Victorians have a whinge

[RoccaRoo]

We won flags in the same competition. Port won them in a lesser competition.

Well and Simply said Jarryd, but I don't think the Port Supporters understand Logic and I don't think they can comprehend that the AFL is the Former VFL league and that the VFL/AFL always has been the premier comp and that the SANFL has been and always will be the 2nd Grade Comp.

 

[Captain Wacky]

You idiot. Talk about Backfire. You are a true Port Adelaide supporter in every sense. Please check your Spell Checker or Dictionary and then argue the correct way to spell "FERAL".

Okey dokey.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=feral

 

[Ragnarok14]

 

[Art Corvelay]

I don't fathom how ex vfl supporters think they have every right to carry over their flags from a different competion into a rehashed and national comp, yet people from Port are not allowed.

I am happy for Sydney to have just won 1 flag and let go of the ones they won last century playing a melbourne based comp.

FWIW if ex vfl clubs are allowed to carry over flags into the national comp, then the same applies to Port thus making them the most succesfull club in the AFL. I guess this fact irks the collingwoods, the carltons and the essendons.

You guys joined our competition, we just expanded. Of course all of the history from the VFL is still applicable, it's the same league, under a new name. If a company changes it's name, does this mean it loses it's history?

 

[RoccaRoo]

Okey dokey.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=feral

Exactly how it is spelt in my original post you idiot!
You are just making yourself look dumb.
Give up now.

 

[rodent killer]

Its already started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20426804-2,00.html

If you lot spent half the time correcting the problems rather then whinging about them youd be in the Grand Final by now. Money isnt the problem. Drafting is. Try and draft players outside of your own state and see what happens.

well big coxhead, the reason is this,your mob hide players ,its a well known fact promising kids are hidden in private schools in the barren state of WA. It wouldn't be hard to hide anyone over there because no-one will go there unless its totally necessary. In 2002 freo won 2 games, the AFL went over there and they were given free rein to go out and get players back to WA, they got Farmer,Headj.land.McPharlin,Carr and Bell. They had to pay them and Pavlich,Longmuir,Haselby etc etc well so the AFL have turned a blind eye to there salary cap cheating. Because how could about a dozen players be getting pain at least 4.5mil between them? The other blokes would have to on $474 a week after tax

 

[GoldenSky]

I am so tired of these Port supporters constantly complaining about how they can not include their SANFL cups in their flag totals.

To Port fans:

Before 1997, Port Adelaide played in a different competition. Different competition.

Oh, and if all you Pricktorian clubs want to include your VFL premierships in the list of your AFL premierships, then clubs like Port Adelaide can include their SANFL premierships in the list of their AFL premierships.

Fairs fair. And don't give me the 'The AFL is the VFL' bullcrap, because it's not.

Yes it is the same. The AFL simply renamed the competition to reflect that teams from other parts of Australia were now participating.

Thats all it was. A team from Perth and Brisbane joining. It doesnt mean it was a new competition.

When Kangaroos and Hawthorn joined the VFL in 1925, was the competition a different one from the previous year? Or do we all still regard it as the VFL with extra teams participating?

What about when Darwin and Tasmania join as teams in 2012?? Are we going to reset the competition AGAIN simply because more clubs are competing? Would it be fair to scrap Ports 2004 and Sydneys 2005 flag and say they were played in a different competition?

One of the great things about Aussie Rules Football is the long history surrounding it. You have teams playing today that were playing nearly 110 years ago. Why scrap this history just so we can count Ports 34? flags that were won in a different league?

I don't fathom how ex vfl supporters think they have every right to carry over their flags from a different competion into a rehashed and national comp, yet people from Port are not allowed.

I am happy for Sydney to have just won 1 flag and let go of the ones they won last century playing a melbourne based comp.

FWIW if ex vfl clubs are allowed to carry over flags into the national comp, then the same applies to Port thus making them the most succesfull club in the AFL. I guess this fact irks the collingwoods, the carltons and the essendons.

Oh i didnt know freo played in 1975 comp? I guess West Coast had an unlucky season in 1977. How about that game at Victoria Park way back in 1973 when Adelaide Crows where up by 10 goals and the pies came back and finished any hope the crows had of playing in the finals.

Yeah they added extra teams. WCE joined in 87.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Oh i didnt know freo played in 1975 comp? I guess West Coast had an unlucky season in 1977. How about that game at Victoria Park way back in 1973 when Adelaide Crows where up by 10 goals and the pies came back and finished any hope the crows had of playing in the finals.

If there's a guy who's 24 called John, and he changes his name to Mark, on his next birthday does he turn 25 or 1?

 

[Art Corvelay]

Oh yeah, I don't really care if it's all Interstate teams now in the Finals. It's not Collingwood, so my interest drops substantially.

 

[sharpie]

tell you what the Vics do a sight less complaining than you guys do gloating at Vic failures. the game was created in Vic and the league is an expanded VFL. get over it and enjoy your success as we will when it comes as of course it will. it's not exactly a million years since we had GF teams in melbourne and we will again.

Swings and roundabouts.

amen to that

that is exactly what it is - in 5 years time I'm sure there will be a call to discuss why the non-vic sides can't make the finals

for what it is worth - if WC don't win it - i want the demons or the tigers to win it

the whole state line thing doesn't really hold water for me anymore - look at some of our best players (judd, braun, wirrpanda, butler, waters, hansen) a lot from outside WA.

assume Sydney V West Coast in a GF and Goodes and Judd line up no each other - how is that not a celebration of Victorian football?

 

[Gilbert_Hodge]

Inter-state clubs have 11 games at their home ground. That's pretty much 11 wins (Except Brisbane and Port this year because they were pretty bad). And WA and SA teams also have 2 derby's.

Perhaps this is why the inter-state teams are so dominate?

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Its already started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20426804-2,00.html

If you lot spent half the time correcting the problems rather then whinging about them youd be in the Grand Final by now. Money isnt the problem. Drafting is. Try and draft players outside of your own state and see what happens.

lmao some dumb victorians are suggesting to have a game at the mcg every week of the finals even if its all out interstate. get a grip idiots. the league is the AUSTRALIAN not the VICTORIAN football league. The interstate dominance has been achieved by hard work and due to the fact they barely have any competition. 2 clubs in perth compared to 10 in Melbourne/Geelong. more money has to be divided with 10 clubs leaving clubs with barely any cash. i recommend smaller clubs should look at the example of west coast or adelaide and see how much money they invest in shares, housing, etc. wce doesnt rely on the funds of success they have other avenues of wealth and again showing professionalism.

 

[sharpie]

Inter-state clubs have 11 games at their home ground. That's pretty much 11 wins (Except Brisbane and Port this year because they were pretty bad). And WA and SA teams also have 2 derby's.

Perhaps this is why the inter-state teams are so dominate?

or perhaps that fact that none of our players can play past age 31 because the travel has rooted their bodies - maybe that explains why we fall away quicker

you conveniently leave out that vic sides play a lot of "away" games at home as well.

swings and roundabouts

 

[Hotdog Man]

Inter-state clubs have 11 games at their home ground. That's pretty much 11 wins (Except Brisbane and Port this year because they were pretty bad). And WA and SA teams also have 2 derby's.

Perhaps this is why the inter-state teams are so dominate?

The bar has been lifted.

Get on your tippy toes and give it a bash.

 

[Ragnarok14]

Inter-state clubs have 11 games at their home ground. That's pretty much 11 wins (Except Brisbane and Port this year because they were pretty bad). And WA and SA teams also have 2 derby's.

Perhaps this is why the inter-state teams are so dominate?

How many games do victorian clubs play in victoria? And by your reasoning if 11 home games are locks then the 11 away games should be next to impossible to win?

How about the victorian clubs quit the infighting, mis-management and clinging to out dated traditions and they mioght see an improvement. How about actually getting in people with good business experience in sports management rather than letting old players dictate the clubs decisions?

 

[earthquake]

Toooooooooooo many teams in Victoria ,merge 4 teams so we have a 12 team comp,scrap the pre season comp and have a 24 game comp ,where we get to play each other on our respective home grounds.

ITS an AFL Competition now not a Victorian owned comp.
Barassi and Davis have to move on and get with the times and anyone else that is all flustered etc on why NO VICTORIA teams are in the Grand Final .

 

[Gilbert_Hodge]

How many games do victorian clubs play in victoria? And by your reasoning if 11 home games are locks then the 11 away games should be next to impoosible to win?

How about the victorian clubs quit the infighting, mis-management and clinging to out dated traditions and they mioght see an improvement. How about actually getting in people with good business experience in sports management rather than letting old players dictate the clubs decisions?

Yes, Victorian teams do play a number of away games in Melbourne. But we do not get a home ground advantage as inter-state teams do.

 

[Traffic Light]

Then maybe the rest of the aussie rule states should start their own true afl then will see how long half the teams in vic will survive without revenue from interstate clubs keeping them alive

Good'o, go on then.

It won't happen, we're just going to keep taking your money

 

[Hotdog Man]

Yes, Victorian teams do play a number of away games in Melbourne. But we do not get a home ground advantage as inter-state teams do.

Excuse me, I think you've dropped your boarding pass.

 

[Ragnarok14]

Yes, Victorian teams do play a number of away games in Melbourne. But we do not get a home ground advantage as inter-state teams do.

So your telling me clubs would rather have a crowd with 3/4 of their supporters for less games and travel 4-5 times more a year? Rather than having a 50-50 crowd and not having to travel much? Home ground isn't exactly huge apart from the crowd as most umpires come from victoria anyway as well. Of course the home ground problem for vic teams in vic could be solved by the AFL simply through an adjustment to the ticket issuing.

 

[Gilbert_Hodge]

So your telling me clubs would rather have a crowd with 3/4 of their supporters for less games and travel 4-5 times more a year? Rather than having a 50-50 crowd and not having to travel much? Home ground isn't exactly huge apart from the crowd as most umpires come from victoria anyway as well. Of course the home ground problem for vic teams in vic could be solved by the AFL simply through an adjustment to the ticket issuing.

I didn't say clubs would rather that. And the situation could be fixed easy by dumping the pre season comp and extending the season so all teams play each other at their respective home grounds. Except that won't happen because the players bodies probably wouldn't be able to hold for so long.

 

[Ragnarok14]

I didn't say clubs would rather that. And the situation could be fixed easy by dumping the pre season comp and extending the season so all teams play each other at their respective home grounds. Except that won't happen because the players bodies probably wouldn't be able to hold for so long.

No you didn't say that, but you implied that the home advantage of interstate teams meant they had an edge over victorian clubs due to the travelling involved for other teams, even though victorians do less travelling.

Maybe if the Vic teams travelled more they wouldn't find it so hard and it wouldn't be such a disadvantage now that they dont play every single finals match in melbourne?

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Yes, Victorian teams do play a number of away games in Melbourne. But we do not get a home ground advantage as inter-state teams do.

Nor do Vic teams get the away disadvantage as often.

 

[angryant]

Jeepers, some people have no knowledge of footy - Rodent how many games did Freo and the Weagles win in 2002? Checking your facts might be a good thing.

Now, from memory the way the National footy league was sold to SA and WA, our teams were invited to join the AFL - not an expended VFL. So either nothing counts from when Sydney had a team, or everything counts from when your team played in the premiership league in its state, thus Power rates only slightly above Freo in the number of cups held. Obviuosly the Vics would prefer the second option.

BTW, the VFL could not have functioned without the champions from other states. (including places like Kedron Qld look up who that might be if you're clueless)

PS. Read a history book before suggesting that the game was invented in Victoria, there appears to be quite some evidence that it was invented in NSW, transferred to the WA Goldfields and then incorporated the local Namitji (sorry spelling?) game.

 

[StefanoRoccoWhite]

Jeepers, some people have no knowledge of footy - Rodent how many games did Freo and the Weagles win in 2002? Checking your facts might be a good thing.

Now, from memory the way the National footy league was sold to SA and WA, our teams were invited to join the AFL - not an expended VFL. So either nothing counts from when Sydney had a team, or everything counts from when your team played in the premiership league in its state, thus Power rates only slightly above Freo in the number of cups held. Obviuosly the Vics would prefer the second option.

BTW, the VFL could not have functioned without the champions from other states. (including places like Kedron Qld look up who that might be if you're clueless)

PS. Read a history book before suggesting that the game was invented in Victoria, there appears to be quite some evidence that it was invented in NSW, transferred to the WA Goldfields and then incorporated the local Namitji (sorry spelling?) game.

If you ask any victorian the whole country was built from the blood sweat and tears of many a victorian.