a blight on the game. Luckily, for the Anzac day match, they let it flow a bit. Some dubious decisions here and there but hey, what game doesn't have that these days?
 
My only complaint was the frees paid in the ruck contest.
This is a league wide issue though which continuously annoys the crap out of me.
Everyone, even the combatants, concedes these frees are a raffle and an inconsistent raffle at best.

With the AFL consistently interfering with the rules in the name of getting a free flowing contest this area seems to have completely missed any scrutiny and remains real blight on the game.
 

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Umpiring was as good as i've seen TBH, they paid the ones they had to, was very few soft ones paid, we got lucky with 2 soft 50s and the Bombers got one, the kicking in danger was a howler though.
 
The umpires operated very well, with only a few poor decisions. Until the AFL recognises that it has made an error in its all out push for speed in the game though, there will be a continued degeneration of the game into a visual clone of rugby. Yesterday, the umpires did the right thing and let the game flow, but the "everyone on the ball" nature of modern football made it a cluttered mess for a lot of the time.
As many have said, ruck contests are usually and were this time, incomprehensibly adjudicated, and Jolly is frequently the loser for no discernable reason.
The revision to high tackle judgenments to avoid rewarding duckers is good. This is a return to sanity, and there has been an immediate player response to avoid doing it. (One could say, another failed fiddle with the rules.)
Further revise to avoid rewarding the shruggers. Again, return to the past.
The encroachment rule application is interesting, and is an advance. The team tactic to swap the man on the mark for one coming from behind does need to be stopped, and the encroachment rule seems to do it.
I was also really pleased to see the speed with which umpires called play on when players moved off the mark line. It was consistent and correct. Now their boss needs to think through the unfair advantage that goalkickers take in set shot positions by playing on after their (generous) 20 seconds and before the 30. I believe that if they take this time, that no other kicker gets, then they should be required to kick over the mark.

So, overall, I don't think a roast is in order here.
 
I thought the umpiring at the start of the game was great besides the fletcher kicking in danger non decision.

Otherwise I found they let the game go without paying too many free's early on just the way I like it. I cant stand anymore than soft free kicks or soft 50m penalties.

Cant really comment on the rest of game cause I didn't see all of it.
 
Would love for someone to find it, but the Jetta stage was pretty ordinary on his part...But that's irrelevant to the thread, because this thread is roasting the umpires, and they didn't buy into Jetta's stage, ergo, good umpiring.

Thought the umps were pretty good yesterday, liked it how they put the whistle away-the only free kick that really ground my gears was the Swan kicking in danger when Fletcher got away with what was arguably a worse one.

Overall, good stuff umps :thumbsu:
 
It was fairly good, there were some dodgy ones. Still don't know how Heppell wasn't holding the ball in that first quarter, the ump said he handballed it. lol, he wasn't even close to handballing it.

Good to see they are crying over the umpring on the Bombers board, even though they got the run of it. Apparently Maxy and Harry were allowed to scrag all day and nothing was said, yet the Bombers got penalised everytime for it. Not sure which of our massive 10 frees were for scragging though :eek:
 
entourage said:
Would love for someone to find it, but the Jetta stage was pretty ordinary on his part...But that's irrelevant to the thread, because this thread is roasting the umpires, and they didn't buy into Jetta's stage, ergo, good umpiring.

Thought the umps were pretty good yesterday, liked it how they put the whistle away-the only free kick that really ground my gears was the Swan kicking in danger when Fletcher got away with what was arguably a worse one.

Overall, good stuff umps :thumbsu:
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The Jetta one was in the second quarter when he was tackled in the forward 50. Didn't notice it during live play, only noticed it when they showed the slow mo replay and he threw his head back when the tackle was laid.

The umpiring to me was pretty good all day considering the hardness that both teams put into it, they were pretty consistent and let most things go, only glaring error was that Fletcher kicking in danger non call.

As for the OP's claim that we only won by one point due the umpiring, that is totally incorrect. We only won by 1 point because of our ordinary goalkicking, ordinary delivery into the forward 50, and Essendons relentless never say die attitude.
 
The umpires have absolutley no feel for the game. I felt this yesterday as, they killed momentum mutiple times the pies had the bombers at there mercy, extreme pressure not rewarded, hard fair tackles that by the letter of the law are holding the ball. The result, play on, mob pack forms, loose ball somewhow ends up in opposition hands, long kick forward, Davey over the back mark goal....This is sole reason the bombers were any chance, and some poor goal kick from Sinclair and Dawes The umpires as much as people like to say put the whistle away is such bullshit . As soon as the umpires follow the laws to the letter the better.. A side note the second video goal review the blair one , the same umpire for the goldsack decision, did anyone notice his disgust when it was given a goal. this why the game needs neutral umpires from overseas, cricket style... NO JOKE..
 

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Talking about the umpiring...I just noticed the field umpire's expression when Blair's goal was confirmed. He looked disappointed!
 
Umpiring for the most part of the game was good, a few errors but they are like the players. Not perfect and will make mistakes.

That Fletcher airswing should of been a free, but then again Heppell was blatantly pushed in the back 40 metre out in the last min.
 
High Ryder said:
Umpiring for the most part of the game was good, a few errors but they are like the players. Not perfect and will make mistakes.

That Fletcher airswing should of been a free, but then again Heppell was blatantly pushed in the back 40 metre out in the last min.
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Generally by late into the first quarter, Bronx Cheers are heard you know the tone for the game has been set, If your still hearing them into the last you know the umpires have shafted your club.. Fans are not stupid they know whats a free and what is not. Pure footy instinct overide club bias. When opposition fans comment the umpires were good when the cenus says the opposite, your club was shafted, and the old chestnut there were terrible decisions for both teams your club was shafted. What if the bombers got up would your comments be stfu the better team won. Please the pies were robbed of a 30 point win, percentage will play a major factor after r23 Soft draws to other clubs could cost. The result will not mirror the next time the pies play the bombers, with a near full list the pies will demolish the dons.​
 
I thought we got the rub of the green on the holding the ball decisions but they were bad both ways.

I am perplexed with some of the ruck free kicks payed against Jolly.

Overall I thought that the umpire did a good job and didn't have any real impact on the result.
 
If you think that Heppell was "blatantly pushed in the back" right at the end, you are either one spiteful person or someone who clearly does not know the rules (or both). He rolled him perfectly, if that was in the back there would 100 frees for the game.
 

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Lance Uppercut said:
Jetta staging, gimme a break :rolleyes:

Unreal how you can have a negative thread like this after a win like that. Some people will never be happy about umpiring
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There's no doubt he added a quart of milk to it, but he'd hardly be the first, nor will he be the last.

Was happy to see the ump not get sucked in though.

The 3 worst decisions on the day:

1. Dane Swan 'kicking in danger'

2. Seedsman's holding the ball, when he had barely taken control of it

3. Jobe Watson's kick being called 'advantage' after Ugle had been tackled. Not sure how it could have been advantage when Jobe basically kicked it at the exact same time the whistle was blown. Potentially cost the game.

The 3 worst non-decisions:

1. Fletcher almost taking Dawes' head off with a massive boot swing

2. Heppel being caught red-handed

3. Jolly repeatedly being thrown out of ruck contests

That's how I personally saw it, but aside from that, I thought the umpiring was mostly ok.
 
Watson knew it was an Essendon free kick. It was right in front of him! He could see the tackle laid, he could see the ball spill free, he picked it up and took the advantage. No problems whatsoever.

The Jolly thing pisses me off because he gets slaughetered by the umps every week. Also push in the back is very inconsistent and increasingly frustrating. As I have already said in this thread, the umpires should take the same approach to every game. Why did they let it go more on Wednesday than any other day? Is it written in the rules that Anzac Day must be more lenient? I actually like it when they aren't red-hot, it should be like this every game imo, however the HTB was still too far the other way, i.e. non-decision umpiring.
 
Umpiring standards

I'm just watching Eagles V Tigers and its just gone half-time. The eagles just kicked the ball right as the siren went, it went to the goal square and was punched through by the Tigers defender. I stress again, the siren went as the eagles player was just in the act of kicking and definitely well before the ball reached the square. My understanding of the rules in this situation is that as the siren has already gone, then as soon as the ball is touched by anyone it is dead. The ump however called touch-ball all clear and a point was awarded.
Have the rules changed or is the umpiring standard really that bad?
I thought they only missed things as blatant as that when it hurts us.
Unless I've got the rules wrong (and it could be, I've only been following the game for 45+ years) then this was even more blatant then ANZAC Day when Trav clearly had the ball on the ground on the wrong side of the boundary line.
 
Re: Umpiring standards

No siren went after the ball was kicked, so until the ball is a marked, goes out of play, or completely stops it's considered a live ball.

Same deal of you have a free kick after the siren, even if your not in full range many players still have a go, knowing that unless the ball is stopped it is live balls and the scores will stand.
 
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Thanks dude, I was always of the understanding (and I've seen it applied that way, first hand) that once some-else touches the ball that's the end of the play.
However, I defer to your knowledge.
How do I get this thread ended and removed?
 
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Yeah the siren clearly went at around about the time the a eagles player kicked the ball forward towards goal.

I was very surprised the point counted too.

Perhaps the ump deemed he kicked it right before the siren and maybe the rule is the kick counts IF it was launched before the siren, but like you magpie warrior, I thought it was where the ball was at the moment the siren blew, but it seems not!

I know in the old days it ended when the umpires acknowledged the blowing of the siren rather than when it actually blew ( I'll never forget losing a night GF to NM under that circumstance)
 

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