Will Gazza come back ?

[Monniehawk]

So you're saying people with a different opinion to you should be treated lesser?

No, I was just reiterating the silliness of those voicing "Ablett is not welcome" on behalf of other Cat fans. There was very little room to manoeuvre in those remarks.
So my comment was actually a parody!
But then, I guess you missed the irony!

 

[Scuderia]

I'd even welcome bomber back.

 

[vivien]

no, i don't think so..

 

[Connoisseur]

If we'd pay him 20 million for 5 years I think he would snap up the deal before you could say "I wasn't enjoying my football as much at the Gold Coast, needed a new scenery/challenge and what not".

But somehow I doubt the AFL would allow it thus he'll remain just where he is.

 

[vinum coupe]

He was in the Suns rooms at 1/2 time the previous night.Why is a players parent allowed in the rooms at 1/2 time ?
Would Zac Smith's parents be allowed in at 1/2 time ?

Maybe Sr was in the Geelong rooms trying to get Nathan a gig at Geelong.Remember Nath ? He's Werribees boom recruit who not suprisingly is injured and yet to play.

I didnt see any problem with it. I liked it.
Was joking with the staff etc.

The guy is a LEGEND.
Tomahawk..... not so much.

But I dont think I've seen him in there unless Gary was playing.

 

[vinum coupe]

no because has the balls to call it as it is

how can a coach preach to his players to make sacrifices etc, when one cog is after self adulation and is a $$$ chaser

he made his decision with consequences

and this same pork hat wanted $$$$ or he would not attend functions

once costa leaves the club the Mercenaries are in strife

And if anyone wanders why this team is great - it is because of the unselfish nature of one and all

you can love a player as much as you want but not all of us need to love judace

The best bit about this post is the change in font with mercenaries.
ha ha ha ha.

Wiki ?

 

[_Me_]

The best bit about this post is the change in font with mercenaries.
ha ha ha ha.

Wiki ?

Nope just some subtleness for the olds

 

[vinum coupe]

nice font. good work

 

[Nankervis brothers]

I'd love to see Ablett end his career home at the GFC, but unfortunately it will not happen. Here is why, IMO, the above scenarios suggesting he might return are flawed:

He will only be 31 when his contract at the GCS is up

In contemporary football that is ancient, especially considering he will have played 14 seasons at AFL level by that stage. Not accounting for injuries, he will have played close to 300 games (a whisker under 200 with Geelong, and whisker under 100 with the Suns). I would be very surprised if he has too much to offer by that stage. How many footballers in the contemporary era have much to offer at the 300 game mark, especially midfielders? I actually have doubts that he will manage to play out his 5 years at the Suns, at least nowhere near the level we have come to expect of him (complete gun that he is).

He can be remade as a forward, as Snr was, and spend his twilight years (in the football sense) there

Not really. The two share some similar football attributes, but they are also different. Snr had a freakish vertical leap, he was brilliant marking above his head, and he had intimidating physical strength and presence toward the end. Basically, all attributes of a great forward. As great as Jnr is, he doesn’t share these key characteristics. Some say he could go back to working as a small forward, but I doubt that too. That is young mans gig, not the job of a 31 year old whose reflexes and speed will be waning.

He will return for the success, something he is starved of at the Suns

Ablett will see finals football toward the end of his contract at the Suns. Hard to believe now, I know, but with the amount of concessions and sweet draft picks they have had, it would have to be the biggest drafting **** up in AFL history for the Suns not to be there or thereabouts in a three-four years. Geelong, by there own admission, is starting a transition period. It is going brilliantly, but the club itself has said that the fruits of ‘generation next’ will be harvested around 2016. In other words, later in Jnr’s contract, when the Suns are starting to peak, Geelong may be having some leaner years.

He will want to return to Geelong for nostalgic reasons, to finish his career where it started.

Ok, possible, I suppose. But let’s entertain the practicality of that. Let’s say he finds himself at 28 or 29, his football mortality approaching the closer he gets to 30, and says ‘I want to play out my career with the club that made me, and that I spent a decade at’ (or something to that romantic effect). He would still have a year, maybe two, left on his contract and those remaining years will have to be paid out. His contract is ****ing MASSIVE, so it will cost a fortune, or will mean compensation through offering a seriously good player such as Selwood, who the club would not entertain off loading anyway.


Like I said, the likelihood of him returning to Geelong is slim, at best. We are better focusing on realities – like the fact that he will end his career having played the vast majority of it at Geelong, where he won a Brownlow, two premierships, a carji-greeves, three Leigh Matthews Trophy’s, and various other awards. His best football will be remembered as having been with us, and our club played a massive role in making him the player he is. That’s history we can bank on.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

I'd even welcome bomber back.

Ha ha!

Whats funny about Thompson is that whenever he talks about the Geelong team ("his boys") his eyes glaze over and he almost waxes poetical. He was on 360 talking about the Hawthorn game. I don't know what the Essendon front office think about him the way he goes on about the Geelong side.

 

[Cool Cat]

Well said. Not that this debate needs to be reopened, but well said.

Well I don't want him back - does that mean I'm not welcome?

This is football, and it's us vs them. If that's too confrontational for the ablett sycophants then perhaps you should consider a more civilized sport? Sorry, over-reaction i know, but the comment endorsed above (should have directly quoted - too late now) really got up my goat.

 

[Cool Cat]

I honestly see him back at Geelong before his Suns Contract runs out and i'd swap anybody on our list bar Selwood and Christenson to get him back.[/QUOTE]

Seriously? You would trade out our LOYAL champions, who just delivered our third flag in five years, for a traitor. That's pretty screwed up. I wouldn't trade the lowliest rookiest on our list for him. How much is our integrity worth, guys?

 

[Cool Cat]

Fankly I don't see you post much at all unless you are bitching about the Ablett clan.

I am absolutely ok with you having an opinion about footy. I am just sick of your constant bitching about Abletts.

We know that you have an unhealthy obsession with them. Get over it.

Whilst I understand your frustration with Me to an extent, as cats fans I don't think any of us would be human if we didn't feel at least a little betrayed and let down by what gaj did. As such, I think Me's opinions on this subject are a legitimate reflection of some of what we have all felt throughout the sorry saga we were subjected too, and this is an entirely appropriate place for such feelings to be aired.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Wouldn't mind him in a forward pocket to be perfectly honest. The one thing that strikes me is just how ****ing sad the whole thing is. Now I know he left for the cash (who wouldn't have) but to see today's greatest player running around in the equal worst team is tragic for the game. Would be same emotion if pendles or buddy was there instead. This current Gold Coast team won't win a flag.

Meh. Tough luck I say. He knew it would be a long haul (or should have). He chose the money and then proceeded to garbage on about all his crap reasons like how 'hard it was for him in such a great Geelong side' in his column and how a premiership at the Suns would be more special than anything he achieved at Geelong. Is an amazing footballer for all I care he can ####en waste away in a side getting murdered for the rest of his career.

 

[bulletproof]

You should never, ever, ever go back, it always ends badly.

Ablett will have a fine career up there, it is a shame that much of his best footballing years will be played in meaningless matches in what is effectively division 2 of the AFL, but he will win plenty of individual awards and earn a huge stipend.

I would like more media people to press him harder on what he thinks of Geelong’s success without him and does he miss playing in the big games as I am genuinely interested to hear (or more to see the hurt in his eyes as he muffles a generic statement) what he thinks. I doubt he is the type to have regrets though.

What a fine career he had for Geelong, lets remember that, but at the same time toast the other GFC champions who have had even more successful ones than he.

 

[dazbroncos]

Few things.

I would have him back on following conditions.

He left for $$. Now he wants to win. Then you come back to win and play for the minimums. No big $$ contracts. He owes the club that.

Would be perfect in our 22 in a few years. I just can't see our team worse off with him in, but not at the disadvantage of the club.

It's tough as emotion gets involved a bit, but for little money it could work.

But it won't happen.

Go Catters

 

[mwt5150]

I honestly see him back at Geelong before his Suns Contract runs out and i'd swap anybody on our list bar Selwood and Christenson to get him back.

Seriously? You would trade out our LOYAL champions, who just delivered our third flag in five years, for a traitor. That's pretty screwed up. I wouldn't trade the lowliest rookiest on our list for him. How much is our integrity worth, guys?[/quote]

What he said. Each to their own but the above is completely disrespectful to the guys that hung in through all the bomber/Gaz circus BS and got the job done again when nobody thought they could.

Gaz made his bed.

 

[Monniehawk]

Seriously? You would trade out our LOYAL champions, who just delivered our third flag in five years, for a traitor. That's pretty screwed up. I wouldn't trade the lowliest rookiest on our list for him. How much is our integrity worth, guys?

All that begs the question of whether loyalty is a valid term in the context you use it.
I think 'loyalty' is more circumstantial. If the planets are so aligned that you don't have to make a move, then all is well.
Life is rarely like that.
Moons admitted that he wanted to leave us, but circumstances forced him to stay. Is he a traitor?
Of the blokes we traded - Blake, King, Callan, and so on - were they entitled to loyalty from us or did circumstances dictate their moves?
There are two often competing interests in trading, the player and the club. Each should have equal call on what is best for themselves.
You can't have loyalty all one way.

 

[muttweed]

All that begs the question of whether loyalty is a valid term in the context you use it.
I think 'loyalty' is more circumstantial. If the planets are so aligned that you don't have to make a move, then all is well.
Life is rarely like that.
Moons admitted that he wanted to leave us, but circumstances forced him to stay. Is he a traitor?

Mooney had achieved nothing at that point in time. 2006 was one of the years he was suspended the most, the club had taken a week's wages away from him, the club was shit at the time, everyone was calling for Bomber's head and the pain of 2005 probably hit Mooney the hardest. The club was chaotic and NO ONE thought we'd become what we are now. Why would he stay?

I wouldn't blame a player for leaving a club like Port behind for greener pastures. I wouldn't call them a traitor, because they obviously never loved the club if they thought about leaving in the first place.

Gazza established a huge connection with everything to do with the club and its supporters. He wasn't just ANY player. He was the golden boy and he knew it. He was our best player. He supported Geelong as a kid, his own dad played for Geelong. Yet this huge connection and involvement and love for the club never stopped him from turning around for some cash. That makes him a traitor.

Of the blokes we traded - Blake, King, Callan, and so on - were they entitled to loyalty from us or did circumstances dictate their moves?

The Cats staff did what was best for the CLUB. Not for one player, unlike Ablett and other players who leave for $$$, who only left for themselves.

There are two often competing interests in trading, the player and the club. Each should have equal call on what is best for themselves.
You can't have loyalty all one way.

What could possibly be bad about playing in the best era in AFL history? If he'd rather have money than that, I don't know what the hell he's playing FOOTY for.

 

[marshhhhh]

Well I don't want him back - does that mean I'm not welcome?

This is football, and it's us vs them. If that's too confrontational for the ablett sycophants then perhaps you should consider a more civilized sport? Sorry, over-reaction i know, but the comment endorsed above (should have directly quoted - too late now) really got up my goat.

Er, I never said anybody that doesn't want Ablett back isn't welcome.
Just because I am still a fan of his in no way means anybody else has to share the same opinion.

Just to clear up any confusion, I agree with the bold parts of this post:

Get over it you guys!
Ablett was a champion at KP and is still a champion.
He is "in our DNA". He is always welcome back.

And those who don't want him, aren't!

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I honestly see him back at Geelong before his Suns Contract runs out and i'd swap anybody on our list bar Selwood and Christenson to get him back.

Seriously? You would trade out our LOYAL champions, who just delivered our third flag in five years, for a traitor. That's pretty screwed up. I wouldn't trade the lowliest rookiest on our list for him. How much is our integrity worth, guys?

Did you like Ottens?

Did you cheer for Ottens when he played for Geelong?


I thought so.

 

[Grizzly_82]

He can stay up there for all I care, we all see how greedy and money hungry is. For a captain he sure doesn't spend a lot of time with his team, always hearing he out at grand prix and other "events" .

Very very happy he didn't stay here let alone became capt.

 

[Bundy_28]

Geelong don't need the human testicle'. Are and have been the better side without him and will continue to do so.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Geelong don't need the human testicle'. Are and have been the better side without him and will continue to do so.

2 flags with him
1 without him

Just saying.

 

[marshhhhh]

Geelong don't need the human testicle'. Are and have been the better side without him and will continue to do so.

Yeh big call there. Don't let bitterness cloud your judgement.