A Section VAFA Premier 2018

[Jimmyjack]

So Hunt off to Wesley

Refer to earlier post on previous page. Was announced here on Monday so it seems the VAFA a bit late with the news ! George Burbury also.

 

[flat footy]

So Hunt off to Wesley

Correct.............

 

[Captain chaos]

1. So you must have skipped over the comment "SKOBS have some seriously talented 1 pointers”

2. Gysberts is a SKOB premiership player. Show some respect.

3. The 2nd Strauss is the evil twin who committed to play at Scotch (and other clubs) before the 2016 season.

4. You need to lighten up a bit. You take the bait far too easily.

Re reference to Ayce Cordy above – Blues are casting the net far and wide. Anyone with a pulse is on their radar this year I hear. If you cant beat em join em!

Sorry when you said one pointers I didn’t know you were referring to only their home grown players .. how remiss of me when you didn’t clarify that.

I thought you may have been talking about s salopek , Gilham and Strauss .. all one pointers.

As for Strauss evil twin.. he may be a two pointer.

 

[Jimmyjack]

Sorry when you said one pointers I didn’t know you were referring to only their home grown players .. how remiss of me when you didn’t clarify that.

I thought you may have been talking about s salopek , Gilham and Strauss .. all one pointers.

As for Strauss evil twin.. he may be a two pointer.

So there must be a third Strauss as the one that played in the GF is worth 4 points not 1. And while it matters little Gilham is still a 2 pointer.

Not much good at this are you? Maybe give this Big Footy thing away or start doing some research. To save embarrassing yourself further I can post some instructions on how to find player points allocations if you like?

 

[Captain chaos]

So there must be a third Strauss as the one that played in the GF is worth 4 points not 1. And while it matters little Gilham is still a 2 pointer.

Not much good at this are you? Maybe give this Big Footy thing away or start doing some research. To save embarrassing yourself further I can post some instructions on how to find player points allocations if you like?

Is there a reason you didn’t highlight s salopek ? Were you wrong about him or is is in your list of handy one pointers Kevin’s boys ?

How’s your research on that one ? You said the one pointer comment in relation to “ home grown talent “.. go back and read it . So you were wrong about s salopek, whom you didn’t highlight .
Lol

 

[Jimmyjack]

Is there a reason you didn’t highlight s salopek ? Were you wrong about him or is is in your list of handy one pointers Kevin’s boys ?

How’s your research on that one ? You said the one pointer comment in relation to “ home grown talent “.. go back and read it . So you were wrong about s salopek, whom you didn’t highlight .
Lol

You are an embarrassment to yourself and your club (both of them). Neither amusing nor clever, your posts highlight your ignorance and your pathetic come backs only make you look more foolish.

The single worst poster on Big Footy.

No coincidence that since your arrival most of the better and more informed posters have departed. There will be no one left by the start of 2018 at this rate.

 

[Captain chaos]

You are an embarrassment to yourself and your club (both of them). Neither amusing nor clever, your posts highlight your ignorance and your pathetic come backs only make you look more foolish.

The single worst poster on Big Footy.

No coincidence that since your arrival most of the better and more informed posters have departed. There will be no one left by the start of 2018 at this rate.

As I thought, you couldn’t answer my question and resort to personal abuse. Hopefully the mod catches up with you .

It’s simple. You have the points system wrong .
If you are right, how is S salopek a one? He hasn’t been there 6 years .
Similiarky, Gilham ( as I said) will be a one next year .

Can u explain that? They don’t lose one per year over 6 years like other leagues as they are not paid .

Please try and not play the man

 

[Jimmyjack]

As I thought, you couldn’t answer my question and resort to personal abuse. Hopefully the mod catches up with you .

It’s simple. You have the points system wrong .
If you are right, how is S salopek a one? He hasn’t been there 6 years .
Similiarky, Gilham ( as I said) will be a one next year .

Can u explain that? They don’t lose one per year over 6 years like other leagues as they are not paid .

Please try and not play the man

They actually do. The VAFA is an affiliate of AFL Vic so they are governed by exactly the same policy as all other competitions under the AFL Vic umbrella.

First year straight out of the AFL they are worth 6 unless returning to their home club – e.g Mitchell Brown, Jay Schulz, Jason Tutt etc. "A reduction of one point will apply for each 'Season of Service' to their Community Club" - clause 7.1

Salopek (who went to St Francis Xavier) last played AFL in 2011 or thereabouts. So counting backwards by 2017 he is worth 1 point. You are incorrectly suggesting he came directly to SKOBs from the AFL. He did not so was not a 6 pointer when he arrived. Gilham (who went to Whitefrairs) played 1 senior game AFL game in 2014. So according to the current points rule he should have been a 4 in 2017. (In fact his PPA has me stumped so you will need someone from SKOBs to explain that one. He was a 4 in 2016 and now a 2 in 2017?). Understand he has anyway retired so unlikely to ever be a 1 pointer.

As points are manually entered by clubs there will be human error but unless it gets really tight, which is extremely unlikely in VAFA Premier, it really matters little.

Here is the link to the policy. There is nothing in here that distinguishes the VAFA from any other competition and the rules apply equally. Have a read and get yourself acquainted with the rules.

http://www.aflvic.com.au/wp-content...er-Points-System-Policy-2017-season-Final.pdf

To view player points on TG Sports follow these directions.

1. From VAFA website go to ‘Results’ and select your game

2. Go to ‘Match Centre’

3. Select the ‘Player Points’ tab under the scores.

4. PPA value is recorded next to the player

My explanation of the points is as per the policy and I can't account for human error. Hope this helps. As you now have the various definitions and know where the find the PPA on the results page it should clear up any further antagonism between us, at least on the issue of player points. It is here in black and white so think we are done on this topic.

Your welcome.

 

[Over The Post]

Thank you for the details JimmyJack. Keep it polite please, both of you.

 

[Captain chaos]

They actually do. The VAFA is an affiliate of AFL Vic so they are governed by exactly the same policy as all other competitions under the AFL Vic umbrella.

First year straight out of the AFL they are worth 6 unless returning to their home club – e.g Mitchell Brown, Jay Schulz, Jason Tutt etc. "A reduction of one point will apply for each 'Season of Service' to their Community Club" - clause 7.1

Salopek (who went to St Francis Xavier) last played AFL in 2011 or thereabouts. So counting backwards by 2017 he is worth 1 point. You are incorrectly suggesting he came directly to SKOBs from the AFL. He did not so was not a 6 pointer when he arrived. Gilham (who went to Whitefrairs) played 1 senior game AFL game in 2014. So according to the current points rule he should have been a 4 in 2017. (In fact his PPA has me stumped so you will need someone from SKOBs to explain that one. He was a 4 in 2016 and now a 2 in 2017?). Understand he has anyway retired so unlikely to ever be a 1 pointer.

As points are manually entered by clubs there will be human error but unless it gets really tight, which is extremely unlikely in VAFA Premier, it really matters little.

Here is the link to the policy. There is nothing in here that distinguishes the VAFA from any other competition and the rules apply equally. Have a read and get yourself acquainted with the rules.

http://www.aflvic.com.au/wp-content...er-Points-System-Policy-2017-season-Final.pdf

To view player points on TG Sports follow these directions.

1. From VAFA website go to ‘Results’ and select your game

2. Go to ‘Match Centre’

3. Select the ‘Player Points’ tab under the scores.

4. PPA value is recorded next to the player

My explanation of the points is as per the policy and I can't account for human error. Hope this helps. As you now have the various definitions and know where the find the PPA on the results page it should clear up any further antagonism between us, at least on the issue of player points. It is here in black and white so think we are done on this topic.

Your welcome.

So let me get this straight , you quote me policy chapter and verse , direct me to the points allocation on the website ( durr), suggest on several occasions that I don’t know what I am talking about , yet you admit you can’t explain Gilham points?

So you don’t understand it by your own admission ? Can you confirm I read your post correctly ?

Salopek’s starting point is not what I assumed . You need to check what it says about guys who have played one afl game and better understand how he and Gilham have been discounted . You said Salopek was not a 6 pointer when he arrived? Really? The policy you are so familiar with, says if you have played one AFL game in 3 years, you are a six pointer. Please let us know what he was when he started and how he went around as a one this year, despite the policy you are quoting saying something different.


Also the vafa do have a Different discount rate ( ie you don’t have to play the 6 years to get to one point as you are suggesting)as the only Comp that doesn’t pay.. Ring Brian Goodman and ask him then came back on here and tell us what he said .

 

[The_Conspirator]

So let me get this straight , you quote me policy chapter and verse , direct me to the points allocation on the website ( durr), suggest on several occasions that I don’t know what I am talking about , yet you admit you can’t explain Gilham points?

So you don’t understand it by your own admission ? Can you confirm I read your post correctly ?

Salopek’s starting point is not what I assumed . You need to check what it says about guys who have played one afl game and better understand how he and Gilham have been discounted . Retired has he? Mmmm,

Also the bags do have a Different discount rate ( ie you don’t have to play the 6 years to get to zero as you are suggesting)as the only Comp that doesn’t pay.. Ring Brian Goodman and ask him then came back on here and tell us what he said .

Don't quote me but I believe the VAFA gave a once off 1 point discount to existing players on lists who were worth more than 1 point when the points system came into effect. This might explain the 2 players in question points value.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Liam Sumner is set to join st Bedes mentone.

 

[Jimmyjack]

Liam Sumner is set to join st Bedes mentone.

Already has

AFL St Bedes / Mentone Tigers AFC Sumner, Liam Pending 2017-11-21

Although I suspect he may be playing VFL and has SBMT as his home club.

 

[Captain chaos]

Already has

AFL St Bedes / Mentone Tigers AFC Sumner, Liam Pending 2017-11-21

Although I suspect he may be playing VFL and has SBMT as his home club.

Oh jimmy is still alive ? I am still waiting for the explanation of how the skevs guys points fit the policy you have been repeatedly quoting . Or are you conceding

 

[bedford]

Oh jimmy is still alive ? I am still waiting for the explanation of how the skevs guys points fit the policy you have been repeatedly quoting . Or are you conceding

No one cares

 

[flat footy]

No one cares

Ditto : No one cares....swap mob no's and work it out...............

 

[combaning]

Ditto : No one cares....swap mob no's and work it out...............

Hear hear. Who needs a hyper-sensitive Brian when Chaos steps up to the plate.

 

[Jimmyjack]

Oh jimmy is still alive ? I am still waiting for the explanation of how the skevs guys points fit the policy you have been repeatedly quoting . Or are you conceding

Rather than respond I decided to enact that rule about arguing with morons. You know the one that says they bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience so it is better to simply avoid it altogether.

Your posts are littered with untruths and inaccuracies and as others have said that no one cares. So this is my very last comment on the matter.

The PPA is national equalisation program and the VAFA is governed by the same rules as every other competition. Payment or non-payment to players is completely irrelevant to the policy and there is no special dispensation afforded the VAFA on the basis that it is an amateur competition. If you believe otherwise you are delusional, but if that fanciful notion gives you comfort then good for you. Just don’t bother engaging with me any further on the matter as I am now applying the rule referred to in the first paragraph.

 

[Captain chaos]

Rather than respond I decided to enact that rule about arguing with morons. You know the one that says they bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience so it is better to simply avoid it altogether.

Your posts are littered with untruths and inaccuracies and as others have said that no one cares. So this is my very last comment on the matter.

The PPA is national equalisation program and the VAFA is governed by the same rules as every other competition. Payment or non-payment to players is completely irrelevant to the policy and there is no special dispensation afforded the VAFA on the basis that it is an amateur competition. If you believe otherwise you are delusional, but if that fanciful notion gives you comfort then good for you. Just don’t bother engaging with me any further on the matter as I am now applying the rule referred to in the first paragraph.

Nothing inaccuarate at all
you still can’t explain Gilhams points or salopeks.

Why is that if you are so right?

Please explain those two... the defence rests .

 

[Penski]

Nothing inaccuarate at all
you still can’t explain Gilhams points or salopeks.

Why is that if you are so right?

Please explain those two... the defence rests .

Jimmy's right in that the points system is exactly the same as every other league (although total points per team can vary comp to comp). Even though we don't pay players, we have players moving in and out of our league so there needs to be consistency so no one can rort the system and take advantage.

The players you are talking about have obviously been cleared to play at the points level they're at so they must comply, but unless skobs or the vafa tell us won't know for sure how the calculation came about.

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[Captain chaos]

Jimmy's right in that the points system is exactly the same as every other league (although total points per team can vary comp to comp). Even though we don't pay players, we have players moving in and out of our league so there needs to be consistency so no one can rort the system and take advantage.

The players you are talking about have obviously been cleared to play at the points level they're at so they must comply, but unless skobs or the vafa tell us won't know for sure how the calculation came about.

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Well sorry jimmy isn’t right as he ( and the policy he quoted) said they lose one point per year and they both should have started on 6.

 

[bedford]

Well sorry jimmy isn’t right as he ( and the policy he quoted) said they lose one point per year and they both should have started on 6.

Who cares

 

[Over The Post]

Nobody except Chaos, it appears. Be nice to keep it that way.

How is everyone's preseason going?

 

[Penski]

Fixture just released for 2018. Round 1 has the Prem B rematch first up: -

Round 1
Coll Vs DLS (Harry Trott)
OB Vs OS (Brighton Beach Oval)
UB Vs STK (TH King)
OX Vs OT (Toorak Park)
SBMT Vs OM (Brindisi)

GF rematch between Coll and STK not until Round 8.

 

[Penski]

Brett Eddy back in Vic, but off to Vermont. That's a shame as he would have been a big boost for the comp lining up at full forward at Dairy Bell.