Not bad actually. From being utterly destroyed to about the richest country in the world (until they idiotically swallowed the Keynesian koolaid)
Too bad they suffer from so many Islamic terror attacks.
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Not bad actually. From being utterly destroyed to about the richest country in the world (until they idiotically swallowed the Keynesian koolaid)
Too bad they suffer from so many Islamic terror attacks.
And China would have been on the receiving end if the Japs had them. Not much of an argument there.
Your anti nationalism, pro supranational argument is so Swiss cheese its passe even for Guardianistas.
ISIL eschew nationalism because they want a caliphate. Big thumbs up eh?
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I wasn't comparing the situations, just putting it into context. You get more whingeing here over 500 refugees than you get over more than a million in other countries.
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Nationalism (like its sister, Fundamentalism) is a cancer that runs contrary to liberal (and libertarian) ideals.
The individual comes first, not the nation (or some God).
You cant even argue 'collective good' with nationalism (John Stuart Mill tried). While an element of collectivism is OK (and nationalism provides this glue) to assist with a common good (and I give Mill a nod here), when taken beyond a certain point it doesnt lead to a collective good. It always leads to war. The last three surges of nationalism in Europe lead to the Napoleonic wars, and WW's 1 and 2 respectively.
But hey, lets try it again and see how it works out eh?
Fundamentalism is just Nationalism in a different guise. Ultra conservative hogwash that places a social construct (God/ Nation) above the freedoms of the people.
Are you for real? That is absurd and stupid. Criticism shouldn't be refrained by geographical boundaries. Terrorism inspired by Islam is a global issue.
Islam is not the only religion gaining attention in Australia - the royal commission into sexual child abuse within this nation that has hammered the religious denominations I mentioned.
Jack - you measure hate in amounts? Paedophiles or Islamic terrorism acts.. hmm whats worse. Both are terrible.
That is disingenuous.
There has been Islamic acts of terror in this nation. There have reportedly been islamic inspired planned terrorism acts foiled by the intervention of the Federal Police.
The customs and practices of Islam is real enough, or has 'power' as you put it within the communities which it is practiced in the country.
Criticism of the acts inspired by Islam is shielded by political correctness and the blanket fallback of Islamophobia.
Atheists can be be labeled racist and Islamophobic by the left. The internet is littered with examples of this.
I've made the point I wanted to.
However an example I point to Sam Harris. As an academic and atheist Harris discusses, deconstructs and criticises Islam amongst other religions - not a race yet social justice warriors and the far left outright attack him. Same can be said about Richard Dawkins.
Sadly the out of control train of politically correct social justice warriors and even the victim mentality of modern feminism inspires this kind of leftist reactions. One example\/
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Enough of this rubbish.
You can, and do, say anything you want. If people believe you are being bigoted they have every right to point this out.
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Ive stated it already in the post you replied to.
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Be disingenuous if you like.
I provided a detailed response earlier. Try reading it without a hair-trigger response.
I provided a detailed response earlier. Try reading it without a hair-trigger response.
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Help me understand.
You want to be able to criticise islam without being labelled islamophobic?
Stop being a muppet. Liberalism relies on the state. Go and read the Wealth of Nations and stop annoying everyone with your quack economic nonsense.
Yeah, because the EU and the Iron Curtain is preferable to the nation state. FFS. First year Arts fail.
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I wasn't talking about economics. I was talking about theories of the State.
That you constantly get confused between economics and the relationship between the individual and the State amuses me no end.
There is a difference between [liberalism/ libertarianism] and capitalism you realise? As in theyre not even close to being the same thing.
Speaking of the Wealth of Nations and Adam Smith, Didn't he have something fairly strong to say about the nation state controlling everything? He was fairly opposed to nationalism from memory.
That's simply as a result of your ignorance. The two go hand in hand. Smith was opposed to mercantilism not nationalism.
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Where do they live? Do they have difficulty paying their rent? I feel a social justice cause coming on.
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The State controls the economic system as much as it does the Criminal justice system or Defence.
You constantly conflate economics with the State. They are not the same thing. A Fundamentalist State can employ a range of economic models for example, as can a Liberal State. I'm certainly not seeing why a Fundamentalist State has to be capitalist or socialist in its economic system, or why it would favor Keynes over Hayek (or vice versa) if it went the former.
From memory you prefer a pseudo-libertarian meritocracy as your State model. One espousing capitalist ideals.
You flip flop on this as much as you flip flop on support/ dissent re globalization as well, so its kind of hard to tell. From where I sit youre just a conservative who trumpets libertarianism when it suits you to do so, without really knowing what it is.
Nationalist governments tend towards things like imposing tariffs, nationalizing industry and so forth. Things Smith was very much against. He was concerned not just with private entities cornering the market and using unfair mercantile trade practices to hedge out competition and the 'invisible hand' but also (in fact especially) with State entities doing the same (because they have more power than private entities).
He advocated State entities tearing down or prohibiting cartels and monopolies from forming; the idea that State entities should become cartels or monopolies (or should interfere with the invisible hand via tariffs, nationalized industry, or even just propping up failing businesses) ran totally contrary to his central argument.
Go and read The Road to Serfdom and stop spamming the thread.
You really do talk nonsense. The Swiss and Norwegians have long been neutral, stayed out of the EU etc. That's nationalism and pretty successful nationalism
Smith was against MERCANTILISM!
This thread is about Islam, stop spamming it with your voodoo economic theories.
Silly, silly boy. Political independence = NOT being dictated to by the EU. Feel free to apologise.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/nationalist
noun
1A person who advocates political independence for a country
nationalism
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noun
noun: nationalism
patriotic feeling, principles, or efforts.
"an early consciousness of nationalism and pride"
synonyms: patriotism, patriotic sentiment, allegiance/loyalty to one's country, loyalism
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Heh. I'm discussing nationalism as in the theory of the State. You know.. as opposed to liberalism. As in the 'N' in the Nazi party.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
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I'm not sure that Summer-nats is the place to go looking for soul food, if that's what you mean....Piss-heads, drugs & hot-rods = Recipe for misogyny.
Any proof to back that up
No Miss Summernats is not proof
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