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You mean his blindness from birth?
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My point is that when people were voting for Fetterman, they were obviously aware he was recovering from a stroke (and to be fair the alternative was Dr Oz....), but the message from the Fetterman camp was that he would be in a better shape by the time he was in congress.

It's over a month into the job, and he's being hospitalised, and cannot have face to face conversations with people without a speech to text device. I just feel at some point they are going to have to acknowledge that he's not able to do the job.
 

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but the message from the Fetterman camp was that he would be in a better shape by the time he was in congress.
I just went and looked. He said "I will not be 100% for some time. It will take time to fully recover."

His doctor said "he should be able to campaign and serve in the senate without a problem".

Where was the promise? I looked it up, can you show me where he guaranteed anything?
 
I just went and looked. He said "I will not be 100% for some time. It will take time to fully recover."

His doctor said "he should be able to campaign and serve in the senate without a problem".

Where was the promise? I looked it up, can you show me where he guaranteed anything?

“All of our doctors believe that we are absolutely ready to be fit to be serving"
"By January I will be much much better but Oz will still be a fraud"

Perhaps its a technicality, but I'd say he's not fit to serve in his current capacity.
 
No matter your political views I think it's not for dispute that if an elected representative cannot actually represent those who elected them then they must be forced to resign. It won't be a huge issue for the Democrats anyway as Fetterman would be replaced with another Democrat.
 
Much to do about nothing methinks. Voting him in or him sitting in the Senate is no different to voting an 80 year (Mitch McConnell) in.

John Fetterman was discharged from George Washington University Hospital on Friday, his staff said, two days after the US senator was admitted to the Washington DC facility because he was feeling light-headed.

Fetterman, 53, suffered a stroke last year. Tests showed he did not suffer a second stroke during the latest incident, the hospital said.

“In addition to the CT, CTA, and MRI tests ruling out a stroke, his EEG test results came back normal, with no evidence of seizures,” the senator’s office said in a written statement. “John is looking forward to spending some time with his family and returning to the Senate on Monday.”
 
This guy could be the next US President...





How does he command such a majority in Florida. Like if I lived in Florida I'd be kinda more interested in the risk of the state being underwater in the next 50 years and getting a job.
 
This guy could be the next US President...





How does he command such a majority in Florida. Like if I lived in Florida I'd be kinda more interested in the risk of the state being underwater in the next 50 years and getting a job.
Playing to his audience. Florida is traditionally known as the retirement state.

Plenty of people over 60 who want things to stay the same
 
This guy could be the next US President...

How does he command such a majority in Florida. Like if I lived in Florida I'd be kinda more interested in the risk of the state being underwater in the next 50 years and getting a job.
Most are of the demographic that would find what happens in 50 years time and getting a job irrelevant to them.
 

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just a little picture on Florida, USA...
I saw a news report that mentioned a FL county has banned a bunch of books about black or latino ball players. They included Jackie Robinson and Roberto Clemente. It got my attention because I recognized the Clemente one. It's in the Common Core Reading textbook for 3rd grade. I think these are the passages that someone is worried will give some little white child a guilt complex or whatever.

But there was something that would have made Roberto’s joy a little sweeter. As much as fans loved him, the newspaper writers did not. When Roberto was in such pain he couldn’t play, they called him “lazy.” They mocked his Spanish accent, and when Roberto got angry, the mainly white newsmen called him a Latino “hothead.”
And he still did not get the credit he deserved for being so great. “It’s because I’m black, isn’t it?” he asked the sneering reporters. “It’s because I am Puerto Rican. It’s because I am proud.”
The story is basically how Roberto fought so much adversity to realize his dream. But apparently racism is not considered adversity.
 
DeSantis will be worse than Trump if he becomes President, mark it. He is fast moving towards the top of my list as the biggest POS in America. The American culture in general is already gutter level. Has to be the most selfish, individual, easily manipulated and politicized population world wide. So it is pretty easy for people who would not be fit to stand in office in most normal forward thinking countries, to feed off the population and pass off whatever they want and hold onto power.

It is amazing how the right can make up buzz words, and turn a nothing issue into something "big and scary". Like CRT, WOKE, GAY AGENDA, SOCIALISM. Then again, most of them are boomers who lived most of their lives during the red scare and "commie" years, and need new things to be angry about.

The book banning one is the funniest. Because when those who are enforcing it are challenged, just about all of them have admitted they have not read that said book. They are just running off what they THINK it contains. Apparently any thing that addresses racism, gays, and inequality is banned. Many of those books have been studied in schools world wide for decades and are considered literacy classics. Where were those so called issues that the right think would arise from reading them, all those years? Are they forgetting about the bible which encourages rape, murder, abortion, pedophilia?

The scariest and unsettling thing I have read about DeSantis recently. Is there is apparently a school in Florida that has been voted one of the most inclusive and safest schools or something. Or maybe it was education? I cannot remember which it was exactly. Anyway, the school is very popular with gay and transgender students, that many enroll there. As they feel safe, and can associate with people like themselves. Despite the school being top rated and not needing attention like poor run down, or poorly ran schools. DeSantis has taken upon it himself, to remove the entire school board and I think principal. And replace those people with hard line Christians, some with a controversial past. He once said that he believes all schools should be subject to those old fashioned christian values. Those kids will no longer feel safe, will be subject to discriminate and brainwashed based rules enforced by these dinosaurs. And driven to suicide, bullying etc.

For a group who often scream out about the imaginary idea that lefties, gays or blacks are brainwashing kids. You have religious groups who are a minority, actively forcing their values on to other people through politics and trying to brain wash our kids into believing in a made up deity. Religious people are the most judgemental, violent, nasty based people in the world. I know if I had kids, I would rather place them in a school that teaches about gay and black people, human rights, issues that are real. Than a religious one, where they turn your kid into another piece of s**t based on a made up set of rules cherry picked from the bible.

Also DeSantis wants to know about womens periods, and female athletes have to report their periods should they wish to compete. Pervert
 
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DeSantis will be worse than Trump if he becomes President, mark it. He is fast moving towards the top of my list as the biggest POS in America. The American culture in general is already gutter level. Has to be the most selfish, individual, easily manipulated and politicized population world wide. So it is pretty easy for people who would not be fit to stand in office in most normal forward thinking countries, to feed off the population and pass off whatever they want and hold onto power.

It is amazing how the right can make up buzz words, and turn a nothing issue into something "big and scary". Like CRT, WOKE, GAY AGENDA, SOCIALISM. Then again, most of them are boomers who lived most of their lives during the red scare and "commie" years, and need new things to be angry about.

The book banning one is the funniest. Because when those who are enforcing it are challenged, just about all have admitted they have not read that said book. Many of those books have been studied in schools world wide for decades and are considered literacy classics. Where were those so called issues that the right think would arise from reading them, all those years? are they forgetting about the bible which encourages rape, murder, abortion, pedophilia?

The scariest and unsettling thing I have read about DeSantis recently. Is there is apparently a school in Florida that has been voted one of the most inclusive and safest schools or something. Or maybe it was education? I cannot remember which it was exactly. Anyway, the school is very popular with gay and transgender students, that many enroll there. As they feel safe, and can associate with people like themselves. Despite the school being top rated and not needing attention like poor run down, or poorly ran schools. DeSantis has taken upon it himself, to remove the entire school board and I think principal. And replace those people with hard line Christians, some with a controversial past. He once said that he believes all schools should be subject to those old fashioned christian values. Those kids will no longer feel safe, will be subject to discriminate and brainwashed based rules enforced by these dinosaurs. And driven to suicide, bullying etc.

For a group who often scream out about the imaginary idea that lefties, gays or blacks are brainwashing kids. You have religious groups who are a minority, actively forcing their values on to other people through politics and trying to brain wash our kids into believing in a made up deity. Religious people are the most judgemental, violent, nasty based people in the world. I know if I had kids, I would rather place them in a school that teaches about gay and black people, human rights, issues that are real. Than a religious one, where they turn your kid into another piece of s**t based on a made up set of rules cherry picked from the bible.

Also DeSantis wants to know about womens periods, and female athletes have to report their periods should they wish to compete. Pervert
Few red flags there.
 
One has to remember that there has been a minority, puritan ethic ruling the States since its inception. No nipples or buttocks on TV until cable, no swearing, but lots of bloody violence are examples. A mother breast-feeding is considered pr0n. I think that has *ed American consciousness, in general, for a long time. Compared to say truly modern, progressive countries like Norway, the population of US are infants. Forward looking education to go with policies has brought those countries into a more mature consciousness, in gross general terms.

And I've said before the advent of media like an overtly political Fox, first on cable and then on the net, virtually brainwashes people. Couch zombies have been ridiculed for a decades for watching too much TV. Fox has too many rusted on viewers, and then became netizens of the related online bubbles. Progressive thinking is an alien punching bag to people who stay inside. Before Fox, I can't think of any politically slanted TV stations, that was the print media only. Sinclair media are unabashedly conservative, they control huge swathes of local news. Some people will always have a conservative outlook on life, but modern mass-media has made pushing anti-progressive thinking profitable. They are like doomsday cults preying on fear and outrage.

There are some strong forces keeping America back.
 
One has to remember that there has been a minority, puritan ethic ruling the States since its inception. No nipples or buttocks on TV until cable, no swearing, but lots of bloody violence are examples. A mother breast-feeding is considered pr0n. I think that has ******ed American consciousness, in general, for a long time. Compared to say truly modern, progressive countries like Norway, the population of US are infants. Forward looking education to go with policies has brought those countries into a more mature consciousness, in gross general terms.

And I've said before the advent of media like an overtly political Fox, first on cable and then on the net, virtually brainwashes people. Couch zombies have been ridiculed for a decades for watching too much TV. Fox has too many rusted on viewers, and then became netizens of the related online bubbles. Progressive thinking is an alien punching bag to people who stay inside. Before Fox, I can't think of any politically slanted TV stations, that was the print media only. Sinclair media are unabashedly conservative, they control huge swathes of local news. Some people will always have a conservative outlook on life, but modern mass-media has made pushing anti-progressive thinking profitable. They are like doomsday cults preying on fear and outrage.

There are some strong forces keeping America back.
I was in South Africa when they published the first legal full frontal female nudity in a girly mag and just in case it you'd bought it by accident and didn't want to be offended they put the same stuff over the lady bits as they put on scratchies and you had to take to it with the side of a coin for the big reveal.
 
I was in South Africa when they published the first legal full frontal female nudity in a girly mag and just in case it you'd bought it by accident and didn't want to be offended they put the same stuff over the lady bits as they put on scratchies and you had to take to it with the side of a coin for the big reveal.
was it also scratch and sniff? :oops:

the lengths they go to to 'protect' the public....girlie mags behind the counters, but National Enquirer and the like right there in checkout line. :confusedv1:
 
was it also scratch and sniff? :oops:

the lengths they go to to 'protect' the public....girlie mags behind the counters, but National Enquirer and the like right there in checkout line. :confusedv1:
A country founded by people who didn't find the sixteenth century C of E austere or moral enough to their taste was always going to have some interesting results down the track.
 
DeSantis will be worse than Trump if he becomes President, mark it. He is fast moving towards the top of my list as the biggest POS in America. The American culture in general is already gutter level. Has to be the most selfish, individual, easily manipulated and politicized population world wide. So it is pretty easy for people who would not be fit to stand in office in most normal forward thinking countries, to feed off the population and pass off whatever they want and hold onto power.

It is amazing how the right can make up buzz words, and turn a nothing issue into something "big and scary". Like CRT, WOKE, GAY AGENDA, SOCIALISM. Then again, most of them are boomers who lived most of their lives during the red scare and "commie" years, and need new things to be angry about.

The book banning one is the funniest. Because when those who are enforcing it are challenged, just about all of them have admitted they have not read that said book. They are just running off what they THINK it contains. Apparently any thing that addresses racism, gays, and inequality is banned. Many of those books have been studied in schools world wide for decades and are considered literacy classics. Where were those so called issues that the right think would arise from reading them, all those years? Are they forgetting about the bible which encourages rape, murder, abortion, pedophilia?

The scariest and unsettling thing I have read about DeSantis recently. Is there is apparently a school in Florida that has been voted one of the most inclusive and safest schools or something. Or maybe it was education? I cannot remember which it was exactly. Anyway, the school is very popular with gay and transgender students, that many enroll there. As they feel safe, and can associate with people like themselves. Despite the school being top rated and not needing attention like poor run down, or poorly ran schools. DeSantis has taken upon it himself, to remove the entire school board and I think principal. And replace those people with hard line Christians, some with a controversial past. He once said that he believes all schools should be subject to those old fashioned christian values. Those kids will no longer feel safe, will be subject to discriminate and brainwashed based rules enforced by these dinosaurs. And driven to suicide, bullying etc.

For a group who often scream out about the imaginary idea that lefties, gays or blacks are brainwashing kids. You have religious groups who are a minority, actively forcing their values on to other people through politics and trying to brain wash our kids into believing in a made up deity. Religious people are the most judgemental, violent, nasty based people in the world. I know if I had kids, I would rather place them in a school that teaches about gay and black people, human rights, issues that are real. Than a religious one, where they turn your kid into another piece of s**t based on a made up set of rules cherry picked from the bible.

Also DeSantis wants to know about womens periods, and female athletes have to report their periods should they wish to compete. Pervert

Yep there is pretty much no doubt that DeSantis is a monster. Trump may be the biggest dickhead to have ever existed, but he isn’t half as evil as this guy.
 
Yep there is pretty much no doubt that DeSantis is a monster. Trump may be the biggest dickhead to have ever existed, but he isn’t half as evil as this guy.

It would make an interesting philosophical debate.
Trump is essentially amoral. The only thing he cares about is trying to satisfy the demands of a diseased ego no matter the consequences. I think he would do or say or allow anything to happen to anyone to have the big chair back & everyone kissing his ass. I think he would make himself President for life & destroy America as we know it if he could.

But there isn’t any moral basis to it & once he was President for life I don’t think he would care about doing anything. I think he’d just as happily make hookers & blow free for everyone or hold public executions if it meant keeping the job. He doesn’t actually believe in anything.

It remains to be seen if RDS is actually a true believer who wants to turn the US into Gilead or he’s just doing anti woke performance art because he wants power.

If he’s a true believer then is that more dangerous than someone who believes in nothing but would do anything in service of his ego?
 
DeSantis, in a way, seems like Boss Hogg doing his thing in the time of culture war and mass media. Being a local tyrant, while being sure to not to fluster the middle class and up white population and retirees.

If that s**t plays on the national stage remains to be seen.
 
DeSantis, in a way, seems like Boss Hogg doing his thing in the time of culture war and mass media. Being a local tyrant, while being sure to not to fluster the middle class and up white population and retirees.

If that s**t plays on the national stage remains to be seen.

Surely the mid term results show it does not. Biden’s an unpopular President with no sign he can address stagflation adequately and the Republicans woefully underperformed because their focus was on this crap.
 

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