Why Didnt We....

[FAITH]

Leave Petrenko on rookie list.
Use extra pick in national draft for Sibossado.
Then put Burton on long term injury list and promote Petrenko during the year?

 

[magtrev]

I guess because if Petrenko turns out to be a star and then Burton gets healthy we'd be left with a stupid Damien Pevril-like situation.

If the kid turns out to be a star, theres 14 other clubs who passed on him multiple times as well, so we won't be the only ones lamenting.

 

[NTRabbit]

Like magtrev said, it would be trying to have our cake and eat it too, and it would end up biting us badly on the arse.

 

[cmndstab]

Petrenko would have felt hard done by, that's for sure.

Besides, for all we know that's the reason Moss is still on the rookie list, perhaps he was in line for an upgrade?

 

[KUNG FU]

I was hoping this thread wouldn't be indulged. Retrospect! Petrenko was well deserving to be upgraded. The list lodgement was required long before the Rookie Draft, so I presume Rendell & Reid assumed that 3 picks out of that draft wouldn't be too much and/or that Sibo or whoever else would have been taken already. The real thread question is why we didn't redraft Pfeiffer! Or Martin, more realistically. But if the club doesn't rate them, then that is that.

I don't think Moss was quite in line for the upgrade, although his rookie spot seemed pretty safe from the second he was picked.

 

[-VC-]

Sibosado is already overrated.

 

[FAITH]

I was hoping this thread wouldn't be indulged. Retrospect! Petrenko was well deserving to be upgraded. The list lodgement was required long before the Rookie Draft, so I presume Rendell & Reid assumed that 3 picks out of that draft wouldn't be too much and/or that Sibo or whoever else would have been taken already. The real thread question is why we didn't redraft Pfeiffer! Or Martin, more realistically. But if the club doesn't rate them, then that is that.

I don't think Moss was quite in line for the upgrade, although his rookie spot seemed pretty safe from the second he was picked.

Pfeiffer = crap;
Martin apparently not agile enough.

 

[FAITH]

Sibosado is already overrated.

Apprently has a crappy attitude.
But one of the most rawly talented players in this draft.

 

[Campbell's Chunky]

Apprently has a crappy attitude.
But one of the most rawly talented players in this draft.

You made that up.

 

[WALL-e]

Sibosado is already overrated.

Bears a resemblence to Goodes and Franklin


Sibasado for PM!

 

[Pietmans]

As I understand it, a rookie listed player can be offered another year on the rookie list, but doesn't have to accept it. If he doesn't, he can re-enter the draft and would be available to any other club.

(Whilst the case is a little different since he was on the main list, Chris Schmidt was offered a rookie position with Brisbane and declined it to come home amd just hope he would be picked up.)

So Petrenko wouldn't have had to accept. As far as I know, the AFC could have offered the same monetary remuneration as he now gets, but it would have been a one year agreement instead of two. There is no suggestion that he had indicated he wouldn't accept another rookie term, but why should he when he knew he would get picked up by any number of clubs even in the strong 2008 draft. If he had opted for the draft we still would have taken Davis and McKernan and might have lost Petrenko by pick 44 or have lost Sloane as a result to pick him up again.

There is no doubt that he deserved an upgrade and I think the club did the honourable and safe thing here.

The issue is more that they could have taken Henderson at pick 41 (or whatever) in the rookie draft and Schmidt at 26. Rendell said himself that they knew both would be available 'down the order', so why didn't they just take the next best available player at pick 10. Alternatively, if it was such a close thing that Ed Curnow was delisted why not just pick him up again with the third pick? It's all very strange!

 

[Ticktak]

Rendell did mention that they thought a few more of the lads they liked would fall to the rookie draft but were picked up (late) in the ND.

But I hear what you are saying. In hindsight....

 

[hendo8888]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing
If we knew 2 months ago (when the first list lodgement was due) that we were going to get the 5 players we did in the draft (who we obviously rate above Sibosado) and that Sibosado would not be taken in the National Draft, but will be taken by our first Rookie pick (assuming we rated him above Ricky Henderson), then yes we may have gone down that path.
The fact is there was no way of knowing this is how it would have panned out, and Petrenko obviously did more than enough to deserve elevation last year.
Also if we did put Burton on the LTI, we still likely wouldn't be playing Petrenko until about mid-late season, which will be around the time that Burton i'd hope would be pushing for selection again. So this wouldn't work anyway.

 

[Crow-mo]

You made that up.

good spot

 

[Chillidog]

Perhaps they thought he earned the right to be paid more than the rookie wage?

 

[dplggr47]

There is no doubt that he deserved an upgrade and I think the club did the honourable and safe thing here.

correct Petrenko definitely deserved the upgrade. no point in risking his spot by offering a rookie contract instead.

The issue is more that they could have taken Henderson at pick 41 (or whatever) in the rookie draft and Schmidt at 26. Rendell said himself that they knew both would be available 'down the order', so why didn't they just take the next best available player at pick 10. Alternatively, if it was such a close thing that Ed Curnow was delisted why not just pick him up again with the third pick? It's all very strange!

Rendell also mentioned that out of the 5 players they had on their list for the RD, 3 of them were taken within the first 4 picks...so naturally, we got the other 2 with our first 2 picks. they were rated the next highest on our list.

 

[Thylacinus]

I was hoping this thread wouldn't be indulged. Retrospect! Petrenko was well deserving to be upgraded. The list lodgement was required long before the Rookie Draft, so I presume Rendell & Reid assumed that 3 picks out of that draft wouldn't be too much and/or that Sibo or whoever else would have been taken already. The real thread question is why we didn't redraft Pfeiffer! Or Martin, more realistically. But if the club doesn't rate them, then that is that.

I don't think Moss was quite in line for the upgrade, although his rookie spot seemed pretty safe from the second he was picked.

I thought Brodie Martin is still on the Adelaide rookie list. Is there another Martin, or have I misread something?

 

[macca23]

I thought Brodie Martin is still on the Adelaide rookie list. Is there another Martin, or have I misread something?

The reference is to Matthew Martin (West Adelaide) who Port took with pick 49 in the rookie draft.

 

[Thylacinus]

The reference is to Matthew Martin (West Adelaide) who Port took with pick 49 in the rookie draft.

Thanks

 

[FAITH]

You made that up.

Why would i make it up, because you didnt have a clue?