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No way, so we basically lose Lobbe for nothing? He got us to within a kick of a GF last year...NO WAY!
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At least Rocket Eade knows who the boss is there now.
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Lots on here seem to be overrating the durability of our talls. It's a massive gamble to think we will not have to regularly call on a back up ruck even if we go with a one ruck set up.
Dixon has ongoing ankle issues, and I'd guess we'd be hoping for 15-20 games from him.
Ryder has an Achilles injury and the unknown WADA factor.
Trengove ain't exactly a picture of durability, and seems to feature less as a second ruck.
Schulz will be managed more and more - probably aiming at a 15 game ceiling.
Westhoff is the only one without any ongoing injury concerns.
There are a huge amount of variables to gamble with here. Not to mention the fact every seems to have written off Lobbe in terms of any improvement, despite the fact he was much better than serviceable in 2014, and isn't particularly old in ruck terms.
Dixon has ongoing ankle issues, and I'd guess we'd be hoping for 15-20 games from him.
Ryder has an Achilles injury and the unknown WADA factor.
Trengove ain't exactly a picture of durability, and seems to feature less as a second ruck.
Schulz will be managed more and more - probably aiming at a 15 game ceiling.
Westhoff is the only one without any ongoing injury concerns.
There are a huge amount of variables to gamble with here. Not to mention the fact every seems to have written off Lobbe in terms of any improvement, despite the fact he was much better than serviceable in 2014, and isn't particularly old in ruck terms.
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Since when has being within a kick of a gf been good enough?
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Monfries and second rounder? I'd do it. I think Gus'll find himself on the outskirts of the 22 next year anyway.
Lobbe won't be traded out without the club bringing in some backup. They wouldn't risk a shot at the flag next year by not having insurance for if Ryder is banned. So everyone that is worried about Lobbe being traded should just have faith that the club will do its due diligence before trading him.
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No..WADA hanging over his head. I can only imagine it being Moore or Young.
Lol
It is not , and should not be generally accepted Toumpas is worth a second. Maybe a late second. I wouldn't part with young for him. I would be hesitant to trade our second pick for him. Moore is about right.
Would have to be one of Lycett, Lobb or Downie.
Watching a few West Coast games towards the end of last year Lycett played the second ruck/forward role very well. Slotted 2-3 goals in quite a few games towards the end of the season and was considered above Sinclair (who played in the GF this year). Unfortunately this year he injured his knee and hasn't been able to force himself back in. Would definitely pursue him if Lobbe goes out.
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While I would take pick 12 and run, we are all assuming that Schulz and Dixon all get through the majority of the year. If one gets injured or out of form, Ryder up forward would help enormously. If Ryder gets seriously injured as well we can basically say goodbye to our premiership chances next year and everyone would be saying what a disaster it was to trade Lobbe.
Even if pick 12 is on the table I don't think Ken and Co would do it (even though I probably would)
Even if pick 12 is on the table I don't think Ken and Co would do it (even though I probably would)
Tell that to the Bulldogs.
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Leuenberger going to Essendon, Giles is cooked there.
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Geez I hope this is true. If we could extract some value out of the aging Monfries, an absolutely disposable player, that'd be a huge win.
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I really don't foresee any issues playing 8 talls.
Schulz, Dixon, Westhoff, Ryder & Lobbe can all play in the same 22. It's doubtful Westhoff will spend any decent amount of time in our F50 anyway. Also, didn't Sydney run with a similar structure? A new quadrangle of doom with talented players this time around. We'll be bloody hard to match up on especially given the diversity of players we'll have up forward at any given time during a game.
Schulz, Dixon, Westhoff, Ryder & Lobbe can all play in the same 22. It's doubtful Westhoff will spend any decent amount of time in our F50 anyway. Also, didn't Sydney run with a similar structure? A new quadrangle of doom with talented players this time around. We'll be bloody hard to match up on especially given the diversity of players we'll have up forward at any given time during a game.
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Just came up with some potential trades if Lobbe does leave for Richmond's pick 12:
pick 10 for Dixon.
Pick 12 and pick 65 for Redden and pick 21.
Pick 29, 2016 second pick and O'Shea for Menzel.
Moore and pick 47 for Toumpas.
Overall:
Out: 10, Lobbe, 12, 65, 29, ?, O'Shea, Moore and 47.
In: Dixon, Redden, 21, Menzel, Toumpas.
Pick 21 could be used on a player such as Ah Chee, Burton, Milera, Collins, Clarke or Oliver.
If we were to acquire these players we would be one of the favorites for the flag next year.
What they would bring to the team:
- Inside grunt from Redden.
- Power forward in Dixon.
- Silky forward to release Wingard up the ground more often.
- Toumpas as outside depth with the potential to be a regular in the team.
pick 10 for Dixon.
Pick 12 and pick 65 for Redden and pick 21.
Pick 29, 2016 second pick and O'Shea for Menzel.
Moore and pick 47 for Toumpas.
Overall:
Out: 10, Lobbe, 12, 65, 29, ?, O'Shea, Moore and 47.
In: Dixon, Redden, 21, Menzel, Toumpas.
Pick 21 could be used on a player such as Ah Chee, Burton, Milera, Collins, Clarke or Oliver.
If we were to acquire these players we would be one of the favorites for the flag next year.
What they would bring to the team:
- Inside grunt from Redden.
- Power forward in Dixon.
- Silky forward to release Wingard up the ground more often.
- Toumpas as outside depth with the potential to be a regular in the team.
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Agree. Keep 29 and O'Shea with next year's second will do it. That leaves 21 and 29 to be used along with some real good players coming in
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Don't think Carlton would accept a pick around 35 and O'Shea.
Menzel has a big ceiling, would love to get him, but don't think they will accept pick 35 and O'Shea.
Menzel has a big ceiling, would love to get him, but don't think they will accept pick 35 and O'Shea.
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Why Essendon picked Giles, one of football's great mysteries. They chose Shaun Mckernan as a standalone ruck over him FFS
