Up the Arse! Goons Thread

[FAITH]

As a lfc supporter dont mind henry.
Showed some balls in the Suarez saga

 

[glenferry23]

If henry wants to sell his best asset thats up to him.
Id take 55m from any non premier league team

£45-50m would test Liverpool's resolve, but anything above £55m would be an excellent return. Agreed Henry won't sell to another premier league club, that much is evident already.

 

[NTRabbit]

£45-50m would test Liverpool's resolve, but anything above £55m would be an excellent return. Agreed Henry won't sell to another premier league club, that much is evident already.

Perez quietly sells Bale to Man United for 60 mill, uses 50 of it to buy Suarez. Bookmark it!

 

[Juggs Magnetic]

I thought Giroud's game was absolutely immense. His controls the ball so well and so often and is able to set up the midfielders with his little touches. Always seems to get involved in these 1-2s on the edge of the box. Unfortunately his finishing still needs some work.
Can't really see any of our other strikers (walcott, pods and Bendtner) offering the same structure as what he does.
Heard he may have picked something up, so hopefully he's fit for midweek.

 

[Smyth94]

I thought Giroud's game was absolutely immense. His controls the ball so well and so often and is able to set up the midfielders with his little touches. Always seems to get involved in these 1-2s on the edge of the box. Unfortunately his finishing still needs some work.
Can't really see any of our other strikers (walcott, pods and Bendtner) offering the same structure as what he does.
Heard he may have picked something up, so hopefully he's fit for midweek.

Giroud monstered Liverpool's CBs

 

[Smyth94]

Depth is still our weakness as shown in the Careless Cup.

I think everyone acknowledges we'll probably run out of puff by the end of the season if we try and go deep in all the cups.

The "depth" issue is being massively overplayed in the media. We have a pretty horrible injury list at the moment. Walcott, Poldi, Ox, Gnabry, Wilshere all currently injured who are easily first team quality (with perhaps the exception being Gnabry). These guys won't be injured for the whole season.

The issue is that we haven't been able to rotate which is going to cost us at some point. We have done amazingly well to be in this position considering the injuries we've had to our squad. Players like Ozil and Giroud have played 90 mins almost every game. We really need to sign a ST in January.

 

[Shoei]

The "depth" issue is being massively overplayed in the media. We have a pretty horrible injury list at the moment. Walcott, Poldi, Ox, Gnabry, Wilshere all currently injured who are easily first team quality (with perhaps the exception being Gnabry). These guys won't be injured for the whole season.

The issue is that we haven't been able to rotate which is going to cost us at some point. We have done amazingly well to be in this position considering the injuries we've had to our squad. Players like Ozil and Giroud have played 90 mins almost every game. We really need to sign a ST in January.

Ox can't be relied upon, Poldi and Walcott cant play Giroud's role. Bendtner is hit and miss. Ryo needs to be loaned out.

Wilshire has the ability but he runs hot and cold and has been getting injured left, right and centre. We have 5 midfielders with one covering. What happens if Arteta and Flamini both are injured? Ramsey and Wilshire play central then who's on the bench?

Per or Kos get injured that leaves us with Verm and still no other Centreback. Sanga can play there but then we get into musical chairs, jenkinson players RB but what if he continues his average form? Who is going to replace him?


Out of interest, i wonder what it would take to get Lukaku from Chelsea? Would be a more realistic option that Suarez.

We definatly need another Striker, Central Defensive Midfielder and Centreback......the same position we were at the start of the season. It's just been masked over by some exceptional form.

 

[NTRabbit]

We won't be buying another CDM in January unless Flamini or Arteta goes down with a season ender, can guarantee you that - Frimpong is the back up for both.

All we're really short is one striker and one centre half, and I'm reasonably certain that only the striker issue will be addressed in January.

 

[glenferry23]

Yes another striker is essential, and another centre half is also required. Although Sagna is just about our third choice centre half now, which leaves us exposed at RB.

 

[Benno_900]

Ox can't be relied upon, Poldi and Walcott cant play Giroud's role. Bendtner is hit and miss. Ryo needs to be loaned out.

Wilshire has the ability but he runs hot and cold and has been getting injured left, right and centre. We have 5 midfielders with one covering. What happens if Arteta and Flamini both are injured? Ramsey and Wilshire play central then who's on the bench?

Per or Kos get injured that leaves us with Verm and still no other Centreback. Sanga can play there but then we get into musical chairs, jenkinson players RB but what if he continues his average form? Who is going to replace him?

Clubs shouldn't be managed to expect mass injuries. It only happens at Arsenal.

Look at the other clubs around us - Chelsea have been at full strength all season, Tottenham are only missing Danny Rose and Chaldi, Man City only Kompany and Jovetic, Liverpool only Enrique, United only missing Welbeck, Everton only Kone, etc.

It's only at Arsenal that we miss 5-6 players every match. Last season was a dream injury run for us (comparatively) but that's the exception to the norm. This shit needs to be addressed.

 

[ADL9798]

Clubs shouldn't be managed to expect mass injuries. It only happens at Arsenal.

Look at the other clubs around us - Chelsea have been at full strength all season, Tottenham are only missing Danny Rose and Chaldi, Man City only Kompany and Jovetic, Liverpool only Enrique, United only missing Welbeck, Everton only Kone, etc.

It's only at Arsenal that we miss 5-6 players every match. Last season was a dream injury run for us (comparatively) but that's the exception to the norm. This shit needs to be addressed.

If this is a consistent problem then maybe changes need to be made in terms of the players you recruit or to your strength and conditioning programs? Most clubs have 1 or 2 players who you can almost guarantee will miss a month or 2 of every season through injury but it seems like Arsenal have 5 or 6 who spend significant time on the sidelines every single season.

 

[Cruyff14]

Yeah, it's obviously the medical staff at Arsenal.

 

[Crow-eater]

 

[glenferry23]

A mundy like/comment in 3, 2, 1....

 

[RickSanchez]

A mundy like/comment in 3, 2, 1....

I must have sensed a Giroud related post as I just got back on the computer now. I seriously must have him.

 

[glenferry23]

Your sig is disturbingly funny!

 

[Shoei]

Right. Im getting that hair cut!

 

[Smyth94]

Ox can't be relied upon, Poldi and Walcott cant play Giroud's role. Bendtner is hit and miss. Ryo needs to be loaned out.

Wilshire has the ability but he runs hot and cold and has been getting injured left, right and centre. We have 5 midfielders with one covering. What happens if Arteta and Flamini both are injured? Ramsey and Wilshire play central then who's on the bench?

Per or Kos get injured that leaves us with Verm and still no other Centreback. Sanga can play there but then we get into musical chairs, jenkinson players RB but what if he continues his average form? Who is going to replace him?

We're talking about squad depth here and of course Ox can be relied upon as an option to come off the bench to change things up. Who's saying Poldi and Walcott can play Giroud's role? We know they can't. The point is that these guys are the players who would be rotating with our other midfielders so as we don't have to play Ramsey, Oezil et al every game as we are currently doing.

Did you take a look at our bench v Liverpool? There wasn't one player who could have come on and made an impact. That's what injuries are doing to us at the moment.

I'd say we need another RB than CB, Jenkinson isn't currently good enough to play for Arsenal and needs to be loaned out. Sagna is capable of deputising at CB if one of Kos/Mert gets injured and we still
have Verm there - there's a good CB in him somewhere.

Your examples don't wash with me at all - what team in the BPL can adequately cover for the simultaneous loss of two players in the same position? Perhaps only Chelsea or City, depending on the position we're talking about.

For example, Utd are only a Carrick injury away from being in a midfield crisis.

 

[Smyth94]

Anyway - two huge games this week but the one I REALLY WANT is to stuff Man Utd on their own turf. We owe them big time in recent seasons. This is our best chance in years to get the 3 points at Old Toilet.

Hoping for no injuries vs BVB - cautiously optimistic, I would def take a draw.

 

[charcoalchicken]

Anyway - two huge games this week but the one I REALLY WANT is to stuff Man Utd on their own turf. We owe them big time in recent seasons. This is our best chance in years to get the 3 points at Old Toilet.

Hoping for no injuries vs BVB - cautiously optimistic, I would def take a draw.

I agree would be happy with a draw v Dortmund but I would absolutely love to beat Man. Utd. at Old Trafford.

 

[Cruyff14]

Ryo won't make it here.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

Lets make a statement and win both games.... how good would that be...?

Realistically - you would probably take a couple draws.

 

[Zidane98]

Giroud monstered Liverpool's CBs

Really? I thought he had a poor game. Sakho got the better of him IMO. Toure handed him a sitter on a platter which he didn't capitalize on. Sagna, Cazorla and Ramsey had good games but apart from that there wasn't anything special.

 

[glenferry23]

Lets make a statement and win both games.... how good would that be...?

Realistically - you would probably take a couple draws.

Would be brilliant to win both, of course. However I'd definitely take a point at Dortmund and a win vs United would be epic. We've only beaten them like once in the league over the last 5-6 years I believe. It's been men vs boys on countless occasions. It's time.

Really? I thought he had a poor game. Sakho got the better of him IMO. Toure handed him a sitter on a platter which he didn't capitalize on. Sagna, Cazorla and Ramsey had good games but apart from that there wasn't anything special.

I don't believe Giroud had an excellent game, nor did he have a poor one. Thought he played his role well, good physical presence and linked up nicely with our creative trio in midfield. Yes he didn't finish his chances well, however is much improved in that department from last season (with hopefully more improvement to come).

 

[Shoei]

We're talking about squad depth here and of course Ox can be relied upon as an option to come off the bench to change things up. Who's saying Poldi and Walcott can play Giroud's role? We know they can't. The point is that these guys are the players who would be rotating with our other midfielders so as we don't have to play Ramsey, Oezil et al every game as we are currently doing.

Did you take a look at our bench v Liverpool? There wasn't one player who could have come on and made an impact. That's what injuries are doing to us at the moment.

I'd say we need another RB than CB, Jenkinson isn't currently good enough to play for Arsenal and needs to be loaned out. Sagna is capable of deputising at CB if one of Kos/Mert gets injured and we still
have Verm there - there's a good CB in him somewhere.

Your examples don't wash with me at all - what team in the BPL can adequately cover for the simultaneous loss of two players in the same position? Perhaps only Chelsea or City, depending on the position we're talking about.

For example, Utd are only a Carrick injury away from being in a midfield crisis.

We can be in a position to adequatey cover for these losses. Just like Manchester City and Chelsea. Just like Manchester United's past winning teams could do.

I've said we need three players. The same three we needed at the start of the season.

I couldnt care less if it "washes" with you or not.