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If the Victorian Government and the MCC can't fulfil their obligations to the contract, the AFL should seek retribution or demand the MCC subcontracts out the GF to another venue ie: MCC and Vic Gov pays Adelaide Oval or Optus to enable them to see out their obligations to the contact
 

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It has to be in Sydney if it isn't in Melbourne (unless COVID rises in Sydney again). I really don't see any reason to host it anywhere else.
The only thing Sydney has over Perth is that ANZ can hold 80k people, which is irrelevant when the NRL grand final doesn't even sell out every year despite much cheaper tickets than the AFL grand final, and they only managed to get 60k people to turn up to watch the Swans v Giants derby final in 2016. Financially the AFL could charge far more for tickets in Perth and guarantee a sellout. From a purely football viewpoint the stadium has a poor surface and there's a reason that there hasn't been an AFL game played there for 4 years. It's well known that it has a poor atmosphere, and being rectangular doesn't help the case either. WA is a football state first and foremost, has a more suitable stadium for the game, makes more sense financially and the AFL could then get their wish of a twilight GF on the east coast but the game could be played in the day which would likely make for a better spectacle.
 
You’d think come he’ll or high water it will be played at the MCG.

If not it should be Perth or Adelaide, two proper football states, isn’t that a no brainer?

The A/VFL won’t want to go down that path because it might actually do really well both on TV and at the ground, it will open up the discussion ‘why can’t we do this more often’?

They would rather stick it in a non football state because they simply won’t care too much either way.
 
The only thing Sydney has over Perth is that ANZ can hold 80k people, which is irrelevant when the NRL grand final doesn't even sell out every year despite much cheaper tickets than the AFL grand final, and they only managed to get 60k people to turn up to watch the Swans v Giants derby final in 2016. Financially the AFL could charge far more for tickets in Perth and guarantee a sellout. From a purely football viewpoint the stadium has a poor surface and there's a reason that there hasn't been an AFL game played there for 4 years. It's well known that it has a poor atmosphere, and being rectangular doesn't help the case either. WA is a football state first and foremost, has a more suitable stadium for the game, makes more sense financially and the AFL could then get their wish of a twilight GF on the east coast but the game could be played in the day which would likely make for a better spectacle.
Nailed it.
 
You’d think come he’ll or high water it will be played at the MCG.

If not it should be Perth or Adelaide, two proper football states, isn’t that a no brainer?

The A/VFL won’t want to go down that path because it might actually do really well both on TV and at the ground, it will open up the discussion ‘why can’t we do this more often’?

They would rather stick it in a non football state because they simply won’t care too much either way.
Both the Adelaide Oval and Optus are more aesthetically appealing and will hold sold out parochial crowds. Considering both states were the ones doing the heavy lifting with turning the game into an national competition, it would be disingenuous to blank them.

I would hold no grudge against Adelaide deserving the right. Can't say the same if it was NSW or QLD.
 
Both the Adelaide Oval and Optus are more aesthetically appealing and will hold sold out parochial crowds. Considering both states were the ones doing the heavy lifting with turning the game into an national competition, it would be disingenuous to blank them.

I would hold no grudge against Adelaide deserving the right. Can't say the same if it was NSW or QLD.

Same issue with prison bars. Don’t give them a sniff....

Again is the Super Bowl held at the same stadium each year?
 
Both the Adelaide Oval and Optus are more aesthetically appealing and will hold sold out parochial crowds. Considering both states were the ones doing the heavy lifting with turning the game into an national competition, it would be disingenuous to blank them.

I would hold no grudge against Adelaide deserving the right. Can't say the same if it was NSW or QLD.
Same issue with prison bars. Don’t give them a sniff....

Again is the Super Bowl held at the same stadium each year?

You get the sense that the AFL is not enamored with the SA and WA state governments hard stance on borders and quarantines, and because of that QLD/NSW are probably front runners to host the GF this year.

Ironically, the AFL may not have a choice. I could see the AFL implementing a bye between round 17 and finals and then Optus hosting a "final series" where all 8 teams hub it up in WA.

Optus might just Bradbury a Grand Final if things keep going the way they are!

 
You’d think come he’ll or high water it will be played at the MCG.

If not it should be Perth or Adelaide, two proper football states, isn’t that a no brainer?
If the restrictions are still in place in Victoria it absolutely should be in either Perth or Adelaide.
Realistically, the Grand Final should only be at the MCG every second year anyway and every other year be played in a state that has an AFL presence.
 
If the restrictions are still in place in Victoria it absolutely should be in either Perth or Adelaide.
Realistically, the Grand Final should only be at the MCG every second year anyway and every other year be played in a state that has an AFL presence.
Exactly. Victoria monopolising the GF is a joke. There’s been too much success interstate for the argument that it isn’t as popular to stand up anymore. Let’s face it, the majority of people attending are corporates, they’ll go anyway and anywhere. Then the members of respective clubs, then whoever can get a ticket. It’s pretty simple, if the GF was played in Adelaide between Brisbane and Geelong you’d still get a full crowd.
 

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Exactly. Victoria monopolising the GF is a joke. There’s been too much success interstate for the argument that it isn’t as popular to stand up anymore. Let’s face it, the majority of people attending are corporates, they’ll go anyway and anywhere. Then the members of respective clubs, then whoever can get a ticket. It’s pretty simple, if the GF was played in Adelaide between Brisbane and Geelong you’d still get a full crowd.


it would be a success for the 'people' wouldn't it, however the world runs on $ - so not much will ever change.
 
it would be a success for the 'people' wouldn't it, however the world runs on $ - so not much will ever change.
What I meant was that non Vic clubs have clearly proven their success in a national competition playing the GF at the G. From a revenue perspective it’ll still benefit the AFL if it’s played away from the G.
 
The only thing Sydney has over Perth is that ANZ can hold 80k people, which is irrelevant when the NRL grand final doesn't even sell out every year despite much cheaper tickets than the AFL grand final, and they only managed to get 60k people to turn up to watch the Swans v Giants derby final in 2016. Financially the AFL could charge far more for tickets in Perth and guarantee a sellout. From a purely football viewpoint the stadium has a poor surface and there's a reason that there hasn't been an AFL game played there for 4 years. It's well known that it has a poor atmosphere, and being rectangular doesn't help the case either. WA is a football state first and foremost, has a more suitable stadium for the game, makes more sense financially and the AFL could then get their wish of a twilight GF on the east coast but the game could be played in the day which would likely make for a better spectacle.

GF in Sydney allows the AFL to grow the game in the northern expansion markets - you know that will be the number 1 factor in determining where the GF is held.
 
You’d think come he’ll or high water it will be played at the MCG.

If not it should be Perth or Adelaide, two proper football states, isn’t that a no brainer?

The A/VFL won’t want to go down that path because it might actually do really well both on TV and at the ground, it will open up the discussion ‘why can’t we do this more often’?

They would rather stick it in a non football state because they simply won’t care too much either way.

Spot on, they will find a way to have it in Victoria. The Government will bend the rules somehow.

We have seen the V/AFL play the tradition card, then argue ground capacity and now sign some contract as a backup.

They know if they do it once it makes their argument weaker. Who knows it might be a better spectical in WA or SA.
 
What I meant was that non Vic clubs have clearly proven their success in a national competition playing the GF at the G. From a revenue perspective it’ll still benefit the AFL if it’s played away from the G.




It would be really interesting to see the financial figures for TV this year with the mix up of games/venues. I heard it was up 15% a couple of weeks back - would love to know the data on why that is, it's actuailly a good thing if they are smart and honest about it, it will give them some insights they would never have done otherwise good or bad.
 
Adelaide to host grand final 2020 - brilliant spectacle
Port vs Collingwood
Port in prison bar vs Collingwood in pink alternate strip 😃
 

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