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are u guys friggen serious? petterd?- he is practically our best young player at the club. You guys have NO bargaining power. We will decide if you get anything for warnock...or he will go straight into the PSD and we will pick him up for free.

petterd! lol. as if


Lol's at this ass clown,

1. Has he nominated a club like Judd? No
2. Is he still at Freo? Yes
3. has he said that he's leaving yet? No

Please dont come on here beating your chest like king bloody kong when you still have no hairs on you chest.
 
are u guys friggen serious? petterd?- he is practically our best young player at the club. You guys have NO bargaining power. We will decide if you get anything for warnock...or he will go straight into the PSD and we will pick him up for free.

petterd! lol. as if
what's his contractual situation? if he is uncontracted, then i am sure your club won't mind us flying him across the country and giving him a power point presentation? maybe we can convince him to come over

do you have any western australians coming out of contract?
 
are u guys friggen serious? petterd?- he is practically our best young player at the club. You guys have NO bargaining power. We will decide if you get anything for warnock...or he will go straight into the PSD and we will pick him up for free.

petterd! lol. as if

Gimp. Go die in a fire.

You infuriate me with your lack of intelligence.
Your arguments make no sense whatsoever.
First you say that you want Warnock, then you say that he's crap and that he's not rated. You would think that if a club is chasing a player like Melbourne is for Warnock that he must have something to offer.

Stop. Go away and rub those two brain cells together and come back when you have something intelligent to say.

Damn trolls.
 
so we get a few months of freo fans over selling his worth and asking for the sky and Melbourne fans underselling him offering zip. Trade week can't come soon enough.
 

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So.. Scott Thompson and Adelaide screwed you over after he didnt show too much.. and you got Pick 12 out of it.. .
Don't ever accuse another person of not knowing anything about the game, that is mind boggling.

BOT I agree that Gary Lyon does make a twit of himself on tv, I wouldn't worry too much about a lot of his stuff. Melbourne and Freo will surely do a deal of some kind.

oh yeah, wishing injury on the guy in this thread (even on the possibility of psd) while he is still playing for you guys is pretty ordinary.
 
Don't ever accuse another person of not knowing anything about the game, that is mind boggling.

BOT I agree that Gary Lyon does make a twit of himself on tv, I wouldn't worry too much about a lot of his stuff. Melbourne and Freo will surely do a deal of some kind.

oh yeah, wishing injury on the guy in this thread (even on the possibility of psd) while he is still playing for you guys is pretty ordinary.
I said he didnt show too much. Not that he didnt show potential. He was good, but not like Chris Judd before he went home if you know what I mean. Jeez way to take it out of context.
 
Contract talk taken from Demonland (I couldn't find a list anywhere else), posted 12/8/08.

CERTAIN
2008 - Green, Holland, Bell, Bode, Weetra, CJ, Dunn, Moloney, Whelan
2009 - Sylvia, Jamar, Miller, Meesen,
2010 -

NOT CERTAIN
2008 - Warnock, Buckley
2009 - Martin, Wheatley, Rivers, PJ, Batram
2010 -


Anyone there worth having a chat to about maybe plonking themselves into the PSD? I'd laugh my box off if M Warnock holds off contract talks until the end of the season.
 
Then we lose Warnock and Ziebell or Hartlett for Natanui.

And i doubt that Melbourne will be willing to part with Jack Watts as they are in such need for a key forward.

Would be a better outcome than a 4th rounder though.


Yeah i guess this is if Warnock decides he wants to leave. I think package him with a pick for something half decent in the draft
 
Whats the trade history like between the two clubs?
The dogs were in the same position with McMahon and Richmond last year but Richmond chose to trade with us instead of getting him through the PSD for nothing and keep a healthy relationship between the two clubs.
farmer for pick 17 is the last trade we did back in 2001
 
Whats the trade history like between the two clubs?
The dogs were in the same position with McMahon and Richmond last year but Richmond chose to trade with us instead of getting him through the PSD for nothing and keep a healthy relationship between the two clubs.


I can't recall a player traded between the two clubs since Farmer and Simmonds so there's no recent history.

The fact that Chris Connolly is their footy manager is what makes it interesting though. A medal was created last year specifically for Connolly to acknowledge the work he did for Fremantle off field (building membership, sponsorship, that sort of shit). It will be interesting if he turns around and plays a part in us getting screwed for a talented young player.
 

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The fact that Chris Connolly is their footy manager is what makes it interesting though. A medal was created last year specifically for Connolly to acknowledge the work he did for Fremantle off field (building membership, sponsorship, that sort of shit). It will be interesting if he turns around and plays a part in us getting screwed for a talented young player.

Even more ironic is it's one of the very, very few talented young players that CC drafted in his whole time here.
 
yes Rip - this is the trade that should happen!!!

:thumbsu::thumbsu:

why would we get rid of m.warnock after he has had his best season at the club?
face the facts, warnock will be coming to melbourne for a psd pick or a very late national draft pick..stop pretending you have any power. He has hinted that he wants to be a demon anyway.
 
According to channel 7 Richmond have confirmed interest in securing Robbie Warnock at seasons end should he wish to return to Victoria.

Let the bidding war begin.


That's irrelevant if Warnock nominates the Demons as his club of choice though RGauci. It's not like there was a bidding war for Josh Carr or Stenglein because they both only wanted to play for one WA club.
 

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Their 4th rounder will be pick 51 so we'd probably accept it relucantly. That will probably be their first offer, maybe coupled with a mediocre player.

You know I hope we wouldn't accept it and say go into the PSD ....Melb may very well say fine we hold all of the cards.

However I guarantee you that with the state of Melb's list if they can trade and get Warnock (lets say for 51) - they will avail themselves of someone in the PSD.

It may not be a lot but if they offer 51 and he only wants the Dees - let him walk and at least cost them a Cam Cloke type or deny them the ability to let a few undrafted youngsters train with them allowing them to take the one that suits them the best.

Play hardball, cut nose off etc ...losing pick 51 aint going to kill us and it means if a higher profile player happens to nominate (trade week can get hectic at the end) ...it costs them all flexibility.

If he wants to come back to Victoria, Carlton might be interested in him Superstar Cain Ackland and Cloke can only get you so far. I actually dont mind Cloke as a depth player but our rucks Hampson and Kruezer are still too young and are getting murdered by the bigger bodied ruckman out there.

Also we can offer him a brighter future than Melbourne, we actually have a future:D.

Important question is can Warnock carry 1st ruck duties?

Warnock is more of a number 1 ruck that Cam Cloke and is better placed than Kruezer IMHO. Don't forget - there is another pre-season between now and 2009. If Sandi went down Warnock would (and has) led our ruck division well.

Warnock + Pick 4, for Pick 1....Get Natanui so the ruck stocks dont drop...

Not a great deal for us.

Not a lot of difference between 1 & 6 ...I'd favour a pick in the 20's over an upgrade.

I really wish that you scum of the earth over in the west would realise that this has been happening for a very long time, the only problem is that its happenin to your club. Fair chance that Headland and Farmer were both in contact with both WA club during the season before they came back, IT HAPPENS GET OVER IT. Players come and go, you dont here melbourne fans crying about scott thompson, IT JUST HAPPENS.

He has only been a bigfooty member for a week ......let me guess long time reader/first time poster.
 
You know I hope we wouldn't accept it and say go into the PSD ....Melb may very well say fine we hold all of the cards.


Yeah under normal circumstances I'd say stuff em, use the PSD then. But we'll hopefully have 6 or 7 picks in the national draft this year.

If we were to take pick 51 from Melbourne for Warnock and assuming we want to use 7 picks we'd have picks 3, 21, 37, 51, 53, 69 and 85. If we get a player or nothing for Warnock we'll have picks 3, 21, 37, 53, 69, 85 and 101.

That shitty pick at 51 doesn't make much difference until our 5th selection. Someone who our recruiters might rate highly could slide through to pick 53, but will that player still be there at pick 69? Then again with our 6th pick, the player we rate as being a real talent available at pick 69 probably won't be there at 85.
 
Yeah under normal circumstances I'd say stuff em, use the PSD then. But we'll hopefully have 6 or 7 picks in the national draft this year.

If we were to take pick 51 from Melbourne for Warnock and assuming we want to use 7 picks we'd have picks 3, 21, 37, 51, 53, 69 and 85. If we get a player or nothing for Warnock we'll have picks 3, 21, 37, 53, 69, 85 and 101.

That shitty pick at 51 doesn't make much difference until our 5th selection. Someone who our recruiters might rate highly could slide through to pick 53, but will that player still be there at pick 69? Then again with our 6th pick, the player we rate as being a real talent available at pick 69 probably won't be there at 85.

I'd prefer not to accept pick 51, its not enough compensation and it leaves them with the PSD free (an upgrade of 1 place in the PSD is better than pick 51. I think Robert Warnock will seriously consider Richmond. They will keep Melbourne honest at the trade table. Terry Wallace is in his last year of contract. He'll be throwing picks around willy nilly to keep his job.

Think about the following:

Melbourne have:

Jeff White - 13 games in 2008 (31 years of age)
Paul Johnson - 16 games
Mark Jamar - 13 games
John Meeson - 0 games
Jake Spencer (rookie)

Richmond have:

Troy Simmonds - 20 games (30 years of age)
Adam Pattison - 18 games
Dean Putt - 0 games
Angus Graham - 0 games
Tristan Cartledge (rookie) - 1 game

Warnock would be further guaranteed of the 1st ruck at Richmond than at Melbourne. Melbourne could, despite getting Warnock, recruit Naitanui.

Richmond are better placed to offer more money.

I think at worst we would get Richmond's 2nd rounder. From Melbourne the worst we could do is get their 2nd rounder.

IMO the best we could do is convince Richmond to trade its 1st rounder and 2nd rounder for Warnock and our 2nd rounder.

Effectively upgrading their 2nd pick and nabbing a pick around top 10.

I'm not worried. We won't rippped because Wallace is in his last year.
 
I couldnt see you getting our first rounder, it will be pick 7 or 8. We would definetly offer our second rounder though (25 odd).
 

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