Warner

[1990crow]

I don't really understand people on this board giving this guy a hard time and saying that he isn't a test batsmen. There aren't too many young batsmen going around at the moment who are putting runs on the board, but this guy certainly is. Has thoroughly earned his spot and I think he should be given the oppurtunity to show what he's got. Dropping him after one game would be a waste. He actually has a very good technique, temperament, eye and is a brilliant fielder. If I was looking to field a test cricketer for the future, he would actually be high on the list. For those knocking him, prepare to be embarrassed.

 

[Underarm]

He was the best for the job, but is the first dropped once marsh or watto come back.

But I for one would love to see him put pressure on those above to drop someone else. Competition will make the whole team play better.

 

[Hellgood]

I think Hughes probably should be dropped before him. Obviously Warner would need to make runs in the second dig to be afforded this luxury.

 

[krisholio14]

I hope Warner is afforded the opportunities to prove himself that blokes like S.Waugh and Clarke have been given over the years, because he's more talented than both of them, and they've captained the country.

 

[CHIEF SMACKAHOE]

I hope Warner is afforded the opportunities to prove himself that blokes like S.Waugh and Clarke have been given over the years, because he's more talented than both of them, and they've captained the country.

sri lankan fan trying to sabotage a rival team?

 

[krisholio14]

sri lankan fan trying to sabotage a rival team?

I would kill to have a guy of Warner's ability coming through our ranks.

 

[CHIEF SMACKAHOE]

I would kill to have a guy of Warner's ability coming through our ranks.

matthews>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>warner

 

[krisholio14]

matthews>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>warner

I rate Mathews very highly, but Warner could/will be something else.

I don't understand the dislike to be honest.

Early doors I could understand and even agreed with the criticisms of him (and as we found out today, so did he), but he's done everything he's been asked to do thus far and then some.

He gets a jaffa in the first innings that would have got plenty of quality batsmen out, and somehow that's an indication he's still a one dimensional slogger who shouldn't be anywhere near that test team?

I was at a pub with a mate a few years back, and he insisted that Dave Warner would be the next all time great Australian batsman, and I quite literally laffed at him. But then these two blokes heard us talking and came over. One of the guys (who if I remember rightly was a coach or some sort with a district team) said, 'I heard you talking about Warner, let me tell you, he's the best all round hitter of a cricket ball since Viv'. I sorta laffed again, but then I thought that this bloke probably knew more about these sorts of things than I did, and if he's making a call like that, he must be seeing something.

I changed my tune about Dave Warner after that afternoon, and since then he's done nothing I've seen to make me think he's not going to be a gun player outside of the T20 arena.

 

[Bombers_Forever]

Hughes should get dropped before Warner when Watson and/or Marsh come back but it won't happen.

 

[CHIEF SMACKAHOE]

Hughes should get dropped before Warner when Watson and/or Marsh come back but it won't happen.

hughes is a talented test batsman with a few technical problems, he'll be a star once they're ironed out

warner is a slogger

 

[The_Reaper]

hughes is a talented test batsman with a few technical problems, he'll be a star once they're ironed out

warner is a slogger

Warner has a good technique to back up his slogging though.

 

[1990crow]

hughes is a talented test batsman with a few technical problems, he'll be a star once they're ironed out

warner is a slogger

Open your eyes and stop trolling

 

[ManWithNoName]

Stop feeding the troll people.

 

[Blessed]

Time will tell.

Lets see how he plays the moving ball.

 

[Sman-21]

Gilly was also pretty much a slogger.
So was sehwag

Reason they get away with it an are more succesful than most is a great eye and reactions.

I think Warner can be a very handy test batsmen BUT NOT AS AN OPENER.
Down at 4 or 5 is his position.
He is far to risky to be an opener and an openers main job is to try an see off the new ball runs arent as vital so getting off to a quick start isnt a priority.

 

[Slax]

I think Warner can be a very handy test batsmen BUT NOT AS AN OPENER.
Down at 4 or 5 is his position.
He is far to risky to be an opener and an openers main job is to try an see off the new ball runs arent as vital so getting off to a quick start isnt a priority.

I actually like having someone like Warner opening the batting, he can really set up an innings by scoring a quick 50 and taking the pressure off the player at the other end. Though to work well you need a more traditional opener with him who is patient and willingf to take time and see off the new ball.

Warner should be given another shot, he got a great delivery in the 1st innings, whilst Hughes went cheaply twice to crap shots. He's also scored runs this year at 1st class level and has far more potential than Hughes does, who needs to go back to shield cricket and fix his problems up.

 

[Yabba]

Warner has a pretty reasonable technique. He is far from a slogger, apart from when he 'switch hits' he actually plays proper cricket shots most of the time when batting in the shorter forms. The only reason he will not make it is if he has poor shot selection, which is mental, its not going to be technical.

 

[Bourky23]

Though to work well you need a more traditional opener with him who is patient and willingf to take time and see off the new ball.

like Katich.

wait, wut?

 

[aussierulesrules]

I really like the idea of Warner opening, with either Marsh or Khawaja for balance, allowing Watson to slip down the order to take a load off.
Ponting won't get the ass any time soon after his recent runs, so maybe Watto just drops down to 3 for now. That will hopefully give him a better break between bowling and having to bat and when Ponting goes, he can drop down to 4.
It would be harsh to leave Khawaja out at the moment, but unless they don't pick Ponting, or Hussey (who dominated just a couple of months ago for us in Sri Lanka) then there are 4 of them (Warner, Marsh, Khawaja and Hughes) fighting for 2 spots. For me, Hughes is the first to go and I reckon we have to see what Warner has to offer while he's on fire, so he opens with one of the other two. If they pick it purely on who is best at test level right now Marsh gets the nod, but if they decide he's too risky (fitness wise) and want to find a more reliable long-term solution, they will go with Usman.

 

[Bombertastic]

Gilly was also pretty much a slogger.
So was sehwag

Reason they get away with it an are more succesful than most is a great eye and reactions.

I think Warner can be a very handy test batsmen BUT NOT AS AN OPENER.
Down at 4 or 5 is his position.
He is far to risky to be an opener and an openers main job is to try an see off the new ball runs arent as vital so getting off to a quick start isnt a priority.

Down the order is definately where Warner or even Hughes should both be. Warner is no Sehwag. New Zealand is trying to turn McCullum in a Sehwag as well. I don't understand the logic. Both teams are getting it wrong.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Sehwag begs to differ. In fact he was apparently the one who convinced Warner that he could go on and do the same sort of job he does himself in tests, when Warner seemingly hadn't even considered it:
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/sehwag-talk-convinced-warner-of-test-push-20111128-1o3br.html

I wouldn't have any problem with Warner batting down the order, though, and have also said a few times recently that I would probably prefer to see Hughes bat at 3, as I'm not sure opening is for him.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I like how everyone was unsure of Warner as an opener but he hits three 4's against a bowling attack that had no incentive whatsoever and now he's a lock and the next Hayden.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I like how everyone was unsure of Warner as an opener but he hits three 4's against a bowling attack that had no incentive whatsoever and now he's a lock and the next Hayden.

I like how much you're exaggerating and talking shit. It's pretty impressive considering it was all done in one sentence: "everyone", "no incentive whatsoever", "a lock" and "the next Hayden"! Wow.

 

[OzBomber]

Someone who plays positive cricket and plays their shots is not a slogger. Gilly was not a slogger.

Shahid Afridi is a slogger.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Some are clearly living in the past and maybe think it's still 1975 and that you have to bat like Bill Lawry to be able to play test cricket.
Things have changed and with the shorter forms of the game becoming more and more popular there will be less and less of the "traditional test match players" and more who play like like Sehwag, Andrew Symonds, Adam Gilchrist, Jesse Ryder (who averages 43) and David Warner.