Vs. Collingwood

[drakeyv2]

firsty well done on the victory crows supporters, well deserved. I want to pose a serious question and I am looking for and honest answer. Did you enjoy the way this game was player from half way through the 3rd quarter??. I thought this has the potential to be an excellent game of footy(first 2 and a half quaters) and ended up being a crap game to watch.I know our guys where also guilty of it but the crows seemed intent of just holding onto the footy and kicking to space, tactically it won you the game but made for a poor game to watch . I love my footy and love my team but like to think I am not nearly as one eyed as most of my fellow supporters but I am sick of watch this chipping crap , it is as boring as bat S&&T. Result aside is this the kind of footy you want to see??
This is not a dig at the Adelaide crows but more a dig at the way footy is played these days(all clubs do it) and it would like to know what supporters of other clubs think.

I was against changing the rules & not allowing marks to backwards kicks (in the back 1/2 anyway), before last night but I have changed my mind now.

I don't blaim them for doing it. It was clever. It stopped collingwood in their tracks, but what we saw in the last 1/2 of the 3rd quarter wasn't football.

 

[drakeyv2]

One more thing, how incredibly biased were the commentators! Just plain sickening!

You just can't get an unbiased commentry anymore. The TV & to a lesser extent the ABC were pretty much the Collingwood shows & 5AA is just a joke.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Stiffy, no. I haven't listened to 6PR.

Where are they on the radio dial?

How or where have you heard them?

Podcasts?

Some of 6PR calls would be relayed to 5AA during the footy season and those blokes in perth make 5AA staff look utterly professional and unbiased.

They are worse than 5AA and that in itself tells a story.

 

[tinman]

Some of 6PR calls would be relayed to 5AA during the footy season and those blokes in perth make 5AA staff look utterly professional and unbiased.

They are worse than 5AA and that in itself tells a story.

The trouble with 5AA is actually trying to work out sometimes what has gone on. Instead of commentating the footy it is more oohs and aahs.

Typical:
'.........kicks to half forward
Buuuuuurton..............ahhhhhh,
whoooooooohhh,
crikey how good was that.......
He just took off........
They don't call him birdman for nothing......
Just didn't quite hang onto it, ball in at center wing....
the rucks go at it.......'

Meanwhile the listener has to try and work out after all the hoo ha if Burton has taken a mark, you think he has, then he hasn't.

As for 6PR and Brad Hardie........please. He is Perth's KG. Speaks without thinking, is deliberately contraversial, few people think much of him, or agree with him, but people still listen.

 

[crowsarethebest]

Great game but then we played possesion footy which really hurt Collingwoods momentum. We definately need to work on our forward line- Good thing it's supposed to be a KPP jammed draft this year. Hentschell struggled and Perrie tried his guts out as usual. We are lacking that imposing Key forward.

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

GOOD:

-4pts, will take even an ugly win.

-Roo.

-Coaching panel. If it wasn't for the slow down in the third I think they may have run over us. It completely changed the momentum of the game.

-Bode - Checked this mornings paper, how the hell didn't he get in the bests. Fantastic performance. I thought he was one of the few willing to throw his body at the contest. 5 tackles, 4 clearances.

-Biglands 2 goals.

- Mattner - Fantastic. Does this mean he will no longer be used as a wingman? I hope not.

-Reilly - I thought he bounced back well after a poor 1st half.

-The Dispenser - Busted his guts all night again.

- Rutts. Destroyed Rocca.



UGLY:

-Roo aside. Our forward line. Becuase Perrie, Trent, Kenny and Welsh are all 2nd tiers, take one or two out of the mix and our forward line structure looks very average.


BAD:

Clarke - Bring on Maric.

Bit harsh on Clarke, I thought he started terribly and stated it in this thread but as the game wore on he just got better and better. When Biglands was sent forward Clarke really stood up and played a great game.

 

[Jars458]

Some of 6PR calls would be relayed to 5AA during the footy season and those blokes in perth make 5AA staff look utterly professional and unbiased.

They are worse than 5AA and that in itself tells a story.

They must be bad tehn

I refuse to listen to 5AA commentary.

KG and Rowey are nuf nufs and Cornsey is a pseudo intellectual bigoted snob in my view.

 

[JohnK]

Hentschell struggled and Perrie tried his guts out as usual. We are lacking that imposing Key forward.

I have to disagree. Hentschell and Perrie are both imposing and they drag their defenders with them wherever they go. Which creates oppportunities left for those left in the space they exit.

We lack a killer key forward in spite of Roo's six.

But maybe you don't need a killer full forward any more.

Maybe you just need to win the midfield, as mark williams says. Win that midfield consistently with consistent and reliable delivery and anyone up forward can be made to look like magic.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Are you saying that a game of football serves some vital social role? maybe it's just entertainment.

To a lot of people it is their life unfortunately. It's the only thing that makes their world go around. Whether it's because they have nothing else due to lack of social skills, financial, medical, or infirmed, football is the only thing that they feel life is worth living, and who are we to say they shouldn't have this way of life. I think it's sad, but if they get their rocks off by treating it so, then I don't have a problem with it.

 

[Crow-mo]

To a lot of people it is their life unfortunately. It's the only thing that makes their world go around. Whether it's because they have nothing else due to lack of social skills, financial, medical, or infirmed, football is the only thing that they feel life is worth living, and who are we to say they shouldn't have this way of life. I think it's sad, but if they get their rocks off by treating it so, then I don't have a problem with it.

are you sure you're not overstating things? you keep referring back to this, so i presume there is something real you are basing this on?

 

[macca23]

are you sure you're not overstating things? you keep referring back to this, so i presume there is something real you are basing this on?

Brian Cunningham would support that comment.

In a chat I had with him he told me that was one of Port's dilemmas - even if it had to rebuild drastically it just couldn't afford to have a Carlton type season because it had a lot of traditional supporters whose whole life revolved around whether Port won or lost. They had nothing else in their life to hang their hat on. Many of them had low self esteem, and their whole sense of worth related back to THEIR footy team being the best.

He said that the club felt an obligation to these die-hard supporters, but at times it was a burden as well.

 

[Alex99]

Brian Cunningham would support that comment.

In a chat I had with him he told me that was one of Port's dilemmas - even if it had to rebuild drastically it just couldn't afford to have a Carlton type season because it had a lot of traditional supporters whose whole life revolved around whether Port won or lost. They had nothing else in their life to hang their hat on. Many of them had low self esteem, and their whole sense of worth related back to THEIR footy team being the best.

He said that the club felt an obligation to these die-hard supporters, but at times it was a burden as well.

It’s ok to a have a part of your membership base as a cultural niche market but it will never help in the long run. Port Adelaide football club will have to change a few culture paradigms to attract the mainstream support from society in general; at the moment less than 10% of members would be from an alternative SANFL club. Whys that because the culture at Port Adelaide is not attractive to outsiders who do not support that dimension of society, it will never change until they remove the Port from it’s name or the area of Port Adelaide has an economical improvement.

That’s why I could never understand this logic that Port Adelaide supporters are suggesting that its ok to use the market share percentages as an excuse? Sure the Adelaide Crows have managed to swallow up 70% of the South Australian market share so it ok for us to use our 30% and only have 27,000 to a game as an excuse? Bull ********, in any industry where you rely on a competitive marketplace (attendance figures), as your prime source of income isn’t it the job of the Chief executive officer, general manager and marketing manager to implement strategies to increase your market share?

Port Adelaide supporter say it all the time that the Adelaide Crows have 8 SANFL clubs to use build a supporter base and turn them into season ticket holders, whose fault is that you decided to go alone. Please stop using that as an excuse because it’s your owns club decision not to diversify it’s ethos to incorporate potential outside interests, Port Adelaide are it’s own worse enemy in staying with the Port Adelaide environment thing as it has a strong connection to unemployment and low levels of social class. Port Adelaide Magpies supporters will continue to support the club but a very minute amounts of middle class adults who donot support the PAMFC will wants to have there children become Port Power supporter as it’s not an attractive quality in society to support a class of people below your wealth.

 

[- PC -]

. Win that midfield consistently with consistent and reliable delivery and anyone up forward can be made to look like magic.

Except if you are West Coast

Unless you have talent ie Phil Matera

 

[Crow-mo]

Brian Cunningham would support that comment.

In a chat I had with him he told me that was one of Port's dilemmas - even if it had to rebuild drastically it just couldn't afford to have a Carlton type season because it had a lot of traditional supporters whose whole life revolved around whether Port won or lost. They had nothing else in their life to hang their hat on. Many of them had low self esteem, and their whole sense of worth related back to THEIR footy team being the best.

He said that the club felt an obligation to these die-hard supporters, but at times it was a burden as well.

fair enough

 

[Markthirtytwo]

are you sure you're not overstating things? you keep referring back to this, so i presume there is something real you are basing this on?

For sure. Quite a lot of people ring talk back radio and write letters to the newspapers expressing their feelings that they are loosing this important part of their lives. It's bigger than I even thought.

 

[rooboy]

To a lot of people it is their life unfortunately. It's the only thing that makes their world go around. Whether it's because they have nothing else due to lack of social skills, financial, medical, or infirmed, football is the only thing that they feel life is worth living, and who are we to say they shouldn't have this way of life. I think it's sad, but if they get their rocks off by treating it so, then I don't have a problem with it.

Hey, you're talking about me. And yes, I'm a sad,sad individual.