Oppo Camp Discussion on other club's trade/draft decisions
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Talk about highjacked!
On yr bike Blue boy!
We've got to get back to debating the worth of KPD's & whether Reece will get to # 21
On yr bike Blue boy!
We've got to get back to debating the worth of KPD's & whether Reece will get to # 21
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Billings will be a midfielder in a few years when his body develops a bit more.
Billings, Petracca, Dunstan and Acres will be a better combination than anything involving Cripps.
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Billings IS going to become a midfielder/half forward. He's starting up in a pocket or on the half forward flank atm because in his first year lacked endurance and the big body and wasn;t developed enough to spend extended periods of times in there, point is Billings won't always be a forward flanker... Petracca, Dunstan, Billings and Acres looks a better combination in the midfield...
gillo94
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Ok sorry just wanted opinion if would do draft again if given chance. I got my answer thanks
Because of Kane Lucas, Matthew Watson, Josh Bootsma etc.
gillo94
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Watson is ok, think speed ATM only thing letting him down but I expect him play more
Watson is a spud. Hasn't done anything in 4 years.
gillo94
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His ok can play forward too, got Jaksch should be good backup
Don't forget Liam Jones.
gillo94
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I think Liam will be good next year as 3rd forward, Mick has confidence in him
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Watson played one good game up forward. He is mediocre football player
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Did you not read my post: rob Wiley
gillo94
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Cripps was nicknamed 'a The Extractor' think only thing ATM that has over Dunstan, his clearance work
Sigh, I'm so offended by the notion that this bloke reckons Cripps is comparable to our 3 draftees, I don't have words.
I guess you could argue that Acres has shown about as much as Cripps, but at least he's got some elite athletic traits, not to mention a huge size.
But to compare Cripps to Dunstan (who I did notice was pretty sluggish in terms of covering the ground this past year - which should be now cleared up) and the x-factor machine Billings...
Like actually... No words fellas. No words.
I guess you could argue that Acres has shown about as much as Cripps, but at least he's got some elite athletic traits, not to mention a huge size.
But to compare Cripps to Dunstan (who I did notice was pretty sluggish in terms of covering the ground this past year - which should be now cleared up) and the x-factor machine Billings...
Like actually... No words fellas. No words.
gillo94
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What about in the long term?
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Dunstan still has Cripps covered long term
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Still Dunstan. I can't see cripps getting quicker and he has massive issues developing any kind of endurance
My mail during the 2013 season was that initially we rated Dunstan extremely highly and earlier in the season many on Bigfooty who follow the juniors also had him well and truly in top 5 calculations, due to his consistently high level performances, but that as the season wore on he started to drop down in many ratings because it became known that clubs had some real concerns about his body-shape and running ability. Had it not been for those concerns, he could have well and truly gone in the top dozen and maybe even as high as top 5 or 6, as he had been extremely well and consistently performed for at least the previous two years and also of course had extremely good leadership potential as well. So it was apparently just those body shape and running ability concerns that resulted in his not going much higher. Even so, we still apparently thought he was going to be gone in the top 13 or so on the day of the draft and that you guys in fact were going to take him, and not Cripps.
As I was talking about earlier though, it has turned out that his wheat intolerance could have been the cause of the excess bulk/weight and in him not having as much energy as he otherwise could have and not as big a tank and running ability as he could have, so now there is every chance that he becomes the "top 6 pick" that many initially thought he would be. And all of that of course doesn't even take into account how well he performed at senior AFL level last year, which already put him as a top 10 or so talent from his draft class. There isn't really that much else that he needs to fix up about his game from what I've seen.
I would have been OK with us drafting Cripps last year if we rated him that highly, as I was impressed with what I saw of him in the guts at the champs that year, but I haven't seen him play since, so I'm not one to answer any of those sort of questions on him.
Mate, I don't want to be harsh. But I don't think Cripps has as high a ceiling as you think. Handy extractor, maybe in the Brad Sewell vein is best case scenario for Cripps IMO.
The thing about our kids, and maybe a bit of bias talking here, their ceilings just looking at physical traits are pretty damn high. Billings will make it as a genuine midfielder in 2-3 years time, he can kick better on his right (non-preferred) than most of our list I would think, not to mention has shown the ability to take a couple of sneaky grabs at u18 level. Dunstan will be a high volume inside midfielder, is quicker than Cripps, and should be able to cover ground far better after the discovery of the wheat-intolerance, which pushed his weight up to 86kgs, when it appears 82kg or so is better for his running. Acres could have the highest ceiling of them all, looks a bit like Nat Fyfe when he first started up, has plenty of work to do, but in reality could be anything.
Cripps doesn't appear to have the physical traits to become a damaging mid. I can see him potentially being a good ball winner, but that is probably it.
And out of the 4 you highlighted before in terms of long-term potential.
Aish, Dunstan with Lew Taylor and Cripps behind by a fair margin.
gillo94
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I def saw Dunstan as a top draftee last season. From my reviews still hard make a call on the better mid as if you go on Blues page Cripps rated highly
Hence why came here get 2nd opinion
Short term, long term medium term.
gillo94
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Bit harsh both had endurance issues. Dunstan with his wheat intolerance and Cripps with running capacity but 2nd year hope both improve on it and get more senior game time
Well you got it. Cripps may well one day make a good seniors player, but to try and compare him to Dunstan or Billings (or even Acres) is foolhardy.
What response did you expect on the Saints forum.
Lost me when you said you would have Cripps over Billings who, as Rahaul said, would go No.1 (Heeney not an option).
