We Deserve It 2011

[The Night Shift]

We all the myriad of reasons why our team is out of form and shit out of luck but **** me silly, show some fight when the season is on the line lads.
Freo can't even run out a game.
The few positives may be the emergence of Kareem Abdul Zac Clarke and Barlows return but we have just collapased towards the seasons end.
..and stop playing Pav in the middle.
So much to address in the off-season. Hopefully not more season killing injuries for players and shit preperation for fitness this upcoming pre season..

It must have been the jumper change after all....

 

[ImperialPurple]

Oh thank god Night Fury, finally someone talking sense... those flipping new jumpers...

 

[Clay Davis]

Bring back Cameron Schwab.

 

[the doc]

We all the myriad of reasons why our team is out of form and shit out of luck but **** me silly, show some fight when the season is on the line lads.
Freo can't even run out a game.
The few positives may be the emergence of Kareem Abdul Zac Clarke and Barlows return but we have just collapased towards the seasons end.
..and stop playing Pav in the middle.
So much to address in the off-season. Hopefully not more season killing injuries for players and shit preperation for fitness this upcoming pre season..

It must have been the jumper change after all....

Still how we deserved 2011?? We did not deserve to be decimated by injuries but this year has shown up that some our structures are poor.

We deserved to be able put our best team on the park and see if we were serious finalists. Now there is going to be a summer of contemplation.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

Sorry Night_Fury, but it's true what they say about the sequel never being as good as the original, but I suppose there is nothing you can do about that, the original was an all time classic.

The two gripes for me this season:

Playing dull, unimaginative, "loser mentality" type football. Almost every single player we have recruited over the past few season is offensively gifted. When we open the game up, make the play and take risks, we are like a baby Geelong, but when we play Cuddles-esque chip it around, long kick down the line guttertripe, we look like a pile of shit.

Fire up Freo, and show some effing balls.

and;

A bunch of ****ing pea hearts running around in the purple. Our tackling is pathetic, our desire when things aren't going our way non existant, and our will as a football team is insipid. One of the Hallmarks of the premiership winning teams of the past decade is, they will come at you like a Juggernaut, all game, every game. We make a run at the win for maybe half the match. If we blow a team away early, rest assured we will fall asleep and let them climb all over us, and if we are behind, we don't have the heart to fight tooth and nail to drag ourselves back into the contest.

I don't give a shit how sweet our players look with 20m of space on the wing, if they don't have the heart to put their head over the ball, or run back with the flight, or scrap for every 50/50, or chase every single player or ball, then I don't want to see them in my team. I'd trade half of these pea hearts for a nearly 40 year old Troy Cook in a heart beat.

Fkng Pea Hearts.

 

[The Night Shift]

You do it so much more better than me Muff.. You'd think I'd learn. This abuseive relationship. FFC don't show the love to the supporter base.

Still how we deserved 2011?? We did not deserve to be decimated by injuries but this year has shown up that some our structures are poor.

We deserved to be able put our best team on the park and see if we were serious finalists. Now there is going to be a summer of contemplation.

We didn't deserve any of it. The thread title is a throw-back to what was the greatest all-time dummy spit/rant/insult throwing thread in this forum.


Bloody Chevrons. Pass me a tin foil hat please.

The injuries have been total bullshit... especially when you see other clubs gliding on by with hardly any... and not to key players.

 

[Scootyb]

What we need to do between now and next year:

Get our list fit. Get Hill, Sandi, Barlow, Mundy, Rog (if its not all over for him) etc fully right.
Mora will be raring to go.

Have a really big, injury free preseason. I saw a beastly fit Carlton unit today, they always had an available body on the lead through better fitness and workrate

Focus again on manic forward and tackling pressure- like the start of 2010

Develop 4 or 5 different kickout tactics- atm we have one and its too easy to counter.

Draft some qualities kids and mature rookies again. Talls, mids, i dont really care. Turn the list over again and improve our depth / bottom 6 players

 

[MadMac]

Bring back Cameron Schwab.

Now you're just being silly, Clay. Today's "performance" might indirectly be attributed to the admin [well actually the whole season] for lack of planning within the footy department but that's as far as you can go. It's up to the players, first and foremost, to run out the game. You can't blame Rosich for that. Harvs should take half the blame, easily.

 

[MadMac]

The injuries have been total bullshit... especially when you see other clubs gliding on by with hardly any... and not to key players.

Hawks had as bad injury list as ours. At times better but also at times worse than ours, so overall about on a par. Didn't seem to affect them as much.

I'm not really that pissed off with todays game, I mean, we lost to a better team, there's no doubt about that.Suse, we were bad today but there have been worse games this year. It's games against the softest sides in the competition, Melborne and Richmond where we got belted, it's last quarter capitulation vs Hawthorn and St. Kilda away and even worse showing at home against those sides. Those are the games that make me believe that despite the injuries we went not one, but several steps back from last year.

 

[theGav56]

If there is something we can do to limit injuries then we should do it, that is a no brainer.

I think the list is about as complete as we need to play good football and crack some finals gametime. Even with some injuries. That is not to say there are not some holes, but most teams have some limitations, and they design a strategy around it. And we just have not done that.

We need to juice up our off-field dept, assistant coaches, brains-trust; every single aspect that we can. For sure the kick-ins need work. The forward line needs massive attention. The use of the sub needs thinking. There seems to be lots of areas.

No stone unturned.

 

[The Night Shift]

Serious question...


Is Mark Harvey up to being a competitive tactician on match day?


Does he need help?


I think so.

Get the man some decent assistants. We need to get to the club a real Napolean, Wellington, Rommell type match day general to make us more a difficult team to play, and of course, to win games. The team needs a killer edge. Eye of the tiger.. that kind of shit.

I'm sick of seeing Pav in the middle.

 

[electricfeel]

I honestly don't think Harvey is the coach for us anymore.

He seems so intent on the "left-of-field" type stuff rather than focusing on the basics. Skills, tackling and being hard at the ball are being ignored.

Seriously, what is our game plan? Who are our forwards? I don't even know anymore...it changes all the time. Today we had McPharlin and Silvagni in the forward line....why? Shouldn't we focus on having a set team structure and game plan rather than consistently messing around with it? Yes, we have had injuries and a deficiency in the midfield but rather than have a typical "um oh crap lets just put Pav there" panic attack, why didn't he back in other midfielders to stand up to the challenge whilst Barlow and Mundy were missing. It's round 21 now and we still have Pav in the midfield. We could've used that time to get some solid midfield time into Broughton, Palmer, de Boer, Lower, Fyfe et al and get them used to playing with each other but we didn't and now we're still stuffed in the midfield.

 

[Sman-21]

Freo dropped the anchor.
When u drop an anchor it sinks to the bottom an that is whats happening.

But i place alot of blame on our preseason.
Im sure they overworked the players.
Leading to so many leg injuries.
Players looking slow an tired since about round 10.

Wasted far too much time running
No where near enough on basic skills.
Teach the basics do them better than most an results will come.
Need to work on tackling
Need to work on handballs in tight
Need to work on kicking etc etc.
Spend more time on them an we will be much better off.

Next GAMEPLAN its pathetic fast break football only way we can score, slow us down an we struggle to even get a point.

Players played out of position
Last quarter i think we had Tendai,Mayne an Zac with Sandi in ruck for alot of the time.
Gee thats a scary midfield setup some absolute stars right there i bet carlton were crappin themselves when they saw all them guns in the midfield.

When u have forwards playing midfield, midfielders playing forward is it any wonder noone knows what there doing an its an absolute mess.
Defenders have mostly been playing in defense this year i wonder if thats why there the only group that can hold their heads up this season.

Our midfield is a joke.
Anytime we get clearances generally its just a scrambly kick that ends up coming back the other way anyway.
Opposition gets clearance an theres players in space running free an it becomes a dangerous clearance.

An i am extremely pissed off
Once again early sat game makes me miss out on work to go watch the game.
An the players serve up this pea hearted crap.
There a bunch of Pansies only guy who can hold his head up is Silvagni, seemed to be the only one who cared in the first half.

Then halfway through the 3rd quarter when game was over, the rest of the team decided to actually put in abit of an effort an we started to play better an make carlton struggle.
WHERE THE **** WAS THAT KIND OF INTENSITY WHEN THE GAME WAS THERE TO BE WON.

 

[Borry]

They will be changing the song in the off season, that's gotta take priority.

 

[MadMac]

They will be changing the song in the off season, that's gotta take priority.

I don't really care about the song and what they do with it, as long as they recruit some good assistants in the off season.

 

[Borry]

I don't really care about the song and what they do with it, as long as they recruit some good assistants in the off season.

Agreed.

I am just pissed off. The club is just continuing to find ways to break hearts and slap supporter's faces when things are happy...

 

[Patty_Moz]

I don't really care about the song and what they do with it, as long as they recruit some good assistants in the off season.

Agreed. Some strength and fitness staff to work on injury management along with a decent weights program to put some muscle on our lightweight team.

 

[The Night Shift]

The football department certainly needs a little refit it seems.

A fews player can go with the broom...

 

[Clay Davis]

I don't really care about the song and what they do with it, as long as they recruit some good assistants in the off season.

No, song comes first. It's so embarrassing to sing after a win that it is preventing us from winning.