WBBL|02 (Women's Big Bash League '16/'17)

[TheBeardAmigos]

a real contest here... a contest of how s**t they can be, both these teams have being putrid today

only batting was questionable, everything else was of excellent standard. batting tactics arguably let the game down

 

[Cleavy]

Andy Maher: "looks like the heavy cover is going down, so the rain must be getting heavier."
Female co-commentator: "actually they're removing the covers." Lol

 

[Cleavy]

Don't see why they're shortening the game by 1 over, there is a large enough gap between the men's and women's game to fit it all in.

EDIT: I guess they have to finish everything prior to the Ch10 news broadcast at 5pm?

 

[DEVO]

Shame for the Renegades, thier openers were looking really sharp and scoring freely.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Shame for the Renegades, thier openers were looking really sharp and scoring freely.

apparently will pass shortly, but you never know down here

 

[Cleavy]

Would have been nice if ch10 could have had a more in-depth discussion about the WBBL comp and shown highlights, rather than discussing the men's stuff.

 

[Xtreme]

a real contest here... a contest of how s**t they can be, both these teams have being putrid today

Colour me surprised I mean it is the women's version of cricket after all, of course it's going to be putrid.

 

[corbies]

Why would the target change once you are out there Meg?

 

[catpremier 07]

Why would the target change once you are out there Meg?

Very odd, commentators are a bit clueless to.

 

[corbies]

Very odd, commentators are a bit clueless to.

I dont know what they are going on about. Surely a loss of wickets only changes the target if the overs are further reduced? The target is set with the amount of resources available at the rain delay. It doesnt matter what happens after, the target is already set.

Edit: Hallelujah they've worked it out. It's only been in use for 20 years.

 

[Cleavy]

does anyone understand the Duckworth-Lewis (now Duckworth-Lewis-Stern) anyway?

 

[Voice of the G]

Rain effected T20 games are a farce if the game has to be decided on the day/night.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Why would the target change once you are out there Meg?

because it always does in every other D/L scenario.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Colour me surprised I mean it is the women's version of cricket after all, of course it's going to be putrid.

mate, get out if you dont have anything good to add. women's cricket isnt for everyone, but dont have to diss it.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

does anyone understand the Duckworth-Lewis (now Duckworth-Lewis-Stern) anyway?

hmmm...


umm....

ahh..


no

 

[corbies]

because it always does in every other D/L scenario.

Can you show me a match where that has occured? The target only changes if the overs are further reduced which makes sense.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Can you show me a match where that has occured? The target only changes if the overs are further reduced which makes sense.

its the par score that changes.

so since the Gades lost a wicket straight after the delay, the score would go up to say 60 and if they lost another one, it would have gone to 65 etc.

scorecards cant tell you that story, but that is what usually happens.

EDIT: i may be wrong, but from memory, the above usually happens

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/page/409991.html

this explains the law.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

i know where the confusion was.

with the Gades and when they batted, they lost an over which decreased the target and the overs. From there, they would have had a par score that they would have to better had the game washed out. The par score changes with wickets lost, but the target score stays the same. Meg must have got confused between the two (which can happen, as the rule is confusing AF), hence the target stayed the same, but the par score would have changed.

hope that is clear for people, but that is where the confusion was

 

[corbies]

i know where the confusion was.

with the Gades and when they batted, they lost an over which decreased the target and the overs. From there, they would have had a par score that they would have to better had the game washed out. The par score changes with wickets lost, but the target score stays the same. Meg must have got confused between the two (which can happen, as the rule is confusing AF), hence the target stayed the same, but the par score would have changed.

hope that is clear for people, but that is where the confusion was

Yes and the par score is only relevant if further overs are lost which is what I was saying, although you've summarised it much better than I did. Just FYI they would have also had a par score if they hadn't lost the initial first over. The par score only comes into play if the rest of the game is washed out (as you said).

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Yes and the par score is only relevant if further overs are lost which is what I was saying, although you've summarised much better than I did. Just FYI they would have also had a par score if they hadn't lost the initial first over. The par score only comes into play if the rest of the game is washed out (as you said).

yep, true.

glad that is cleared up, it got confusing AF

 

[corbies]

yep, true.

glad that is cleared up, it got confusing AF

Yeah it can be confusing but when you think about it logically it makes sense and is easily the best way of setting rain-advised targets that I've seen.

And before anyone asks yes I am in fact Frank Duckworth.

 

[Reign Man]

Milton Brown, star on the rise.

 

[corbies]

Milton Brown, star on the rise.

Maitlan Brown?

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Maitlan Brown?

yep.

not as big a star as Sophie Molineux though