Would this trade work for O'Keefe??

[Roy Park Blues]

Carlton swap pick 6 and their 3rd round for O'Keefe and Sydneys Pick 11

Therefore:

Out: Pick 6 and 37?

In: Okeefe and Pick 11

Thoughts?

 

[celtic_pride]

Pass ... People overrate O'Keefe great, not worth a 1st draft pick and won't be part of Carlton's next premiership side (which would be in about 4 or 5 years IMHO)

I'm sick of this obsession with recycled hacks, Hawthorn and Geelong didn't build their premiership sides by recycling players from other sides ...

 

[Roy Park Blues]

How does Stuart Dew, Steven Giham, Brett Guerrra sound??

All of the above arnt close to what O'Keefe can achieve on the ground?

 

[Chism]

Carlton swap pick 6 and their 3rd round for O'Keefe and Sydneys Pick 11

Therefore:

Out: Pick 6 and 37?

In: Okeefe and Pick 11

Thoughts?

Not bad i would rather Fisher and pick 37 even another player thrown in like Bentick or something , for O`Keefe.

 

[Roy Park Blues]

Not bad i would rather Fisher and pick 37 even another player thrown in like Bentick or something , for O`Keefe.

Sounds even better!!

 

[Chism]

Pass ... People overrate O'Keefe great, not worth a 1st draft pick and won't be part of Carlton's next premiership side (which would be in about 4 or 5 years IMHO)

I'm sick of this obsession with recycled hacks, Hawthorn and Geelong didn't build their premiership sides by recycling bums from other sides ...

OMG he has talent and is exactly what we need to release pressure off fev. Go and watch the replay of when we played Sydney this year and the game he had. Hes a gun and has 3 good years in him at the least.

 

[celtic_pride]

we won't a flag within 3 years, so recruiting him is pointless ..

 

[celtic_pride]

we won't a flag within 3 years, so recruiting him is pointless ..

BTW Hawks had the luxury of recruiting the likes of Daw and Gurerra etc, cause their list is basically top-heavy with youth and top-line players, and they were the icing on the cake ...

Carlton's list is still developing, and the more quality kids we draft and bring in the better ...

The only reason you would recruit someone like O'Keefe is if he came cheaply and for his finals experience and leadership ..

Out of all the dozens of recycled players Pagan brought into Carlton, only 2 actually worked out to be gems (Scotland and Stevens) ...
Moving foward we have to find more quality young players, to weed out the likes of Russell and Bentick, whom are not going to win this club a premiership.

 

[jd2006]

Pass ... People overrate O'Keefe great, not worth a 1st draft pick and won't be part of Carlton's next premiership side (which would be in about 4 or 5 years IMHO)

I'm sick of this obsession with recycled hacks, Hawthorn and Geelong didn't build their premiership sides by recycling players from other sides ...

Hawthorn - Guerra, Croad, Sewell, Gilham,
Geelong - Harley, Ottens
Carlton - Judd, Cloke, Scotland, Stevens, Hadley, Bannister, (O'Keefe??)

so we would have maybe 3 more recycled players but the quality of our ones are superior to those of Hawthorn. And either way your point makes no sense because we would be also getting a recycled player in Warnock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Guerra

 

[Marc Shmurf 3]

Not bad i would rather Fisher and pick 37 even another player thrown in like Bentick or something , for O`Keefe.

I cant stand these types of trades that people put up...

Sure they would be great for us

BUT we finished 11th... SYDNEY finished 7/8th.. why would they want players that couldn't grab a spot in our side, or are below average players...

You need to trade quality to get quality...

In the OP case that trade would do me just fine

Carlton in : O'Keefe & pick 11
Out: pick 6 & 37

 

[freocuz]

I cant stand these types of trades that people put up...

Sure they would be great for us

BUT we finished 11th... SYDNEY finished 7/8th.. why would they want players that could grab a spot in our side, or are below average players...

You need to trade quality to get quality...

In the OP case that trade would do me just fine

Carlton in : O'Keefe & pick 11
Out: pick 6 & 37

Would you then hand pick 11 over for Warnock? Nett effect:

In: O'Keefe & Warnock
Out: Pick 6 & 37.

Hypothetically, of course.

 

[blue_boys]

Carlton swap pick 6 and their 3rd round for O'Keefe and Sydneys Pick 11

Therefore:

Out: Pick 6 and 37?

In: Okeefe and Pick 11

Thoughts?

I'd take that trade.... we still get a first round pick and get an absolute gun player who is going to be as good as he is now for at least 3-4 years, maybe longer as he has never really been injured so his body is in very good condition and could play for another 5 years!!!

For people that say he will not be around for our next attempt at a premiership, he is the same age as Fev, so if we keep Fev why not get ROK???

We should be doing everything to get ROK at the club as he is one of the best players in the league for the position that we are after

 

[blue_boys]

Would you then hand pick 11 over for Warnock? Nett effect:

In: O'Keefe & Warnock
Out: Pick 6 & 37.

Hypothetically, of course.

NO... we will get Warnock for pick 24 as Freo have no bargining power as he is out of contract

There maybe a slight change of a later pick, like our 3rd or 4th round pick for theirs to push the trade over the line.....

 

[Marc Shmurf 3]

Would you then hand pick 11 over for Warnock? Nett effect:

In: O'Keefe & Warnock
Out: Pick 6 & 37.

Hypothetically, of course.

unfortunately for Freo he is un-contracted and is not worth pick 11. So i would have to say no... I think pick 24 for Warnock is more than enough TBH

 

[freocuz]

NO... we will get Warnock for pick 24 as Freo have no bargining power as he is out of contract

There maybe a slight change of a later pick, like our 3rd or 4th round pick for theirs to push the trade over the line.....

So is O'Keefe, so why not offer pick 24 for him? Why do Sydney have bargaining power, but Freo don't?

 

[BlueYoss]

Not bad i would rather Fisher and pick 37 even another player thrown in like Bentick or something , for O`Keefe.

Are you trying to say that Fisher = pick #6?!?!

So is O'Keefe, so why not offer pick 24 for him? Why do Sydney have bargaining power, but Freo don't?

Because reputation goes a long way when to comes to trading and Sydney don't have a propensity to be bent over in trade week

 

[Athomas]

Are you trying to say that Fisher = pick #6?!?!

No because he was saying instead of trading 6 and getting 12, we trade Fisher.

 

[Optus Penguin]

So is O'Keefe, so why not offer pick 24 for him? Why do Sydney have bargaining power, but Freo don't?

Because ROK hasn't named one club, heard he named 3 preffered clubs thats why they do and you don't.

 

[freocuz]

Because ROK hasn't named one club, heard he named 3 preffered clubs thats why they do and you don't.

If you can find me a link to Warnock's prefered club as announced by Warnock, his manager or Fremantle FC, I'll accept the logic.

 

[Chism]

No because he was saying instead of trading 6 and getting 12, we trade Fisher.

Thankyou! Thats what i was getting at!! Gee you go offline for 10 mins and all hell breaks loose!!! LOL

 

[blue_boys]

So is O'Keefe, so why not offer pick 24 for him? Why do Sydney have bargaining power, but Freo don't?

Well if O'Keefe nominates us then Sydney will not have bargaining power and we could get him for under market value, like Juddy

 

[Keele]

Carlton swap pick 6 and their 3rd round for O'Keefe and Sydneys Pick 11

Therefore:

Out: Pick 6 and 37?

In: Okeefe and Pick 11

Thoughts?

Since when have Sydney had pick 11?

 

[BlueYoss]

If you can find me a link to Warnock's prefered club as announced by Warnock, his manager or Fremantle FC, I'll accept the logic.

So far it was reported a few weeks back by the ever accurate Greg Denham, who included a quote from Swann on why Warnock may have nominated Carlton, but never any confirmation from Swanny that Warnock had actually nominated Carlton.

This week an apparently as accurate one eyed Weagles supporting reporter also reported it, so on that score, I will concede that it is very far from being confirmed.

However, ericpascoe on our board usually has very accurate mail and this week his mail was that the deal has been done. In light on the fact that Carlton publicly made it clear that we were offering pick 24 and that pick 6 was off the table, I'd put my money on us getting him for pick 24 and possibly a player, and I wouldn't go spending that pick 6 just yet if I were you

 

[celtic_pride]

Pick 6 for a 28 year old is simply not worth it at all ...

If we want to try get him, get him in the PSD, pick 24 is for Warnock (and at his age and ability, I would hardly really call him 'recycled) and just keep building with draft picks at kids ...

Frankly we need another tall key foward, not recruit ROK in basically a similar role to what Brad Fisher does now (having said that ROK is a much better player then Fisher)

Also ROK would want a decent contract, and frankly he's more likely to get more money elsewhere (IE Essendon)

We should not 'TRADE' early draft picks on players over 24/25 years of age anymore under any cirumstances

 

[Andypooh23]

Carlton swap pick 6 and their 3rd round for O'Keefe and Sydneys Pick 11

Therefore:

Out: Pick 6 and 37?

In: Okeefe and Pick 11

Thoughts?

Our 3rd Rounder is 40 not 37.