Opinion When are you willing to call a game "over"

[Gumby2Hurley]

Against the pies? never
Against the saints? first to 8 goals

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

After the Port win, Campbell Brown by memory call the game 5 seconds before Rioli kicked the goal.

The old saying it's not over until the fat lady sings might not be relevant given 19 on the field no longer resets the score.

So when is it time to make the call.

I think 14 points is still gettable so long as you leave 40 seconds to get the last two like Port did. In perfect circumstances a team can score a goal in 6 to 8 seconds from centre bounce. Then there's 50m penalties free kicks etc.

Obviously nailing centre bounces repeatedly is hard but still possible.

I'd say 28 points for 2 minutes and I'd call the game barring some stupid double goal. Even 21 points is gettable so long as the goal comes immediately.

36 points for 3 minutes.

Huh? What math is this?

14 points with how long left? 40 seconds? Nope, game over.

28 points with 2 minutes? Definitely over. 21 points? Also definitely over.

36 in 3 minutes????

You do realise a goal is 6 points right?

You'd need to be within x+1 goals with X amount of time remaining. Key point is within, otherwise a draw is probably the best result you can get.

But then it becomes exponentially harder the greater X is, so realistically the equation only comes into play in the last few minutes. 4 probably the absolute max (would mean 5 goals in 4 minutes).

 

[Cleansweep17]

Almost like he's never seen a game of footy before. Like 2 goals in a min or 3 in 2 min has never happened

I think Sportsbet closes mid game betting when the odds are too low for a team to come back and win. We should probably just go with that.

 

[Cursed Cat]

I never think a team should lose once they get 25 points up.

 

[Purple7x08_24]

Huh? What math is this?

14 points with how long left? 40 seconds? Nope, game over.

28 points with 2 minutes? Definitely over. 21 points? Also definitely over.

36 in 3 minutes????

You do realise a goal is 6 points right?

You'd need to be within x+1 goals with X amount of time remaining. Key point is within, otherwise a draw is probably the best result you can get.

But then it becomes exponentially harder the greater X is, so realistically the equation only comes into play in the last few minutes. 4 probably the absolute max (would mean 5 goals in 4 minutes).

40 seconds IF you get the first goal before then

 

[Xtreme]

When there's a 20+ point lead

Even in the 1st quarter

 

[jakson68]

Haha wasn’t far off on Sat night.
Was about 4 mins into the first quarter.

Yeah it is good to poke fun at the Tigers but lets face it, with the success you guys had a few years ago, there would be supporters from many clubs who still wouldn't have sobered up from the party.

 

[boncer34]

When I get to the stadium, we're a powerhouse atm.

 

[Sentinel]

The 6-6-6 has changed a lot, but there was an interesting suggestion on the Dogs board post the Port win - with 22 seconds on the clock and a centre bounce, would Hawthorn have been better off to concede a 6-6-6 violation free kick (and hand the ball to Port) by flooding their defensive 50 prior to the ball being bounced, rather than risk Port getting a centre clearance and kicking into an open forwardline?

 

[kickazz]

Broadly speaking, 8 goals is the margin in my head where a comeback isn't really worth considering.

 

[Shane Heard]

According to Dwayne Russell a team could be 5 goals up with a minute left, yet "there's still time if they're good enough" for the trailing team to win. So...

Yeah well Dwayne is a massive c/ head after all

 

[BF Tiger]

The old goal a minute thing is really only applicable for three (goals/minutes) or less. To think one team could score four goals in four minutes is pretty fanciful, but to then think that a team that is leading by four goals with four minutes left could let through four goals is even more fanciful.

 

[hawkman]

The 6-6-6 has changed a lot, but there was an interesting suggestion on the Dogs board post the Port win - with 22 seconds on the clock and a centre bounce, would Hawthorn have been better off to concede a 6-6-6 violation free kick (and hand the ball to Port) by flooding their defensive 50 prior to the ball being bounced, rather than risk Port getting a centre clearance and kicking into an open forwardline?

When you concede the free it should still be 6-6-6 until the ump calls play on from the free kick

 

[Cam Payne]

I'm a if they have to score the same number of goals as they have to this point just to get level, then you are rooted. An easy late third or start of the forth quarter call.

 

[Purple Suit]

The game is basically the first to 100 wins. If your score is under 100 then your not safe, like the hawks found out.

 

[Sentinel]

When you concede the free it should still be 6-6-6 until the ump calls play on from the free kick

I don't believe that's the case - a free kick would release all players from their 6-6-6 starting positions.

However, on checking the rulebook, it's not possible anyway due to Law 18.2.2 (e) which I guess is designed to prevent this exact scenario: Where a field Umpire is satisfied that an intentional breach of Law 13.1 (Starting Positions) has occurred, a Free Kick and Fifty Metre Penalty shall be awarded to the Player of theopposing Team who is in the Centre Circle

 

[hawkman]

I don't believe that's the case - a free kick would release all players from their 6-6-6 starting positions.

However, on checking the rulebook, it's not possible anyway due to Law 18.2.2 (e) which I guess is designed to prevent this exact scenario: Where a field Umpire is satisfied that an intentional breach of Law 13.1 (Starting Positions) has occurred, a Free Kick and Fifty Metre Penalty shall be awarded to the Player of theopposing Team who is in the Centre Circle

A ruckman having a shot from 30 out may not have been the worst option

 

[Cyclops]

Lethal formula was true in his era. Fitness was worse then, and generally it was a slog in the last quarter (and defenders could wallop forwards and get away with it).

The stuff ITT about 666 makes sense, and I think the Pies have shown having a load of fit blokes makes narrow margins gettable in short time frames.

36 points in 180 seconds isn't realistic though. It may happen someday, but i doubt I'll live to see it.

Sides give up too. They go through the motions but you see when they are mentally of physically shot. So nominal gettable margins have to consider the sides' fitness and motivation, as well as their style.