Half Term Tony. Is it a possibility?

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It isn't hard for Labor to negotiate with The Greens. They only have too make their policies more extreme.

Gillard had to negotiate with Windsor and Oakeshott. Both of whom had strong right wing leanings.

The independents in the Senate right now are mostly right leaning so Abbott should not be having the trouble he is having getting the votes.
 

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Julia Gillard managed to form government with right wing independents following a hung Parliament. She only had to negotiate with one Greens MP in the House of Representatives.

It's safe to say that she made a better PM than Tony Abbott thus far - although it certainly isn't saying much.
 
Gillard was just as bad as Abbott and you don't have to open your eyes to see that. :rolleyes:
You mean eyes wide shut?
She had to negotiate and compromise most of the major policies and did it well before putting to the vote.
Keep waving the blue flag though it makes things amusing and they need every one of you.
 
Gillard had to negotiate with Windsor and Oakeshott. Both of whom had strong right wing leanings.

The independents in the Senate right now are mostly right leaning so Abbott should not be having the trouble he is having getting the votes.
Come on Runvs. Palmer is playing the socialist card big time. He also has a big grudge against the Libs for something Newman allegedly did/didn't do in regards to building a rail line to his coal mine up North.
 
Come on Runvs. Palmer is playing the socialist card big time. He also has a big grudge against the Libs for something Newman allegedly did/didn't do in regards to building a rail line to his coal mine up North.

If you think Clive Palmer and his party is 'playing the socialist card' or is in any way on the left in politics, you have a seriously flawed understanding of our political parties.
 
If you think Clive Palmer and his party is 'playing the socialist card' or is in any way on the left in politics, you have a seriously flawed understanding of our political parties.
Take a look at the legislation he has rejected. Why would he reject competition in Unis which the heads of these Unis support? Why would he object to cutting welfare in the budget? He is pretending to be a socialist when he is not, I agree.
 
Take a look at the legislation he has rejected. Why would he reject competition in Unis which the heads of these Unis support? Why would he object to cutting welfare in the budget? He is pretending to be a socialist when he is not, I agree.

PUP is doing what every other minor party and independent holding the balance of power has done since the arrival of the two party system - oppose government legislation in order to win concessions to appease their support base. To claim that it shows he is 'socialist' though is misleading as PUP policies are very much right of centre.
 
For the likes of Lebbo, anything centre of extreme, loony tunes right is socialist left.

Hey Lebbo73 , tell us the one about 99.9% of climate scientists, the Pope, the Queen on England and most governments in the world have joined in a communist conspiracy to take over the world and that only a few people, like you and Lord Monkton, know the real truth.

I never get sick of that one.
 
Take a look at the legislation he has rejected. Why would he reject competition in Unis which the heads of these Unis support? Why would he object to cutting welfare in the budget? He is pretending to be a socialist when he is not, I agree.

You have a serious misunderstanding of the history of rural politics.

Bob Katter is a trenchant advocate of bush socialism. It might surprise you to know that among his mixed bag of heroes includes Red "Ted' Theodore who advocated pump-priming of spending during the Depression and Ben Chifley who advocated state led infrastructure projects like the Snowy Mountain Scheme which saw economic growth in the hinterland. He's an infrastructure and growth man against the sclerotic free market policies of the Liberal Party. On social issues he's much more attuned to conservatism but he's very much pragmatic and open to suggestions and political suasion.

The same thing can be said of many political animals in the bush. Without a form of bush socialism everything becomes more expensive in the bush. The internet, medical care, education, transport. They know which way social policy blows in the electorate and don't bother particularly hard with canvassing that type of question in their electorates - that's for the suburbs. Instead they look to rural economic projects, subsidies and protection.
 
You have a serious misunderstanding of the history of rural politics.

Bob Katter is a trenchant advocate of bush socialism. It might surprise you to know that among his mixed bag of heroes includes Red "Ted' Theodore who advocated pump-priming of spending during the Depression and Ben Chifley who advocated state led infrastructure projects like the Snowy Mountain Scheme which saw economic growth in the hinterland. He's an infrastructure and growth man against the sclerotic free market policies of the Liberal Party. On social issues he's much more attuned to conservatism but he's very much pragmatic and open to suggestions and political suasion.

The same thing can be said of many political animals in the bush. Without a form of bush socialism everything becomes more expensive in the bush. The internet, medical care, education, transport. They know which way social policy blows in the electorate and don't bother particularly hard with canvassing that type of question in their electorates - that's for the suburbs. Instead they look to rural economic projects, subsidies and protection.

You've put that way too succinctly and littered it with facts. That doesn't belong here.
 

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Gillard was just as bad as Abbott and you don't have to open your eyes to see that. :rolleyes:
Gillard could actually get some stuff through the Senate despite leading a minority government and having to deal with a maniac undermining her from within. Abbott has none of these handicaps and yet has been terrible. He still got two years though (probably o_O)
 
I'd say 'One Term Tony' is looking increasingly unlikely.
...because he ain't going to make it that far.

I knew he would be incompetent, that bit was obvious. I seriously didn't expect it to unravel this fast though.
 
The fallout from the Queensland election will spook the coalition further.

I reckon the only thing currently keeping Tones in a job is what got him the job in the first place - a complete lack of genuine contenders.

The next few weeks should be interesting as the wannabe PM's position themselves and further marginalise the most incompetent PM in the nation's history.
 
The fallout from the Queensland election will spook the coalition further.

I reckon the only thing currently keeping Tones in a job is what got him the job in the first place - a complete lack of genuine contenders.

The next few weeks should be interesting as the wannabe PM's position themselves and further marginalise the most incompetent PM in the nation's history.

The Queensland and NSW elections are the only thing keeping Abbott safe. They'll wait until both state LNP governments are re-elected.

After that it's unlikely he will remain in the job longer than a few months. Still predicting one more big Murdoch push, or a big Labor "scandal", before they chop him just to see if it makes a difference.
 
Someone needs to have a word in his shell like that social media users are also voters and that he dismisses their views as "electronic graffiti" at his own peril.
Most on social media are outside his demographic.

He needs the talk back listener (tradie stuck in Sydney traffic) on his side.
 

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