Who's improved in 2025?

[cyrilsez]

Our whole defensive unit,starting to gel together better. TB most games in a season.

 

[indianhawks]

Jack Ginivan and Ward. Both of them have improved a lot.

 

[Dewnior]

Gunston
Ward
Impey
Amon
Morrison
Butler

 

[killerspud]

At the start of the season I thought the player who needed to step up the most was Ginnivan - I have been really amazed at his development, his ability to sacrifice elements of his natural game for the team and his unbelievable skill which has gone up a notch. I think he's been our most improved

 

[timhawx]

Im big fan of what Sam Butler has been able to do since coming back from his broken leg.
He looks like he's done some serious work on his strength and conditioning and his confidence around the contest has improved dramatically.

 

[Mushie]

This thread is quite dead.

Not one "new" best 22 player. And nothing at box hill to suggest their is.

Ramsden was just showing a bit when dumped back into zanelittle johns weird set ups.

If this thread isn't much more positive next season then ...........................................................

 

[TONYC3163]

This thread is quite dead.

Not one "new" best 22 player. And nothing at box hill to suggest their is.

Ramsden was just showing a bit when dumped back into zanelittle johns weird set ups.

If this thread isn't much more positive next season then ...........................................................

Just go away with your stupid negative takes.

 

[TheFourPillars]

This thread is quite dead.

Not one "new" best 22 player. And nothing at box hill to suggest their is.

Ramsden was just showing a bit when dumped back into zanelittle johns weird set ups.

If this thread isn't much more positive next season then ...........................................................

 

[Tanami]

Battle made AA in his first year with the Brown & Gold.
He is only going to get better next year and elevate himself into the Top 10 in the comp.
Believe.

Ward.

Chol.

Jai...Jai...Jai......has gone to the next level.
Carried the team on his back for most of the year.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Ginnivan (upon his return to the team), Chol and Ward are the obvious ones.

Butler, by virtue of getting back into the side and impacting games.

Maybe Morrison too prior to his injury. He had a very solid season.

Newcombe, Battle, Impey, Amon, Meek all had good seasons, but I'm not sure you could say they improved statistically. Not they they needed to, as they are all great players.

Watson had less marks, tackles and behind (therefore shots on goal) compared to last season. Along with essentially the same touches and the same goals per game. But, he came under much more attention, so I think that needs to be taken into consideration.

MacDonald and D'Ambrosio regressed in comparison to last season.

Both Sicily and Moore did too, but they had injury issues to battle through.

I expect Weddle and Dear to feature in this thread next season if they get a full season in.

 

[HairyO]

The 25, post-finals edition: AFL's best players, ranked by our experts

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We are the only team in the top 10 who didnt have a single player in the top 25. Swans managed 3 or 4 players I think.

So, given this is a list by "AFL Experts" ... aka "AFL web staff making minimum wage"... who from our team should be in the best 25?

Presumably the one who made AA and was barely beaten would be on the list. Newk ignored by the umpires as well, but does he? Does a 33 year old who kicked 70+ goals make the list?

I guess if we put players in, who comes out?

 

[earthworms]

The 25, post-finals edition: AFL's best players, ranked by our experts

Welcome back to The 25, where AFL.com.au's team of experts rank the best players in the game

www.afl.com.au

We are the only team in the top 10 who didnt have a single player in the top 25. Swans managed 3 or 4 players I think.

So, given this is a list by "AFL Experts" ... aka "AFL web staff making minimum wage"... who from our team should be in the best 25?

Presumably the one who made AA and was barely beaten would be on the list. Newk ignored by the umpires as well, but does he? Does a 33 year old who kicked 70+ goals make the list?

I guess if we put players in, who comes out?

Not one of Gunston, battle, Newcombe is a joke, how are there 4 sydney players better than all of them. How is gulden on this list??? He missed half the season!

 

[moginie]

The 25, post-finals edition: AFL's best players, ranked by our experts

Welcome back to The 25, where AFL.com.au's team of experts rank the best players in the game

www.afl.com.au

We are the only team in the top 10 who didnt have a single player in the top 25. Swans managed 3 or 4 players I think.

So, given this is a list by "AFL Experts" ... aka "AFL web staff making minimum wage"... who from our team should be in the best 25?

Presumably the one who made AA and was barely beaten would be on the list. Newk ignored by the umpires as well, but does he? Does a 33 year old who kicked 70+ goals make the list?

I guess if we put players in, who comes out?

Are these the same "AFL Experts" who unequivocally tipped us to miss the finals?

 

[threesixpio]

This might sound strange but in the games he has played Day looked like he was about to go to that next superstar level. Lets hope thats just on pause until 2026.

Not strange at all

 

[HedgeFund]

Morrison
Impey
Amon
Day
Hardwick
Meek
Chol
Gunston
Weddle
Battle
Ward
Maginness
Butler
Ginnavin
Barrass

The coaching staff

That’s why we ended up top 4

 

[Judd2Sewell]

We might need a who will improve in 2026 thread.

I think there will be several players looking at taking a jump in their development, or recapture last season's form, next season - Weddle, Watson, Ward, Mackenzie, MacDonald, Butler, Dear, Ginnivan, Lewis, D'Ambrosio.

 

[hardway]

We might need a who will improve in 2026 thread.

I think there will be several players looking at taking a jump in their development, or recapture last season's form, next season - Weddle, Watson, Ward, Mackenzie, MacDonald, Butler, Dear, Ginnivan, Lewis, D'Ambrosio.

If Weddle can start to dominate like he appears he could we are in the conversation alongside the lions and Suns.

 

[DearJai]

If Weddle can start to dominate like he appears he could we are in the conversation alongside the lions and Suns.

Even if the current best versions of Josh Ward, Wiz, Mass and Dear plus Lewis showed up every week through 2026 finals and season we'd still be in the conversation.

Throwing an improved version of Weddle and a fit Day into the mix with those guys almost guarantees it.

Land Merrett, and then it starts to get silly. Let alone if we can sneak Butters or someone else into things.

Good times coming if we get a good run with injury and land the couple of mids we need. Or if one or two from the VFL step up.

 

[HawthornHawk]

We might need a who will improve in 2026 thread.

I think there will be several players looking at taking a jump in their development, or recapture last season's form, next season - Weddle, Watson, Ward, Mackenzie, MacDonald, Butler, Dear, Ginnivan, Lewis, D'Ambrosio.

One who is not on your list that really needs to show something is McCabe. Hopefully he wont go down as another player we've matched a bid on who has actually hindered us in the draft, there were good players available at the picks we used to match for him.

 

[SSSSSS]

If we go by PCM voting from 2024 to 2025

Amon - Improved - 7th votes to 2nd (110 to 140)
Battle - N/A - But did win AA jacket
Barrass - N/A
Butler - Improved - No votes in 2024 - 27th in PCM (0 votes to 19 votes) - INJURED for most of 24/25
Chol - Improved - 17th votes to equal 10th (80 votes to 99)
Mass - Regressed - 10th in votes to 18th (101 votes to 73)
Day - Maintained - 18th votes to 23rd (77 votes to 36) - INJURED for most of 25
Dear - Maintained - 21st in votes to 25th (52 votes to 26) - INJURED for most of 25
Ginni - Improved - 9th in votes to equal 5th (107 votes to 120)
Gunston - Improved - 19th votes to Winner (69 votes to 157)
Hardwick - Improved - 5th to equal 5th but more votes (114 to 120)
Impey - Maintained - 3rd in votes to 8th (119 votes to 108)
Jiath - Improved - 30th in votes to 22nd (23 votes to 45)
Lewis - Maintained - 32nd in votes to 28th (3 votes to 17) - INJURED for most of 24/25
Croc - Regressed - 6th in votes to 16th (113 votes to 81)
Mackenzie - Regressed - 20th in votes to 26th (52 votes to 25)
Finn - Maintained - 24th in votes to 24th (28 votes to 31)
Meek - Improved - 14th in votes to equal 10th (92 votes to 99)
Moore - Maintained - 2nd in votes to 3rd (146 votes to 136)
Morrison - Maintained - 22nd in votes to 19th (38 votes to 72)
Nash - Maintained - 13th in votes to 15th (94 votes to 89)
Newk - Maintained - Winner to 4th (155 votes to 126)
Scrim - Regressed - 8th to 21st (108 votes to 46) - INJURED/Suspended for majority of 25
Sicily - Maintained - 12th in votes to 14th (96 votes to 90)
Ward - Improved - 25th to 14th (24 votes to 90)
Watson - Improved - 16th in votes to 9th (81 votes to 102)
Weddle - Maintained - 15th in votes to 17th (89 votes to 77) - INJURED in latter half of season 25
Worpel - Regressed - 4th in votes 20th (116 votes to 67)

 

[HedgeFund]

If we go by PCM voting from 2024 to 2025

Amon - Improved - 7th votes to 2nd (110 to 140)
Battle - N/A - But did win AA jacket
Barrass - N/A
Butler - Improved - No votes in 2024 - 27th in PCM (0 votes to 19 votes) - INJURED for most of 24/25
Chol - Improved - 17th votes to equal 10th (80 votes to 99)
Mass - Regressed - 10th in votes to 18th (101 votes to 73)
Day - Maintained - 18th votes to 23rd (77 votes to 36) - INJURED for most of 25
Dear - Maintained - 21st in votes to 25th (52 votes to 26) - INJURED for most of 25
Ginni - Improved - 9th in votes to equal 5th (107 votes to 120)
Gunston - Improved - 19th votes to Winner (69 votes to 157)
Hardwick - Improved - 5th to equal 5th but more votes (114 to 120)
Impey - Maintained - 3rd in votes to 8th (119 votes to 108)
Jiath - Improved - 30th in votes to 22nd (23 votes to 45)
Lewis - Maintained - 32nd in votes to 28th (3 votes to 17) - INJURED for most of 24/25
Croc - Regressed - 6th in votes to 16th (113 votes to 81)
Mackenzie - Regressed - 20th in votes to 26th (52 votes to 25)
Finn - Maintained - 24th in votes to 24th (28 votes to 31)
Meek - Improved - 14th in votes to equal 10th (92 votes to 99)
Moore - Maintained - 2nd in votes to 3rd (146 votes to 136)
Morrison - Maintained - 22nd in votes to 19th (38 votes to 72)
Nash - Maintained - 13th in votes to 15th (94 votes to 89)
Newk - Maintained - Winner to 4th (155 votes to 126)
Scrim - Regressed - 8th to 21st (108 votes to 46) - INJURED/Suspended for majority of 25
Sicily - Maintained - 12th in votes to 14th (96 votes to 90)
Ward - Improved - 25th to 14th (24 votes to 90)
Watson - Improved - 16th in votes to 9th (81 votes to 102)
Weddle - Maintained - 15th in votes to 17th (89 votes to 77) - INJURED in latter half of season 25
Worpel - Regressed - 4th in votes 20th (116 votes to 67)

How can a bloke who polled 38 votes in 2024 and then 72 votes in 2025 be simply a “maintained”?

Morrison polled nearly twice as many votes because he didn’t play VFL footy this year - didn’t he?

 

[HawthornHawk]

How can a bloke who polled 38 votes in 2024 and then 72 votes in 2025 be simply a “maintained”?

Morrison polled nearly twice as many votes because he didn’t play VFL footy this year - didn’t he?

Fair point, I thought Morrison was terrific this season and would often set the tone with his physicality which is remarkable for a guy of his size.

 

[SSSSSS]

How can a bloke who polled 38 votes in 2024 and then 72 votes in 2025 be simply a “maintained”?

Morrison polled nearly twice as many votes because he didn’t play VFL footy this year - didn’t he?

I was more going off placements and I didn't really go through it in a whole lot of depth.

I'm sure there are a more than a few inconsistencies.