Worst 2 Draft Selections Ever?

[Hello Newman!]

How can you say whoops to Roughead already?

Yeah, bad call. Will be a gun given time

 

[Broady Poker Tour]

Richmond's history of Number 1 draft picks.

Richard Lounder number 1 draft pick in the 1987 draft. He played 4 games

Richmond again in 1989 drafted Anthony Banik number 1 pick (49 games?)

Hopefully they got Deledio right.

Gardiner was a poor choice for number 1 pick, but in the same draft Essendon picked up Heffernan (pick 2) and Daniel McAllister (pick 5). What a waste of picks

 

[Ron The Bear]

Richmond's history of Number 1 draft picks.

Richard Lounder number 1 draft pick in the 1987 draft. He played 4 games

Richmond again in 1989 drafted Anthony Banik number 1 pick (49 games?)

Hopefully they got Deledio right.

Gardiner was a poor choice for number 1 pick, but in the same draft Essendon picked up Heffernan (pick 2) and Daniel McAllister (pick 5). What a waste of picks

Gardiner at his peak was arguably the best ruckman in the comp, circa 2003.

The early years of the draft were notoriously hit-and-miss and included several top-10 picks who never even left their home states, let alone played a handful of games. The introduction of the draft camp has brought the drafting process closer to being a science.

 

[thebigboy]

One vote has to go to Dan McAllister....he was crap X 10

 

[quidy]

Both are outstanding players.

I think he was saying they are bad picks because WCE got Judd at pick 3 - In Hein site they would have picked Judd.

 

[dan warna]

luke livingstone,

 

[Polo_14]

You've got to be kidding.

Yes, he probably is a better set shot at goal than Judd, but nearly everyone is, kicking on the run to a moving target, Id back Judd every time over Deledio.

I watched Deledio's game against West Coast and both his efforts against Hawthorn and Carlton. He is a good kick, but lacks the ability to put the ball to advantage and often puts it on the boot laces of a leading foward.

Pav for AA Ass Licker

 

[Gary Junior]

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have a winner.

At pick no. 1 ... Stephen Hooper.

No? What do you mean you don't remember that man mountain who dominated the ruck for Geelong for so many years?

Well done Catters ... well done.

 

[NeilElvis]

Joel Reynolds... the next pick was Daniel Kerr!

As a Saints man, we have had a number of brain explosions on draft day.

Michael Frost
David Strooper
Chris Hemley
Caydn Beetham

The list goes on...

Check out www.thedrafter.net for a summary of drafts.

 

[cousins_hodge]

1 Dan wells
2 Adam Yze

 

[Johnson#26]

Roachy (Danny) for mine, although a hip injury crippled him.

Billy Morrison stings.

 

[Redline]

the top 3 in 98 (headland, longmuir and fosdike) werent that good for top 3 and considering jude bolton went at 8

Fosdike???? Has played in a premiership and almost won the Norm Smith and a regualr in a top four team. Not that bad I'd say.

 

[Smell The Glove]

Let's see, who kicked more goals at Carlton than Pettifer this year? Well there's Fevola of course, and, um, and, um...

I won't embarrass you further by asking the same question about marks.

Livingstone at #4, Vance at #6 and Sporn at #11 is a far more extravagant trifecta.

Was referring to their names, numb nuts. And yeah Vance, Livingstnon and Sporn are crap, so what? Every Carlton supporter acknowledges that.

 

[Bollox]

The prize for #1 draft pick with a long but amazingly unspectacular career goes to

Mr D Bamford from Perth.

Bamfeld Banfiled...its something like that i think....maybe banfield...no idea.
The definition of a good average player.

 

[TheRealComptroller]

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have a winner.

At pick no. 1 ... Stephen Hooper.

No? What do you mean you don't remember that man mountain who dominated the ruck for Geelong for so many years?

Well done Catters ... well done.

This is not as bad as it seems to be.

The draft was not really as important then as it is now. The proportion of players that were available to teams through the draft was substantially less. Geelong probably would have taken Glen Jakovich as he was the most highly rated junior in the country at the time but West Coast still was able to take him and Mitchell White before the draft. Also Victorian teams still had their metropolitan zones and so there weren't that many great players still available in the draft; only Victorian country players, Tasmanians, SANFL players (many were still staying in Adelaide), and clubs were only allowed one WAFL player, and that was one WCE hadn't already taken. Sydney also had first look at ACT/NSW players and Brisbane had first choice on Queenslanders as late as 1994 with Akermanis.

Geelong would not have been able to attain this #1 pick from Brisbane if the pick was that highly valued. IIRC Geelong gave up Shane Hamilton and Damien Bourke for this pick. Two players who hardly dominated at the Bears.

The first "real" draft was 1992 (even after that there were still obstacles like the father/son and other concessions given to Freo and Port on their entry to the competition and the odd QLD and NSW zone selection) as the metropolitan zones had been eliminated, the SANFL players' reluctance to leave was less strong owing I suppose to the decline in the SANFL's standing in Adelaide after the AFL entry of the Crows in 1991.

Also Geelong selecting Hooper wasn't that inept in light of other players taken that year. Other top 5 picks in the 1990 draft include James Cook and Jason McCartney; hardly Peter Hudson and Wayne Carey, they each would end playing at three different teams. James Hird was taken at 79 but even Essendon hadn't been that keen to get him as they took many other players before him.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Was referring to their names, numb nuts. And yeah Vance, Livingstnon and Sporn are crap, so what? Every Carlton supporter acknowledges that.

Didn't realise we had a new King of Comedy since Graham Kennedy departed - call Fiora by his alias (Fiona) and I might have caught the pun. Your cullions would be a little disinterested too after the workout your girlfriend gave mine.

 

[murph#3]

Let's see, who kicked more goals at Carlton than Pettifer this year? Well there's Fevola of course, and, um, and, um...

I won't embarrass you further by asking the same question about marks.

Livingstone at #4, Vance at #6 and Sporn at #11 is a far more extravagant trifecta.

fev kicked the most goals in the league and lance was 7th on most marks. hardly anything to be embarrased about, you could even thrown in disposals where we have heath scotland who was 2nd.

just goes to show how stats are so overrated and your point is irrelevant. whippersniper wasnt even having a go at the players themselves, he was simply referring to their names.

 

[Ron The Bear]

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whippersniper wasnt even having a go at the players themselves, he was simply referring to their names.

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No, no, Richmonds biggest dud pick ever (apart from Banik) was a little chap called FIORA
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Yes, I'm sure Fiora answers the phone with "Hello, dud speaking."

 

[Crow-mo]

Nope, don't write off Polak at all

McDougall has had a shocking injury run, which has reall hampered his development. I think he, and Polak, could both become fair players. Sampi at this stage has shown more than either of them, just hasn't done it consitently.

my god, talk about optimistic to the point of delusion. McDougall is lucky to still be on an AFL list.

you're either biased or a very poor judge.

 

[Crow-mo]

Let me clarify.Ken McGregor is a good player.My intention was not to denigrate Kenny.I like having him in my side,but let's be honest,he's no Matthew Pavlich.At the time he was chosen as a 17 yr old,there was genuine surprise in SA that he was chosen ahead of Pavlich.Even at 17 yrs of age,Pavlich was a gun and was playing in Woodville/West torrens league side.That's all I'm saying,but I admit my post was pretty average in regard to saying it was embarrassing.I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but Pavlich was the better player.Does that make sense?

at the time, when you were 12?

you're making that up. At the time it was between the 2 players, and they were both considered good prospects.

there was no genuine surprise or any such thing. Pavlich developed heavily the following year.

 

[Crow-mo]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion,but as I said,my opinion was and still is that he was an average footballer at best.Freo obviously saw him as their CHF,but the guy didn't have the footy smarts to play a key position.As I say,I saw alot of him before he got drafted and was never impressed.

if that is true - and I am not sure It is - then you are a terrible judge.

Waterhouse looked like he could be anything in 1995. and frankly, he showed plenty of ability for Freo too.

 

[Crow-mo]

I got to see alot of Waterhouse before he got drafted,when he played for the Port Magpies,and I have to say alot of people,including myself,were very surprised that he not only got drafted at No 1,but that he got drafted at all.He was an overrated hack,and I can't actually remember him ever playing a half decent game for Freo.Let's also remember that Freo gave up Andrew Mcleod for,wait for it,Chris Groom.Surely the most diabolical decision ever.Not that the Crows haven't made bad decisions.We overlooked Matthew Pavlich for Ken McGregor

you again?
you've got plenty of opinions and no clue.

stop being such a grade A moron, talking about players you have no idea about.

Chris Groom was a gun prospect at the time of that trade, so much so we got an extra draft pick as well. Cornsey himself says, Groom was so good he wouldn't have sanctioned the trade.

as I said I don't know if you are genuinely a fool, or if you are just regurgitating what you have heard others say before.

 

[Crow-mo]

heres the thing, mcdougall was one of the best young players in AUS at the time he was drafted. he won most medals coming his way, dunno what happened to him now, plus the 2000 draft wasnt that great anyway. sampi i disagree with, i think he has a lot of potential to become a great small forward. his crumbing skills are exceptional but needs to lose some weight and gain consistency. ive seen a lot worse players than sampi up there.

both duds, at least Sampi looks like he'll make a career for himself though.

 

[Thrawn]

This man is one of them:

At least Livingston was servicable on Neitz and on Lloyd on one occassion.

 

[Crow-mo]

Hawthorn had a choice between Croad and Goodes. Hodge and Judd.

IMAGINE

how old are you?

Croad and Goodes were never comporable choices. Goodes was a FF at the time, and one with big question marks over whether he could make the step up to teh next level. that's why he went 40 something.

Hawthorn at the time, were expected to take Kris Massie.

goodes was never in the picture for even a first round pick.